Brother Ben

Your time seems about right for that benchmark with your chip. Not sure why your overall issue would be occuring

Just a note to say thanks to all that have tested so far, I will be updating the spreadsheet in the coming week.

Obviously look at Neils post above but a good way to possibly see if there is anything unusual going on is to run the benchmarking tests here -

Type: Laptop Model: Macbook Air CPU Model: M1 CPU Base Frequency: 3.20 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.20 GHz RAM: 8GB RAM Clockspeed: 4266Mhz GPU: M1 7 Core Apple Graphics Level in 3D: High Pre update. Benchmark 1: 01 min 05 Sec Benchmark 2: 04 min 05 Sec Post Update Benchmark 1: 00 min 44 Sec Benchmark 2: 02 min 40 Sec Amazing work guys, the improvement is absolutely huge. Just gutted I didn't get round to the other 2 benchmarks. Kudos to all involved in getting the game to run natively on Apple silicon.

Great news I'll rerun mine ASAP

E for me. Learn from it and move on

Very interesting results there @ganosa Definite improvements there with the M2 If you get a chance do Benchmark 3. Its the one most people want to know about

Clearing your player shortlist can help

First thing to do is to reduce the detail level to minimum

I'm quite conservative these days, used to run everything but I find less is more now. I'm managing in the 6th tier in England so i'm running the following: Uk & Ireland - All Italy, Spain, Germany, France - Top 2 Portugal, Netherlands & Belgium - Top tier Small database. This will change over time though depending how my save turns out. edit - oh yeah i've got a Macbook Air M1 as my daily driver but I do play this save on a few other machines I have (4th & 6th gen intels)

I'd give it a miss, all the reviews I've read suggest its really buggy. Not sure I'd want to be an early adopter on this one tbh

Madness I love it

sounds like an idea for the challenges, sign-ups & experiments forum

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I stopped collecting them after FM17 but good on you Mikal

With enough testing it could but its a lot of work getting it spot on

No doubt someone will make an expansion with the correct league format soon. There was a very comprehensive one for FM22

Yeah just noticed this, that's me rushing to get the file out!

Looks like people do want to compare to last year so it goes a bit like this Benchmark 1 = A Benchmark 2 = New this year Benchmark 3 = B (but with more (all) players loaded) Benchmark 4 = D Like i've mentioned before though the amount of fixtures is different so camparison doesn't really work unfortunately

Great stuff, can't wait to see how the 13th Gen does

Benchmark 3 & 4 now uploaded. @jyny @JamieTC13 @emik @roykela @Scoham @pedromanuelpinto @gothenburg83 @obasa_G @Phil930 @sureup @jcp1417 @priyankitrangibt @yohanes1985 @nikiaboy @JMcK910 @SBII Massive thanks to @Daveincid once again for spending a day holidaying to the test date Opening post updated

Just waiting on Daveincid who kindly offered to take on the mammoth task of holidaying the game up to the test date. I'll message yourself and anyone else who does the tests between now and then

I would say the 13th gen is definitely an upgrade on the 12th based on youtube videos i've seen. The only issue really would be that the newer Intels do produce a lot of heat when compared to the Ryzens so might not be ideal for a small form factor so a decent cooling would be a major consideration. For FM there is no evidence that faster Ram makes any difference at all from what i've seen

Nice to hear mate, what processor have you gone for?

Results Spreadsheet (Contains full details, Cores, Ram speed, Graphics cards etc) OVERVIEW - Steamdeck OVERVIEW - LAPTOP *Benchmark done before Native apple support enabled --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Benchmark done before Native apple support enabled --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OVERVIEW - DESKTOP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Benchmark 1 - Download - 12/09/2023 - 19/09/2023 Benchmark 2 - Download - 12/09/2023 - 19/09/2023 Benchmark 3 - Download - 12/09/2023 - 19/09/2023 Benchmark 4 - Download - 12/09/2023 - 19/09/2023 Save files to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2023\games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello and welcome to the Football Manager 2023 Benchmarking Thread. This is my fourth year running the thread and every time it has gone from strength to strength which is a testament to you guys here at the forums. I have changed things slightly this year as I wanted to avoid comparisons of the timings from previous years. Any comparisons are pretty pointless as the amount of games on any given week can vary wildly from version to version. With that in mind i've taken the opportunity to standardise the tests. Essentially there are 2 setups being tested. Benchmark 1 is a typical setup for most users and the other Benchmark 3 has all leagues loaded. The other two tests are the same as above just with the detail level turned up to test those multi core CPUs. Benchmark 4 is once again a real test for top end PC's so thanks again to @Daveincid for setting it up. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posting Results In order to get the most accurate / consistent result possible, I advise you to restart your PC / Laptop and then close everything that is unnecessary, leaving only FM open. If you run the game on a laptop, don't forget to plug it in the socket before you begin and also for laptop users make sure your system is in high power mode. After you load the save, ensure that auto save interval is disabled, and also set processing to Fast (Less Responsive), both can be found by using the search bar in Preferences. Below is the format in which I advise you to post your results, it's pretty much the same as previous years, don't worry if you aren't sure of the Base/Turbo frequencies of your processor as I can find this out for you as long as you know the CPU Model. To find out the specs of your PC open the spoiler below ------------------------------------------- Quick reminder again this year i'll again be asking for your Graphics level in 3D. What this means is what graphics level you set in the game to get a smooth experience. This should prove invaluable for the guys over at the New PC/Laptop recommendation thread so be sure to fill that in too Below are my results for you to follow as a template: Type: Laptop Model: Macbook Air CPU Model: M1 CPU Base Frequency: 3.20 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.20 GHz RAM: 8GB RAM Clockspeed: 4266Mhz GPU: M1 7 Core Apple Graphics Level in 3D: High Benchmark 1: 01 min 05 Sec Benchmark 2: 04 min 05 Sec Benchmark 3: xx min xx Sec Benchmark 4: xx min xx Sec -------------------------------------------------------------------- We've come really close to getting over 100 benchmarks in each of the last couple of editions so if we can break that barrier that would be awesome! Any queries about the benchmarks feel free to let me know Happy testing folks and massive thanks in advance!