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56 minutes ago, Fosse said:

How many games have you played?

What issues are you having specifically?

 

I played this system for 4 matches until I lost confidence in it, bought a LM and play a 4-4-2 now. The 4 games were WBA (2-1), Everton (0-1), Blackburn (FA Cup, 1-0), and Stoke (0-3). They are two main problems. There is no penetration to danger their goal and after we lose the ball there is so much space on the wings. When the opponents full back overlaps there are 2-1 situations nearly every time. Nearly every goal we conceded was after open crosses. I saw someone rushing with FC United Of Manchester through the leagues with such a tactic without a second Winger. But I don't have an idea how to cover the wings better in such a system.

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I finally gave up Sunderland, the morale was down because Yaya Toure wanted to play more, half of the team thought I was right to tell him I can't do anything for him, the other half was his opinion. Finally Swansea gave me a chance to better my image.

They want me to play a passing style so this approach fits perfectly. But the thing is they have one Winger that is good, but like 4 strikers on first team level. I set up a 4-1-3-2 but I'm not sure if this really works. Our first game was a 2-1 win against WBA but the winner game in minute 92 so nothing I'm too happy with. 

That's my system. I'm not sure how the midfield 3 work together if they are too narrow to play a good possession style. Also I worry about the Full Backs. I feel that you get killed by crosses into the back of the Centre Backs when the Wings are too open. It would be nice if someone could work out some things I can change to make the tactic better.

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Now I have an idea why nothing works with this team. What a style I can play with them? I mean they can literally nothing. Counter Attacking won't work because of the bad decision making, just pumping the ball into the box and hope for something can't work because there are no tall and powerful players, possession/attacking won't work because they are all bad^^, 

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That's the stats for our game at WBA and the tactics. A 2-2 looks not that bad but the goals were a header after a corner and a Penalty. Since I play with the possession approach I feel there was not one single goal created through the approach. I'm not happy with the Poacher in the tactic, but I think a False Nine is too deep when you have an AM behind it (?). Lozano has an attack duty because he is now the outstanding player in our squad and I want him to create something on his own sometimes. The main problem is we concede very dumb goals I think. Against City Lichtsteiner crossed for times into the back of our line and Agüero and Griezmann had easy goals. Nearly the same the goals against WBA. 

Before I created the 4-2-3-1 I played my favorite 4-1-2-2-1. But with it there were the batterings against City, United, Arsenal, Leicester etc. Looked like that:

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Also I think it's pretty typical for this board that when someone criticises the work of some of the "holy experts" other moderators come and tell you that u don't understand the game, the thread and everything in the world.

The fact is, with his approach he tells me, "hey, you can play a possession approach with a mid-table squad. AND WIN THE LEAGUE". And when you try out to do exactly this, to play a possession approach it's pretty frustrating to get hammered every game. 

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I didn't copy Cleons System. But I play with a possession approach. And this post tells me that it works with mediocre teams, but I get smashed every matchday.

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Sorry, but after a while I think the championship wasn't won with this tactic. I try a similar approach with Sunderland, 2nd season bought players that should work in a possession game... Results? 3:0 battering against United in Community Shield, 0:4 at City, 0:2 without any chance against Leicester, 1:5 at Anfield etc. They just pass the ball around, don't create chances and the defense allows 25-30 Shots per game. 

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No definitely not. That makes absolutely no sense in my opinion and I never noticed attributes going down after promotion. Also some attributes can't be really adjusted I think. When someone can run 100m in 12 seconds he's fast in every league for example.

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