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That's awesome! might have to give this a go again given that my short run this year got interrupted by life

select them and assign to the scouting pool I think it comes under 'national team'

2022/23 Season Update A pretty dire season all told, we were in free fall for most of the 2nd half of the season. A 1-0 win due to a penalty against Corticella in the last weeks of the season made sure of us finishing above them - not that it was particuarly deserved. So we avoid last place by the skin of our teeth, and relegation only by the fact that this databse has no relegation from Serie D. Not being relegated feels like a bit of a cop-out, but as I play on a laptop and Eccelenza level is just too many leagues for me - I will have to accept my 'divine intervention'. I could alternatively restart - but given we're predicted dead last @ 250-1, that would likely not stave off 'ficitonal' relegation anyway - so my current plan is to continue with this save in its current form. I don't really see the point of saying any more, as I expect to see a large turnover of players this transfer window & hopefully nest season is much different. Also, if I can't get 6 points from the first 5 games next season - I'm sacked - so we will have to see if I survive. The national team, somewhat unsurprisngly, is doing even worse. from here on in I expect to put in minimum effort for a few years - as the players just are'nt good enough.

yeah I was thinking about changing that too but alas worried it would mess up playability in the long term - would need to test properly

Based nation of Victor is San Marino ... so most regens will have some form of Sammarinese nationality

yeah you can sign whoever you want

depends what setup you're looking for, but I think most of them are somewhere on this thread / we have copies of them I've attached my fix for Victor & SM Academy incorrect nationality changes (make sure it loads last) - for anyone that wants it (would need a new game) @ChiccO could you put it in the front post? also the Victor in serie D too? as I play on a laptop so eccelenza adding 10K players is too much. - make the challenge more accesible. x san marino player nationality fixes.fmf

@Ronaldo Beckham i see youve updated your youth recruitment a lot - is that beneficial or not? - as i thoughtit would mean youd get more players from further afield who arent eligible for the National team?

on second thought, not too sure how / what to do to nationality rules in the editor, given the complicated nature of the system and the game being more basic; https://www.sanmarinosite.com/en/infos/citizenship/ tldr; I dont beleive the in-game nationality rules are completely correct, but leaving them as they are is at least reasonable and helps ensure playability in the long-term. I also did a year-long test, and by May 2023 none of the players that should'nt be able to have chaged their nationality to Sammarinese, so changing their "date of moving to based nation" for players that play in the Italian league for clubs with San Marino as their based nation seems to fix it. Might need to do this for the San Marino Academy, too - although I didn't notice this happening to any of their players yet.

I think I may have found the problem with Victor players switching nationality at the start of the game. In the editor, their based nation is Italy, despite the club being based in San Marino. I think when the game starts their based nation changes to San Marino as they play for the club but their "date when moved to based nation" (i beleive, havent checked ingame editor) does not change. As this is (usually) when they were born, it would put them over the San Marino citizenship requirements. therefore, setting the "date when moved to based nation" to *roughly* when they joined the club (Victor) in the editor should fix the problem also in the editor the nationality rules (as per english Wikipedia - is this right?) are incorrect. it is 30 years & no dual so ill fix that too. I've made a file but want to test a little more this evening/tomorrow.

may well join at some point! getting harder to keep myself away

Don't have time to keep the thread updated much these days, so if yous want to start a new one for fm23 (or use this one) that's cool If I don't do that, maybe I'll squeeze put some time to play! I reckon just write Acheivements in each of our posts rather than the front of the thread because updating takes too long (bar the really high level ones)

After a few years in an awkward situation, the San Marino challenge is making a comeback! Following the demise of the old San Marino Calcio in 2019 and the awkwardness of editing/removing Cattolica, a new team was formed in July this year. It is called Associazione Sportiva Dilettantistica Victor San Marino or A.S.D.V. San Marino, for short. The club will be entering into the Eccellenza (5th tier) of Italian football. The club will play at the Stadio di Acquaviva, which is also home to SS Virtus and the San Marino Academy Women’s team – not at the national stadium and home of the old SM calcio, surprisingly. from corriereromagna.it This challenge entails winning the World Cup with the San Marino National Team, while using A.S.D.V. San Marino and/or a team in the San Marino domestic league to help develop players from the nation. There will be intermediate goals on the route to this, too Things you will need to download · You will need an Italian leagues database that goes to at least level 5, and you will need a database for the San Marino domestic league. We are all going to use, and reccomend, the excellent databases by @claassen . However, if you have already started / want to use others (provided they are reasonable) that's fine too. C Classen San Marino; https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2651624557 Classen Italy; https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2652582982 Optional There is a pack by @Handyfernandy with custom home and away kits in, find here; https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=540801&key=32c93a321df53982489a2febeadf1eef or, you could use my pack (made for FM21 orginally, but should work) which has different home, away and third kit, badges and a stadium pic for those that use skins that use these, here; san marino.rar Or, you could use this pack by @HHUK, which has the "official" 2D and 3D kits of A.S.D.V. ; https://www.mediafire.com/file/792jb70yee0w1nm/SanMarino.rar/file · Strongly recommend logo and kitpacks (I’m using TCM and SS packs – but cant find any kits for other teams in tier 5), you might also want to use a regen facepack (i'm going to use Zealand's) Of course, if you are using any other methods/databases/versions of FM you are more than welcome to post here! - the old threads for previous versions will remain. Rules and Instructions To have the option to manage the San Marino National Team you MUST select the "Advanced" option on the database size screen; and then go to nations, San Marino and make sure "load all players of nationality" is ticked or you'll be unable to take control of the National Team. This must be done when selecting leagues at the start of the save. You have the choice of managing the National Team from the start of the save, or not. I strongly recommend adding players to playable teams. Don't use the in-game editor or genie scout. No changes in the pre-game editor other than those needed to make the challenge possible. EXCEPTION; Real name changes are allowed, I hate playing without them Profile and tactics are up to you, but no save scumming. Extra points for funny names. You can approach the rise to Serie A as you see fit. To make this tough challenge harder, you are quite welcome to go for a Youth only challenge, sign Sammarinese players only - or sign whoever you want. At some point, the club will need to focus on developing Sammarinese talent from the youth system to feed the National Team. Developing the youth system is tough early in the save, as the club's finances aren't great. Please post updates in this thread - tag me with a screenshot as evidence and I'll update achievements. A few targets on the way are in the posts below, hopefully to keep things interesting as the World Cup is some distance away at the start of the save! Likewise, tag me if you are bowing out, and I'll make a note of your final status - getting the club to Serie A would still be a massive achievement after all! I recommend you make a list of achievements in a table or something at the bottom of your posts, too, in case I am unable to update the list. Be friendly and good luck! p.s. The legacy achievements people made in older versions of FM remain in @duesouth's earlier thread https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/496311-fm20-fm19-the-great-san-marino-challenge/ p.p.s. yes, I did use the old post as a template for this one