Brother Ben

Type: Tablet Model: Huawei Matebook E 2017 CPU Model: Intel i5 - 7Y54 CPU Base Frequency: 1.20 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.20 GHz RAM: 4GB RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz GPU: Intel® HD Graphics 615 Graphics Level in 3D: Low Benchmark 1: 02 min 58 Sec Benchmark 2: xx min xx Sec Benchmark 3: xx min xx Sec Benchmark 4: xx min xx Sec Type: Laptop Model: HP ENVY 17 CPU Model: Intel - i7 - 4710MQ CPU Base Frequency: 2.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.50 GHz RAM: 16GB RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz GPU: Nvidia 840m Graphics Level in 3D: Low Benchmark 1: 01 min 43 Sec Benchmark 2: 06 min 01 Sec Benchmark 3: 14 min 29 Sec Benchmark 4: xx min xx Sec

Cheers both, really appreciated. Glad its been helpful.

Loved it but god it was slow

I think as I mentioned earlier you have to just imagine that "somehow" you got the job. The game already acknowledges via in-game media that you are under qualified and up against it so for me that's how i've looked at it up until this point. To be honest though i've come around to the idea of having at least some kind of badge because for those like myself who follow the LLaMa guidelines you tend to self police yourself in terms of job offers and you kind of know what offers are realistic. Realism is a hard thing to gauge though. Check out the epic story of Kevin Cullis at Swansea City https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/remarkable-story-kevin-cullis-most-10860164 I think the only way to put an end to the debate is if I study for real life badges

Love it

That's good to hear, it's been hard going updating it for FM23 but i'm getting there slowly! I just had a quick look to at the managers in the game at Vanarama North/South level and most have Continental badges with a few having National A/B. Only 2 have none at all but both have managerial pedigree which proves your initial assertion. The main issue I have I suppose is that because of the way the game works if you have a continental badge when you start that low you are very likely (unless this has changed in FM23) to get offers from very high up the pyramid which is wholly unrealistic.

It's an interesting question as a lot of leagues have a minimum badge requirement however finding this information is tricky. I have always started with no badges and no qualifications and the narrative I give myself is that I've been employed under the assumption that I will be taking my first badge as soon as I start which in most cases you can definitely do and you will be studying for this badge before you play your first game. We had this very debate on one of the LLM forums a while back and I don't think a consensus was agreed. To be honest I think maybe using the recommended feature but making sure playing experience is set to Sunday league might be the realistic way to go. For England Level 6 VN/S the game sets this as National A. I may look to incorporate this into the LLM guidelines on my site but it would need to be a simple guideline such as use National C or just click recommended as I doubt a comprehensive list of minimum requirements could ever be obtained. edit - I just checked Norway tier 3 and the game recommends Continental B which feels a little high for my tastes and having experimented a little it seems that its based on club reputation but I'm not sure what a more realistic guideline would be. I found this for England- https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/22370/what-does-it-take-to-manage-a-non-league-football-team/ I assume Level 1 is equivalent to FM's National C? The next part is slightly vaguer-

Yeah TATO is my go to skin this year. Lovely and clean. Will giver the Mustermann one a go at some point though

Its hard to definitively say whether it is slower without maybe holidaying a full season on each but even then there are a lot of variables

Second Post fully updated and split into Laptop/Desktop to view scores at a glance. Full results with more in depth computer specs can be viewed on the spreadsheet Big thanks again to all who have tested so far especially those with lower specs as its quite an undertaking in terms of time.

Yeah, think it was @DementedHammer

Yeah, if its just for FM then plough all your money into the best processor you can get. Its where the largest gains are in general

To be honest this is as good a place as any to discuss it. What setup do you currently have? Here's a few ways I use to get the most out of FM with your current hardware - https://www.the9llamas.com/technology/speeding-up-football-manager

Please don't use an icepack! It will cause moisture to form and could kill your laptop

Not yet, no.

@abahmimi Mac installation a) Open Finder b) Click “Go” from the menubar and select “Go to Folder” (alternatively press Shift+CMD+G) c) Copy in the following: ~/Library/Application Support/Sports Interactive/ d) Open the “Football Manager 2022” folder e) Open the “editor data” folder (or create it if it doesn't exist) f) Move the downloaded files into the ”editor data" folder

I've yet to setup my main save for FM23 but when I do I will likely run all leagues from around 10 nations and the top flights from the remaining European leagues. For detail level I tend to just use full detail for the leagues immediately above and below me and i'll also switch it on for any leagues that I loan players to.

Second Post fully updated and split into Laptop/Desktop to view scores at a glance. Full results with more in depth computer specs can be viewed on the spreadsheet

Does view only give you extra players? I've always thought it doesn't

Yeah its always been that way, same with Norway IIRC. Only way to manage in that division is if you get relegated into it and somehow keep your job.

Spreadsheet now fully updated Thanks to all who have tested so far! I'll update the second post with some screenshots ASAP

Post a screenshot of the folders

I've had zero problems on my M1 base Mac Air. So it's not everyone. It will easily do twice the number of leagues you mention. Try the demo. With native support it is now one of the fastest ways to play FM.

You are partially correct. The detail level is the same but it has all players loaded. (I'll amend my original post) Not worth comparing anyway to be honest, the amount of games is entirely different. What I wanted this year was 2 standard benchmarks and then 2 identical ones but with higher detail

Didn't go above 27% ? Not even on the matchday on the Sunday? Getting hot could suggest poor thermals. What kind of temps are you getting whilst the test is running? - HWMonitor will help to find this out By the way your RAM and storage will have no bearing on FM or indeed this test. Try Test 2