Hammy Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Do you change anything with the tactic when you play away games? Axertyre, I have been using the tactic without any amendments for both home and away games. During they away games the opposition do get more shots on goal than when I'm at home but I am still getting victories. Not sure if Tyler is planning a version for Away days but in my opinion it isn't required. I'll post once i've had a few more away games to see how it's going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobus Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tobus,I've been using the same squad as i used with V4 and V5 The strikers i have are - Vagner love, Hulk, Alexis Sanchez, Ryan Babel, Fernando Torres and Robbie Fowler I don't play Fowler - not really sure why i bought him! Torres has been injured since I moved to V6 but he's on his way back and I'm hoping for big things Excluding Fowler they all have pace, acceleration and dribbling of over 16 as well as over 14 for off the ball. They also have over 15 for either flair or creativity and either first touch or technique. Thanks, think I need to re-arrange my strikers, I has the one with no barrow with heading strength etc...since they both have barrows I'm assuming that they are 'Torres-like' rather than a big strong forward like Heskey for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Just lost 3-1 to Arsenal at home using Spurs with V6 tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reverdy Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 i didnt try previous versions of this tactic but i tried v6 on my leeds united with my first season on championship , after i promoted i ve bought some good players anyway , ive played 6 games this game with v6 and so far it seems that you dont have to dominate game , you can score goals with unexpected possesions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Did you win all your games even away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stejo Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Looks bloody brilliant so far. The defending in particular is awesome while the attack is creative and always looks dangerous. I've just played 4 games with it so far, using Liverpool in a mid-season 1 save I got for testing tactics. It's 4 consecutive games of various quality opponents home and away. Bolton (H) 2:0 LC Man U (H) 2:0 PRM PSV (A) 2:0 CL Arsenal (A) 2:1 PRM That's the best results I've ever had on this sequence of games, and it should be noted I didn't even have Torres cause he got injured in the first game. Maybe I got lucky but the quality of football produced didn't seem like luck, nor have I ever been that lucky before in this particular sequence of games ever. I'll start a new game with it and get some proper players for it and see how it behaves in the long run. Thumbs up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammy Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Thanks, think I need to re-arrange my strikers, I has the one with no barrow with heading strength etc...since they both have barrows I'm assuming that they are 'Torres-like' rather than a big strong forward like Heskey for example. Here are the stats for some of my team since using V6 Sanchez 7 starts (1 sub) - 1 goal Babel 5(2) - 1 Vagner Love 8(1) - 2 Hulk 4(3) - 1 Torres 1(0) - 1 Gerrard 10(0) - 6 Carragher 9(0) - 3 Zhirkov 10(0) - 3 Ribery 6(0) - 4 Sanchez and Babel have played games at right/left midfield during this period and Ribery's 4 goals were all in one game. I thought my strikers had been scoring more and was quite surprised when I looked at the form. I still think their returns are better than before but when i'm getting the goals from the other areas of the team it keeps me happy. I'm hoping Torres will settle in after a few games and start getting the goals following injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch3723 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 V6 - with Leicester in the Championship First 5 games using the new tactic - W1, D2, L2 and I'm slipping out of the play-offs - have returned to V4 and my own tactics and its getting back to winning ways. Problems I've noticed with V6: 1)team is struggling with the long ball - a few goals and lots of chances being created for the opposition by long balls over the top? 2) my little nippy strikers are getting to much long ball in the air which they're losing every time. Are taller strikers/target men needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 If I need tall strikers for V6, looks like I have to sell Defoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobus Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'm confused by what im looking for in these new strikers, anyone want to enlighten me ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 About training.. are both strikers Forwards now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarinet Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 If I need tall strikers for V6, looks like I have to sell Defoe. I'm confused by what im looking for in these new strikers, anyone want to enlighten me ? About training.. are both strikers Forwards now? Tyler said:"Both ST's can be AMC, FC or ST. Both ST's need: pace and/or acc, flair/creativity, first touch/technique, off the ball and dribbling." For v6 test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammy Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Heres the results from my Liverpool game Man City - Away - Won 3-2 Wigan - Home - Won 3-0 West Ham - Home - Won 1-0 (FA Cup) Arsenal - Away - Won 2-0 Bayern Munich - Away - Lost 1-0 (Champions league) West Ham - Home - Won 2-0 Stoke - Home - Won 6-0 (FA Cup) Bayern Munich - Home - Won 5-1 (Champions League) Fulham - Home - Won 3-0 Sunderland - Away - Won 1-0 Middlesbrough - Away - Won 2-1 Arsenal - Away - Drew 2-2 (Champions League) Portsmouth - Home - Won 4-1 Arsenal - Home - Lost 3-2 (Champions League) Chelsea - Neutral - Won 1-0 (FA Cup) Aston Villa - Away - Won 3-1 Man Utd - Home - Won 3-1 Overall Pl 17, Won 14, Drew 1, Lost 2, Scored 44, Conceded 13 In the league Pl 10, Won 10, Scored 26, Conceded 6 My only draws and losses have come in the Champions League. I signed quite a few players in January therfore when it came to Champions league I had a few of my first 11 ineligible and suffered with suspensions. The loss at home to arsenal was partly down to Carragher getting sent off on 63 minutes and we lost after extra time. The tactic is working fantastically well for me both home and away and has taken me from 5th to just 2 points behind Chelsea with 5 games to go. Tyler - I'm not sure what further tweaks there will be between the test version and the final version 6 but in my opinion it is perfect as it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobus Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ok thanks. Lost 4 games in a row so far...I'm putting it down to the squad getting used to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Crespo11 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ok, Tyler u said that this tactic will solve the striker problem, but my strikers never scores. I create lots of chances, but cant score. Got Torres, Fleck, Vagner, Lavezzi with Torres as my top marksman wit 4 goals in 13 app. 2 goals in ligacup, 2 in CL + 0 in 7 PL matches. What to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc-red-kid Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 This tactic is the best tactic i have used, i am using v4 at home but think you need to make an away tactic. This is a superb tactic. Cant wait for v6 please make an away tactic please. Thanks and well done:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drevil1969 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 CONTROVERSIAL!! First and fulmost i dont want to upset anyone, especially TylerBode who seems one of the few people you can really talk to on here. I just did an experiement with Southampton and something siginificant struck me when using his tactic, you all must rememeber the corner cheat? well this has it im sure, my centre half is scoring for fun and while my target man is getting a few too, a striker who previoiusly couldnt score for love nor money i should add. The point im making i guess is that i think Tyler has stumbled on the corner tactic again, thats why this tactic works so well and you can be dominated at times yet still have that something extra. Good tactic by the way Hope i havent upset anyone saying this, my top scorer at southampton is my centre half mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Original Post I believe?Do I assume, from reading your post that the V6 ST's need Finishing/heading, strength, pace/accel, flair/creativity, first touch/technique, off the ball and dribbling? Finishing and heading are not needed for ST's. They would be a bonus though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 About training.. are both strikers Forwards now? Yes both are Forwards. I'll post the new FC training in OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobus Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ah thanks, I'll look though my strikers Its getting better now, now unbeaten in 4 games lol My center back isn't scoring from headers though :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammy Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler - You are a god!!!!!!! Started using V6 with my Liverpool team sitting in 5th place. Won 15 straight league games with the tactic to take the title. Also won the FA cup on penalties after a 3-3 draw with Arsenal I'm getting geared up for next season with the Champion's League in my sites. The tactic is the best I've ever seen - you are a genius :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlugovid Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Hy Tyler The link for yor new V6 of the first post doesn´t work. The one in the post 1079 it´s fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler - You are a god!!!!!!!Started using V6 with my Liverpool team sitting in 5th place. Won 15 straight league games with the tactic to take the title. Also won the FA cup on penalties after a 3-3 draw with Arsenal I'm getting geared up for next season with the Champion's League in my sites. The tactic is the best I've ever seen - you are a genius :thup: Wow, that's amazing Hammy. Thanks for all the encouragement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlugovid Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 What kind of players do we need for the MC position?? Deffensive ones?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpassuncax Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler, Just did a test with v4 vs v6. The same game, at home slightly favorite, reloaded several times. v4 - 2:0 I dominated; 2:0 I was dominated; 3-1 I was dominated. v6 - 2-1 50/50 game; 3:1 I was dominated; 3-0 I dominated. Conclusion... erm, i love and hate your tactics... both Haha, I'm going to start a save with v6 to run a full season but, above all and comparing to v4 my first impression is that it has the main attribute for me. Consistency in results at least Now on a more serious tone, I usually play half table lower league teams, I mean, my team can't play fast and wide. If i tweak tempo/width will affect the overall strategy behind the tactics? I hope you know what I mean. And thanks again for your effort and dedication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler,Just did a test with v4 vs v6. The same game, at home slightly favorite, reloaded several times. v4 - 2:0 I dominated; 2:0 I was dominated; 3-1 I was dominated. v6 - 2-1 50/50 game; 3:1 I was dominated; 3-0 I dominated. Conclusion... erm, i love and hate your tactics... both Haha, I'm going to start a save with v6 to run a full season but, above all and comparing to v4 my first impression is that it has the main attribute for me. Consistency in results at least Now on a more serious tone, I usually play half table lower league teams, I mean, my team can't play fast and wide. If i tweak tempo/width will affect the overall strategy behind the tactics? I hope you know what I mean. And thanks again for your effort and dedication Thanks for that feedback mate, interesting. I think the tactic is very finely tuned therefore changing it could affect the overall effectiveness of the tactic. However, I encourage you to try this and make the pitch as small as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswichjon2 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Thanks for posting a 'test' version of the tactic Tyler'. I've played 7 pre-season games and 4 competive games with my Ipswich team in season 4 so far, results are below: Botsani (a) 0-8 Ipswich U18 (h) 7-0 St Neots (h) 12-0 Anderlecht (h) 5-1 Notts Forest (a) 0-3 Bangkok Bank (a) 0-7 BEC (a) 0-7 Everton (a) 0-3 Chelsea (a) 0-0 Real Madrid (super cup) (n) 1-3 lots of shots & possession Madrid scored from 25 yards 3 times - is there two much space for quality opposition centre or attacking midfielders? Liverpool (h) 3-1 (hit the woodwork 3 times as well!) I've noticed a few things about the new tactic: (1) The strikers (Keirrison & Milevskyi) are definitely much more involved and link the play well but I've noticed a few 'speculative' shots from a long way out from both players and the right striker has got on the score sheet more often (is setting the players to 'swap' positions a way around this?). (2) I've played weaker opposition pre-season and this allowed the team to gel, early on the players give the ball away much more but as the games went on possession stats improved and the passing is slick and very pleasing to watch. (3) I've got a really quick centre back pairing with Onuoha & Micah Richards there when fit and I've not looked like conceding except from crosses (I think the full backs might need a slight tweak in mentality) and long shots, this might not be the case with a slow back 4 of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Thanks for posting a 'test' version of the tactic Tyler'. I've played 7 pre-season games and 4 competive games with my Ipswich team in season 4 so far, results are below:Botsani (a) 0-8 Ipswich U18 (h) 7-0 St Neots (h) 12-0 Anderlecht (h) 5-1 Notts Forest (a) 0-3 Bangkok Bank (a) 0-7 BEC (a) 0-7 Everton (a) 0-3 Chelsea (a) 0-0 Real Madrid (super cup) (n) 1-3 lots of shots & possession Madrid scored from 25 yards 3 times - is there two much space for quality opposition centre or attacking midfielders? Liverpool (h) 3-1 (hit the woodwork 3 times as well!) I've noticed a few things about the new tactic: (1) The strikers (Keirrison & Milevskyi) are definitely much more involved and link the play well but I've noticed a few 'speculative' shots from a long way out from both players and the right striker has got on the score sheet more often (is setting the players to 'swap' positions a way around this?). (2) I've played weaker opposition pre-season and this allowed the team to gel, early on the players give the ball away much more but as the games went on possession stats improved and the passing is slick and very pleasing to watch. (3) I've got a really quick centre back pairing with Onuoha & Micah Richards there when fit and I've not looked like conceding except from crosses (I think the full backs might need a slight tweak in mentality) and long shots, this might not be the case with a slow back 4 of course. Well spotted mate. You will find the finished V6 deals with some of these problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjs1981 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 so then tyler how long until we get the finished v6???? eagerly awaiting it here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler gave me the v6 to test for him last nite - just played first game away to Werder Bremen in the champs league and won very comfortably 3-1 - so initial impressions look very good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Only tested 3 games using Spurs LOST 3-1 Arsenal at home Won 3-1 AS Nancy at home Won 3-1 Liverpool at home Gonna test more especially on away games, Can I ask Tyler do you really use only 1 tactic with your Hull team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron-J Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 i think tyler will be the legend manager in football manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 OK people the finished version of 'Piranha' V6 is ready, but first I need a filesharing site that counts downloads. Filefront servers are down. Anybody know any? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 OK people the finished version of 'Piranha' V6 is ready, but first I need a filesharing site that counts downloads. Filefront servers are down. Anybody know any? here you go:thup: http://www.zshare.net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler - is the finished version of v6 any different from the one u sent me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Tyler - is the finished version of v6 any different from the one u sent me? It has a few tweaks yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ill get the new one when its ready to download and replace then bud! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBleond Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 ok, so where is the finished version, uploaded??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 V6/PIRANHA FINAL VERSION: http://www.zshare.net/download/581903471b1688b5/# Same instructions as before. Changes: MC need long shots. Both ST's can be AMC, FC or ST. Both ST's need: pace and/or acc, flair/creativity, first touch/technique, off the ball and dribbling. Finishing/heading not required. V6 Forward Training: http://www.zshare.net/download/58190914f6e87b8e/ A big THANKYOU to the people who tested and gave feedback. I hope you all enjoy V6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBleond Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardomac Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Let me just say... You're a just a god amongst us mortals.lol Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Just swapped the test with the final Tyler - will let u know how it gets on with my spurs team! Cheers again bud! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Costly Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I used v5 a lot and found it suited my Birmingham team more than v4. I hope v6 can take me from being mid table to potential European contenders! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I was wondering Tyler, would you use v6 as your main tactic? and if things aren't going well what tactic would you change to v4?, v5? etc. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsl Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 The download link to V6 doesn't work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 I was wondering Tyler, would you use v6 as your main tactic? and if things aren't going well what tactic would you change to v4?, v5? etc.Thanks Yes, I'd probably stick with V6 and change to V4 in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibra8 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I can´t download it. I tried with IE8 chrome and firefox none works:confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Is page just not loading? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Costly Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Damn first game lost 1-4 to Arsenal, hopefully things will pick up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Guys who can't download tactic, go to the OP and download it from there, i tried that and it worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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