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1 minute ago, bigbeezer said:
Becuase i am talking about goalscorers....
When i get round to avg ratings this will be looked at, although you could argue there should be more? and some of the Celtic ones there shouldnt be there - Abada for example.
Out of interest,
who do you think should be in the top 5 instead of players from the reigning champions, on the verge of a treble and lost 1 game in 18 months or so?
So... lets see, if there was some sort of list kept every season...
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Just now, bigbeezer said:
I test 1 season 5 differert times to avoid knee jerk reactions.
Moreloss outscored Kyogo in over half, as you can see below.
That do ye?
No mention of too many Celtic players in top 5 though... why, is that?
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10 minutes ago, bigbeezer said:
I think Kyogo could be doing with having his Tech increased as well as his finshing, He has great tech as you will see in any you tube videos of his goals and he hardly hits 20 goals in any tests, so maybe increase that part of his game as well?
cheers
Do you believe Kyogo is far to good for Celtic? Do you believe he is by far the best Japanese Striker in the World?
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No, you have provided attribute numbers, without taking into account what they do when put altogether. Not to mention not taking into consideration real life performances. Kyogo, isn't devastating because of his raw finishing ability, but because of his sublime movement, and the tactics Celtic employ to get the very best out of him. If anything that's where you you should be questioning, have we got this part of his game right?
As for proof. I ran a 2x 1 season test and Kyogo topped the goal scoring charts in both, with in 1 no player getting within 15 goals of him in the league.
What in game tests have you ran?
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8 hours ago, DavidH said:
Furuhashi 12 14 16 12 14 11
O'Riley 12 15 12 14 12 11
Morelos 14 14 16 5 8 12
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In my opinion this data shows it cannot be correct for Furuhashi's Finishing to be lower than Morelos given his more than double rate of conversation and O'Rileys finishing attributes are significantly higher than his Conversation rate would suggest.
Hi. Thank you for post, but your conclusion is incorrect. Kyogo finishing ability is higher than Morelos' in game.
Have you run tests, by playing as both Rangers and Celtic, and as well as letting AI do it's thing.
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13 minutes ago, c0nn0r said:
We'll start with McGregor then. Not listed as a natural DMC only listed as 16/20 despite playing there for his last 78 club games. Meanwhile Kyogo is listed as a natural (18/20) left winger and accomplished (15/20) on the right. Kyogo has played one game at left wing in his last 68 club games with the rest being at striker. Another thing on Kyogo while I'm here, I do not understand how he doesn't have the breaks offside trap ppm, he spends most of the game making runs in behind most of the time unnoticed by whoever is on the ball but perhaps his 18 off the ball is compensation for that.
We have tbf already said we'd look at moving CalMac to 18, for AI purposes but 16 still makes him the best DMC in the league, by quite a margin.
The AML/R is not Left Winger/Right Winger in the true sense. As you will notice a true winger will have the ML/R filled in, Kyogo does not. What it represents is he's an attacker who can play right across the line rather than just a CF
QuoteGreg Taylor 11 first touch and anticipation could be improved at expense of his heading. Decisions could also use a bump by 1 or 2 based on his choice of pass this season specifically those placed between full backs and centre backs to get wingers (usually Maeda) in behind defences.
Fair points tbf.
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Just now, celtic_fc said:
Well those numbers are something else that needs fixing in FM...
Because he played 14 league games this season FFS. It's a winter update
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9 minutes ago, celtic_fc said:
He played 9 games in Belgium.
No he didn't. But thanks for playing.
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5 minutes ago, celtic_fc said:
Okay that was hard, not.
James Jeggo, 120 CA, 125 PA
Tomoki Iwata 119 CA 130 PA
Are you honestly arguing a guy a who is just off the back of winning J-League player of the year should have less CA than a 30 year old James effing Jeggo?
Good to know you watched a lot of Pro-League football as well as J-League.
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2 minutes ago, celtic_fc said:
Fair enough they don't play exactly the same position but do you really think those CA and PA numbers I posted above are anywhere close to reality? If you insist I'll go find a suitable DMC in the league to compare to Iwata.
But we don't just compare CA numbers as it means f-all.
But tbh, No idea, he's only played 90 minutes of Scottish football - most of which against a Championship Side already losing 4-0.
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Just now, celtic_fc said:
Levitt is 117 CA, 140 PA.
Iwata is 119 CA, 131 PA.
What on earth are you talking about?
DMC - Levitt 104
DMC - Iwata - 120
Now... sit down and learn what you're looking at.
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7 minutes ago, celtic_fc said:
You don't need to watch a lot of J-League to know Ange hasn't went back to Japan to sign a CB who is no better (and in FM's case is actually worse) than the likes of Deas, Findlay, Kerr or Halkett. And then terminated the loan of a player who is now doing well in Germany.
As for the Higden comment, why are you comparing a striker to that of a defensive mid? That's like comparing a brussel sprout to a steak.....
16 points better CA for same position is not a similar CA. It's a whole level above. Now learn what you're looking at when discussing CA and attributes when comparing players please. A good start would be for the love of God reading @Giro's two posts on player ratings.
Then we can maybe discuss it.
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15 minutes ago, celtic_fc said:
Well let's use Iwata as an example instead. Why on earth does Levitt have a similar CA to that of a player has who has just won J-League player of the year?
It's honestly laughable how bad Iwata and Kobayashi are considering one has just came off a season being the best player in a far better league than Scotland
Josh Campbell probably deserved a decent boost for Hibs as well.
I'm so glad you watched a lot of the J-League - and you put so much stock into POY awards, as I've said forever, in their primes Michael Higdon was a far superior striker to Leigh Griffiths (I haven't really).
As for Campbell, he a very solid, if unspectacular player, who is right in the middle of the pack of decent Scottish Premiership players
2 minutes ago, StevehFC said:Just comparing CA stats with all players in the league.
Don't, please. If you wanna question it, come with substance we can look at, but comparing two players, from diffetent positions is a no.
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9 minutes ago, StevehFC said:
-Dylan Levitt having better CA than Shankland and Nisbet is laughable.
Levitt currently has a CA of 0 compared to Nisbet and Shankland for striker. Are you saying Nisbet and Shankland should be better rated at midfield than him? Or are you comparing a brussel sprout with a steak?
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11 hours ago, c0nn0r said:
I find it difficult to believe that after over a year those discussions did not lead to anyone mentioning that Callum McGregor has played DMC for over a year comfortably, Kyogo has played one game on the left wing and players like Greg Taylor and Kevin Nisbet are pretty significantly underrated. I can only assume that some changes were held back until the final Winter patch but if this is what we're left with until the next game then it's pretty disappointing. Another issue is managers preferred formations and play style, they seriously need looked at.
Which McGregor is in game... in fact he's the best in the league.
You do understand what having an AML rating for a striker means? don't you?, Don't you?. If not, that's may be an issue.
Go, on I will entertain you on a historcally 1 in 3 "pretty significantly underrated" Kevin Nisbet. Where do you think the joint best striker in the Premiership outside the Old Firm (5th natural in league, and 8th overall) be "improved". Or how about Greg Taylor who is looking at the overall package (I'd recommend you do that btw) is the 2nd best in the league.
Floor is yours my friend.
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47 minutes ago, bigbeezer said:
Whats the best way to try to make a point when comparing one player v another?
do you need to provide videos of both? Stats are good but also can be misleading. Just trying to find out how you work.
Cheers
We watch the players, every researcher we have watches a lot of football, but especially "their team". We also have year long discussions on players, teams, managers ... you name it we probably discuss it.
The problem you find though people compare CA, without looking behind the numbers, knowing the weightings each individual Attribute rates. Not to pick on you (really not) but when you think of technical player, you've mentioned "technique attribute" but none of the others that make what you'd class important for a technical player (e.g First Touch, Passing etc.).
Then you have all the hidden attributes that doesn't effect the raw CA number but effects the real in game CA performance...
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18 minutes ago, bigbeezer said:
Id say Kent has abilty, there is no doubt of that. He can be and has been a match winner. I would however question his mentality and he is also very inconsistent. But the boy has ability and maybe managed differently somehwere else he could thirve?
Cant really compare them attribute wise either,
Kent has the stepovers ect [often leading to nothing] and can go past a man,
This - and this is shown perfectly by a hidden attribute.
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3 minutes ago, joe5p said:
Not sure if this falls under data as it is to do with Kit Colour appearance. When playing as Celtic away to Partick, the team wore the black and green away kit in the 3D engine. However, in the tactics overview and post match highlight screens, it shows as a white/grey kit with green trim. Even if meant to be the new third kit, there is no green trim.
It should show as the black kit.
Apologies if better posted elsewhere.
Not a data issue, but I am guessing it's a visual thing because of the black background.
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10 hours ago, aberdeengoose said:
Hope Tottenham and Liverpool were watching tonight 😀
13 minutes ago, M26HFC said:I've seen his CA and PA in game and I'd say it's absolutely bang on for an international player.
Stop being so bitter wee man.
Cut out the bickering, we as a team in the Scottish Research are happy with where Porto is as a player.
6 hours ago, markmeatsix91 said:It shows Aberdeen have a reserve team along with the U18s but they just have the U18s team
Although they have decided not to take part in the Reserve League, it was either create a Reserve side (like many Premiership sides have) or let the game create an Under 21's side after game start to take part in the SPFL Trust Trophy. As you can imagine, the Reserve Side makes more sense.
18 hours ago, jmfc0618 said:Motherwell scouting team update
New Scouts - Jay Bartram & Will Glavin (source Motherwell FC linkedin page & twitter accounts)
I believe Martyn Corrigan & Scott Macleod are no longer working at the club.
Cheers mate. Can confirm we're making changes.
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9 hours ago, Craig_R.U.F.C said:
Sean Goss missing Germany as a nationality & can speak German too.
Although born in Germany he was born at a BMH, specifically RAF Wegberg. We also have already used all Nationality slots available to us (even though German wouldn't be one anyway). Will add the language.
4 hours ago, Conor67 said:Missing players from Celtic B/u18.
Colby Donovan
Aidan Borland
Marcus Gill
Tyrece McDonnell
Too young for FM23
45 minutes ago, Hibs1875 said:Bojang isn’t a hibs player that football manager suggests, he should be on loan from Rainbow fc. Joe Newell appears to be one of the worst hibs players despite being a Key player irl.
RE: Newell - yeah, he's not even close to being one of the worst.
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Not a bug, as mentioned in the Data Forum, as Maeda is still contracted to his Japanese club he is unable to be in the game.
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