[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

Some truths are boring to hear, but the SI has no reason to listen to the community. What competition do they have? None! The game has been available for almost 2 months and is still with horrible ME. Nobody can give greater satisfaction to the community, the only thing they say is: "Our developers are working, be patient, blablabla". Come on guys, show some respect for your community, we don't deserve it. Give us the product we pay for, please.

[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

11 minutes ago, divij13 said:

Not sure where to post this but I feel Goalkeeper Ratings aren't accurate.

My GK has kept 25 clean sheets and conceded 13 in 35 league games yet only has an Avg rating of 6.93

Shouldn't Clean Sheets be rewarded when rating the GK?

It seems that Goalkeepers get good ratings when they make 6 or more saves in a game but not a very good rating if they make 5 saves and keep a clean sheet.

 

Usually goalkeepers do not have good grades at all. In FM 19 I had a season that Pau Lopez conceded just 13 goals in La Liga and their average rating was less than 7.0.

[Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread]

My impressions:

I played 90 hours until. Most of the time only served to make me angry and frustrated.

I left my best experience in all FM's (Girona in FM 19) to have a terrible experience.

The gameplay is horrible. Two months after launch, Match Engine continues to have the same problems as it did at the beginning and no one can predict improvements. Things in the game are always repetitive and everything seems to depend on your luck (which always fails). Penalty shoot-out is unsuccessful; long balls pursue their defense regardless of the quality of the players and their tactics; Your attacker can have great attributes (17+) and yet will lose dozens of clear chances before scoring; the game seems to laugh at your tactical changes and keeps punishing you no matter what you change.

If I had known this would be so bad I would have continued on FM 19 and would consider buying the game only in March. After all, it seems that this is what we who bought the game at the launch deserve: suffering and anger.

Sorry for my bad english.

[Help with Leicester]

18 hours ago, Urbiscuit18 said:

First off, your team instructions are not bad for what you're trying to achieve. I can see your thought process there. The only change I would make is to remove overlap left as the FB-S will not naturally overlap with the IW. Second off, your lone striker is on Attack duty which means he's going to be isolated considering you have no other attack duties around him. I would change Gouiri to a more supporting role (i.e. DLF-s or PF-s, whatever suits his attributes.) and I would add an attack duty to one of your wingers as well the opposite fullback. It could look something like the screenshot below. I also added an Attack duty from midfield to give some variety to your attack.

 

15 hours ago, JoePalestine said:

The formation is too expansive for me to be a defensive minded one if you are trying to not concede goals. I am Leicester and have a 4-4-2 with the shortest passing and lowest tempo. Using that with the defensive mindset I do quite well. I can’t get my strikers scoring as much as I want and get goals from midfield as a bonus. 

Hello. Thanks for the help.
I have tested your suggestions and there is nothing incoherent with them. But I decided to stop FM 20 until they fix some bugs. I'm really stressed about all this, every change I make has no effect, I keep losing and tying with the same mistakes as usual.

[Not squaring ball into the box for an easy tap in]

7 hours ago, tarzanofmars said:

I didn't think the language was an issue because it is automatically edited out as soon as you post it, didn't think anyone could see it? It instantly appears as ***** as soon as you hit post. Anyway I did not intend to cause an issue over language and I wouldn't want it to be an excuse to ignore the issues with the match engine that have remained broken since day one of the beta release. 

It comes from frustration and disappointment. 

In fact the issue has actually regressed to the state of FM19, I suspect out of the developers not wanting to spend anymore time trying to correct it, which I hope I'm wrong about. I am not motivated to help SI fix a game they made, when I've have already tried and nothing, I repeat, nothing I've shown them, has changed or improved.

I have upload so many PKM's, beginning the week the beta was released, for naught. I've uploaded PKMs on the forum and in PMs to moderators, and have written specific, detailed descriptions of what is wrong. 

Every post and PKM was specifically about attacking players behavior in the box, including squaring it. Heck, I've never even seen a ball squared from the far right or left to another player across the box. Squared means on the floor, I suspect the ME does not know how to cross low. I've never seen a low cross played despite all my tactics instructing them and all my tactic briefings demanding them. Everything goes into the air. Even when on 'whipped crosses' instructions 99.99% of them are Raheem Sterling floaters.

I know the ME can play a whipped ball because you see them on free kicks, so what is the problem getting it to put that on the grass?

The only improvement I've seen is that occasionally you do see players playing long balls through or over the middle, fantastic, the ME now mimics more than pig in the middle passing, but that was not one of my PKM issues, I have constantly wanted to see, for a perfect example, Salah play like Salah when he gets the ball at his feet just outside the box.

(I've been giving advice to newer players who are getting killed by the long through ball and that advice, which is the only thing that works is, only play with your defending set to maximum narrow, ignore your assistant manager, set every formation to narrow defending and it's sorted. Is that the way it's supposed to be? 

The unrealistic decisions of attacking players in and around the box, shooting at impossible angles, especially with the weaker foot, despite 2 or 3 better options, shooting straight at the corner post, no one scoring in a 1v1, left-footed players cutting in at the worst possible angle from the right and never shooting with their strong foot, same on the left side with right footed players, it's all been acknowledged, I've been told and have seen others told, a month ago, that 'we are aware of it and are working on it'. 

I took a 2 week break from the game, during which FM 2020 was updated several times with 'small' 300MB patches and the end result is that all of these problems still exist.

If you go back you will see one of my first posts very happily applauded the fact that wide players smashing the ball into the first defender that gets near them instead of, well anything else, (something we've had to deal with for years now) seemed to be a thing of the past. WB/FBs and W/IF/RMD actually played the ball short or worked to get a cross in. Now it's gone! They've gone back to doing exactly what they did in FM 19! Why? Was that the only way to stop FBs/WBs scoring too much?  I didn't have that problem btw, Trent Arnold actually got a few goals instead of none.

I wasn't joking about not playing as my favorite team anymore, it requires too much suspension of disbelief and loss of immersion to play an entire season and never see Mohammed Salah cut in from the right hand side and shoot with his left foot once. Or I could just use the 4-3-3 where you don't have any wide players and Salah and Mane both sit in the hole behind Firmino and I make Trent and Andy sit in the midfield like Guardiola's backs do. Yay.

I started out motivated to help SI fix their game, but no one listened and all I got was a snarky mod response in PM, 'I'm sorry this is the worst version of FM you've ever played' when I had never said that. I might now however.

I agree with everything you said. I came out of my best save (FM 19 with Girona) for my worst experience on all FM (FM 20 with Leicester). The game is really stressful with the same repetitive mistakes.

[Help with Leicester]

Hello.
I'm currently in season three with Leicester and so far I couldn't fit in a competitive tactic.
My idea for the team is to have the ball without conceding many goals.
I believe my current team is much better and more competent than the initial one, but the tactical part is being a big problem.
I've been suffering a lot from the 1x1 situations and the balls behind the defense. I create many clear chances but I don't score.
It's my last year of contract, if it's not consistent anymore I think I'll get fired.

This is my current tactic:

Thank you for your help!