carreiraana@hotmail.com Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The tactic is function the patch 9.2.0??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolton Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The tactic is function the patch 9.2.0??? nah Im using 9.3.0 patch and it work find for my considered All-Star Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 It may work for 9.2.0, but probably not as well as for 9.3.0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carreiraana@hotmail.com Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The tactic is for the patch 9.3.0??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Ehm yes...That's why I put '9.3.0' in the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carreiraana@hotmail.com Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 and is the clear tactic to bayern? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolton Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Troels Jensen I dunno why I got 4 strikers plus Babel who can also play as a striker. My two main strikers are Aguero and Torres but at one time these 2 are scoring but now they dont and I drop one of them to let Bojan play and he too score but after awhile he didnt which I turn to Guilherme and the same thing happen. Now all my strikers doesnt score. Goals produced are from my wing backs and wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 I'm sorry, I don't know what's causing the problem. All I know is that the second half of the season seems a bit harder than the first so far. I've played 20 matches in the league now - 18 won, two drawn. Two goals against, can't remember how many I've scored right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klassens Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 The wingbacks will surely score a bunch of goals as the two wingbacks are set to challenge GK and attack near post respectively A bit weird, why not centre backs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREW Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I've started a new season with this tactic as Liverpool. The first game was against galatasaray at home which we won 1 nil but created only that 1 chance. Then the first preier league game was everton away which was a ni nil draw and we created nothing. Should this tactic take a while to start working or do you NEED a world class world XI squad such as the one posted in the first post to get it to work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 @Klassens: I'm counting on people being able to tweak the personal instructions without my help when it comes to corner kicks etc. The reason my left wingback was set to challenge the goalie was that he was the tallest and best header at the moment. @CREW: The tactic is intended for World Class teams, but I haven't tried teams outside of Spain, so I don't know how it'll work in e.g. England. As for the time it takes for the team to adapt to the tactic, I'm sure it'll take 10-15 games. I imagine a lot of friendlies pre season will do wonders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhoy Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Do you think this tactic would be too attacking for a Lower league team? I am testing really attacking tactics for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Not sure, to be honest. The biggest problem as I see it could be the free roles - the wings and the 'CMA' all have free roles. It might work for lower quality teams if you tick that off. Try tinkering a bit with it yourself - the tactic may look very attacking, but really it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 A small update with only a few games left of the season: I didn't include all the goalscorers - just those with 9+ goals. I must admit I was nervous when I had to face Man. U., but as you can see it went quite well in the first leg (the most recent match played in the list): Three matches lost so far - away to Betis, away to Getafe and away to Rangers (I seriously didn't expect that, though). This tactic seems to be struggling a bit if the opposition is extremely defensive minded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9inarowhoops Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Going to try it mate,do you still use OI,playing as man u i am sure teams will play defenceive against me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Very impressive so far looking at your results and will test it out at some point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaffy_duck Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 fantastic tactic and eventually puts a nail in the coffin of the "rule of one" which is now officially dead. Your defensive unit must play together, with your midfield being the link to your attacking unit which must play together. First 4 games of EPL first season 9.3 won 1 lost 3, (then install tactic) next 4 games pld 4 won 4. 1 goal conceded 8 scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 @9inarowhoops Yeah, I'm still using OI all the time. I've made a small change though but I'm not sure it matters - if there are wingers on each side of an AMC, I don't change the default tight marking OI. @Zaffy duck Glad to hear you're having success - what team are you playing with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Just to give you an update Troels, I instructed my Juventus players to use this tactic in pre season (i'm in 2014). I won Serie A last year but decided to change tactics. Obviously personel have changed and I've got some very good players in my team. Results so far (and apart from putting best corner takers/free kickers takers etc. on, I haven't changed anything else) Super Cup - Roma 3-1 W Champions League - Real Madrid 0-0, Dinpro 3-0 W Serie A - Brescia 3-0 W, Fiorentina 1-0 W, Palermo 3-0 W, Genoa 3-0 W, Lazio 2-0 W, Inter 2-2 D, Udinese 4-3 W Overall record is P10 W8 D2 L0 Goals Scored 24 (average 2.4 per game) Goals Conceded 6 (0.6 per game) Review Noticeable differences to me on this tactic are: i) the amount of times the wingers feature in the game, I seem to score or have a lot of chances through headers after good wing play ii) Opponents have a lot of shots from outside the box which tend to graze the bar or go over iii) Luck seems to be on my side with this tactic, i.e. 90th minute own goal to beat Fiorentina, luck plays a very important part in FM i feel Now, after what Troels said about playing with a world class team, after ten games I would say "Yes, this tactic seems to fit this description." However, I was 2-0 up against Inter and having gone half a dozen games without conceding, to condede two goals was disappointing. I have just followed this up with a 4-3 victory at Udinese but this was Udinese's first loss of the season so they are no mugs. Now for the other side of it. I am also the manager of my beloved Denmark and I have decided to play exactly the same way to see what happens (even though I think I have another tactic in my database which is more suited). Denmark are not a world class team (although they are ranked at 15 in the world atm on the game). First three results World Cup Qualifying Belgium @ home - Lost 1-0. They scored direct from a corner. This has never happened to me as yet so I wonder if it was anything to do with the tactic. Montenegro away - Drew 1-1. Bendtner opened scoring after keeper tried to dribble round him, empty net finish. They equalised from 18 yards away, shot from left to right along the ground. Hungary @ home - Drew 1-1. Larson (L) scored from a free kick but for some reason Poulsen decided to hack down one of their players from behind in the second half and they equalised. So what have I learnt from this? This tactic probably isn't suited to Denmark, I may persist with it for 3 more games. I have only conceded one goal from open play though and I am missing good players through injury (4 got injured against Montenegro so I was missing my left back, centre mid, AMR and Bendtner. Carlos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liversome Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Quality tactic, played with a liverpool world class side and had many clearcut chances which is very good as with other tactics I still do not create clear cut chances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 Thanks for the feedback Carlos - as a Dane, I'm sorry the tactic didn't work well for Denmark . Besides that I'm glad it seems to be working for your Juve team. I'm expecting to finish the season during this weekend, and I'll post the final results asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Cheers Troels... would you suggest i knock the tactic on the head for Denmark and perhaps go to the one which was successful for me with Juve last year? Laurito and Palaoschi are banging them in for me yet Rooney (who cost me ALOT of money) can't seem to score consistently since joining me last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 Well, I imagine national teams have to adapt to new tactics as well, and 3 matches may not be enough. If I were you, I'd use an already working tactic for Denmark in the qualifiers, and when it's friendly "season" try using this tactic and see if they adapt to it. If they don't it's probably not meant to be Btw - has Rooney learnt Italian? I find that my strikers struggle a bit, if they don't speak the language - or at least it seems that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I'll have to check Rooney, haven't got the game loaded atm but could you honestly say he is learnt English never mind Italian!? Apart from a few swear words that is, his English is probably worse than yours! He seems to have more joy playing on the right hand side of midfield. I'm struggling for a world class right back in my game atm, Nelson just isn't up to the job but I am not willing to fork out over £30million for a right back. Carlos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Well, I imagine national teams have to adapt to new tactics as well, and 3 matches may not be enough. If I were you, I'd use an already working tactic for Denmark in the qualifiers, and when it's friendly "season" try using this tactic and see if they adapt to it. If they don't it's probably not meant to be Btw - has Rooney learnt Italian? I find that my strikers struggle a bit, if they don't speak the language - or at least it seems that way. I play with Man City and bought 3 Russians, striker Pogrebnyak is struggling, could be because of that. Anyway, after shopping spree with Well, tried your tactic with Liverpool save, 3-3 away with Tottenham in first match I tried it. And I didn't change player instructions, just run it, so not bad result. But I seemed somewhat vulnerable to shots just outside the box and generally defense didn't have that good game. Also, if you have good AMC like Gerrard, it's bit difficult to find use for him in formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 As for Gerrard, can't you just use him as the free role midfielder? Most of opposition's chances will usually be long shots - they rarely score on those in my game though. Again, your team needs to adapt to the new tactic, which is why I think it's best to switch to it pre season, so it'll work after you're done with the friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 Finally finished the season with some quite impressive results (although the CL final against Juventus was a bit too exciting as my team went behind fairly quickly. Thankfully Paloschi managed to bag two goals to win the match): It'll be interesting to see if the next season will be just as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Cheers for posting this Troels, so (and forgive me for not scrolling up) what would you suggest regarding making changes etc to the team or player instructions if needs be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 You have to define 'needs', before I can give a decent answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Update time If you rememeber the first 10 games went P10 W8 D2 L0 Goals 24 Conceded 6 Next 10 games Won 6 Drawn 2 Lost 2 2 games lost were 1-0 away at Parma (struggling) and Roma 2 games drawn were Napoli at home 0-0 and Cluj away 2-2 6 games won against Livorno, Reggina, Catania, Sampdoria, Cluj and Dinamo Total goals scored 15 Total goals against 5 Not really too impressive now the tactic seems and actually at Cluj in the CL I was 2-0 down with 13 minutes left and had to rely on 94th minute equaliser. I have actually just played another four games, drawing 2-2 at home to Milan and then lost 3-0 at Real Madrid so I've decided to go back to another tactic for a few games as I'm lying third atm in the league... Rooney has not learnt any Italian Troels and has 9 goals in 44 appearances... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Troels the link for the tactic doesnt seem to work. Can you put it on another site ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 @mikcheck The link works fine here. @CarlosEsDios I'm sorry your not getting the results I was hoping for. I'll play another half season with my Real Madrid team to see if it can reproduce the good results in the previous season, and then I'll try starting a new game with Inter or Liverpool, not sure which yet, to see if the tactic will work there, or if it's just a one hit wonder for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Would it help if you knew my team at all? GK Buffon RB: Nelson or Lichtsteiner LB: Accardi or Chiellini CB: Pique CB: Criscito AML: Alex or Piatti AMR: Candeias MC: Cigarini and Marchisio ST: Laurito, Rooney, Paloschi I've got other players as well i.e. Diogo who cost the previous manager £20million. I've got Guillherme (AMC/FC) who cost £28million as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well, neither Marchisio nor Cigarini are able to fulfill a free role at all, according to genie scout. Alex and Piatti have 13 and 15 respectively and Candeias 10, so they should do better, though not perfect. I'm not sure it'll work, but try removing the free roles instructions from your players and see what happens. Montolivo and Sneijder are both very good in free roles in the central midfield. For wingers, Marquinhos and Buonanotte are highly recommended, if you're considering spending a bit of money. Laurito, in my game at least, have serious problems when it comes to important matches. I have no idea if the above will work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosEsDios Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I've just brought an AML in by the name of Ochirosii so I'll see how he is on the left wing... Bought Sahko from PSG as well to boost the defence At the Half Way Stage (all played 19 games) PTS 1. Juventus 43 2. Inter 41 3. Napoli 40 4. AC Milan 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg69 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I've just brought an AML in by the name of Ochirosii so I'll see how he is on the left wing...Bought Sahko from PSG as well to boost the defence At the Half Way Stage (all played 19 games) PTS 1. Juventus 43 2. Inter 41 3. Napoli 40 4. AC Milan 40 can i ask how to download this tactic, i click on the link, but auto tac doesnt work and neither dos winrar?? I have donwloaded other tactics this way, i would love to try this one with rangers? please help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
data.hypercomplex Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Prolly not gonna work with a Belgian team I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 @Gdawg69 Just download the file and put it in your tactics folder. Then start the game and import the tactic. No need to use winrar as the file is not rar'ed. @data.hypercomplex It might - try playing without the free roles and see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
data.hypercomplex Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Well I played it for 2 games already. First one I won with 2-0 Second one 1-1 Changed my tactic again after that because I lost all of my best strikers Oh btw OI = Opponent Instructions I guess. Because I never change them before a match. If it's so can you make a screenshot of that plz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 From first post: I use the following OI's: Striker/lone AMC: tight marking, always close down, show on weaker foot, hard tackling. DM/MRLC/AMRL©: always close down, show on weaker foot, hard tackling. DRL/WBRL: always close down, show on weaker foot 'lone AMC' is when there are no AMR or AML next to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg69 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Troels. The thing is it is not getting that far, it jsut ain't downloading for me, an error message comes up when i try, does anyone have any idea what the pronblem could be, i would love to try this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I've been using a new tactic every season that I've downloaded from these forums. I decided to try your tactic out with Liverpool in the game's 3rd season the other day. It's a very stable and consistent tactic. Indeed, my form was better than any of the other popular tactics that I've tried. It doesn't result in as many goals scored as some of the other tactics, but you still score while conceding less at the other end. I won every competition going that season - the EPL, FA Cup, UEFA cup ('Pool were struggling before I took over), and League Cup. I'm Udinese now and I'm going to use a different tactic this season, but I definitely recommend this tactic to other users. Thanks for making a great tactic Troels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Thanks for the positive feedback, Proteus. @GDawg69 I'll see if I can find another mirror for the file Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg69 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Thanks very much dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Alternate mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?doz5mgnyawz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg69 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Alternate mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?doz5mgnyawz It still comes up this error message: C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\TFJ-4-2-2-2 (R. Madrid, Dec 2011)-1.tac could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred. Try saving to disc first and then opening the file. The same happenes when i try and download knaps tactic, but none otehrs as of yet, i know it is not a problem your end, but i ahve no idea what im missing or what im doing wrong, i'm jsut following the link, pressing download now and it says this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Jensen Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 What are you trying to open the file with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg69 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I use mozilla to open the link and its my default downloader, it doesnt get as far as opening it because it doesnt download unforunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
data.hypercomplex Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Just save the file on your desktop and put it into the tactics folder ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
medo24 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I've just downloaded your tactic and played two games so far with Man Utd. In the first one i beat Chelsea 3-0 in the league cup semi-final first leg and the second one i beat West Ham away in the league 2-0. So it's from me, so far anyway. Before this I was struggling to score and all my strikers seemed out of form but they seem to have been given a lease of life so thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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