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Hence this section on the entry of the post I dont want a definitive answer. I never experienced a dramatic slowdown in my long term saves, but I also had never such a big setup and planned to go decades deep. Longest save I played was in FM2014 I think, where I took the great challenge of RB Leipzig from 5th tier to CL I played till mid 2030ies I think and had smth like 70 leagues loaded. Slowdown was noticable but not that much and the loading times were way higher as nowadays. My question is maybe a bit misleading - If someone can tell me with relative confidence, that my loading times will not double in 50 years of playing or this scenario is highly unlikely, then I have my answer

If you want to play the pentagon-challenge then esp. in Africa, CONCACAF and in part in Asia it is imo very beneficial to have much more leagues loaded, because the competition about the international club trophies gets harder. And you start unemployed, with no coaching badges. So if you get your first job in CONCACAF for example, you most definitely will not manage a club in Mexico, USA, Honduras or Canada, which are the most likely to get you relatively fast to glory. Same goes for all other continents. And you still have the option to reduce leagues, although my goal would be not to. It´s not just about the practical side of things, rather its a somewhat irrational love for the game. Sometimes I can get lost for two hours watching stadium-pics of some obscure league (of course with graphic-addons). So the more information in my football-world is available the better for me. And I am more than willing to have longer loading times for that. Still - there is the question if it gets to slow after xx years and if yes, when this will happen. If after 30 years my loading times for a week are 10 min or smth I would completely go with that. Like I mentioned - I dont mind the waiting. Unfortunatly I have no long term experience with such a large setup - hence the question.

Hey folks, maybe a simple question with a not so simple answer. Because I have a rly good PC and esp. processor (and the game got quite a bit faster) I´d thought about a database for a longterm save which truely reflects a global football-world. I will end up with most players loaded and about 250 leagues (mainly in europe though). Because I never done that and have no real comparison - the question above. How much of a slowdown can I exspect like 10, 20, 30 years in? My average week with all the leagues playable (but default detail) is about 5-7 min loading time (depending on whats going on of course) at the start (tested over a three month period). Because I had previous FM-saves where this time was more than double it is totally acceptable for me. And I dont mind the waiting, but at some point it will get tedious I reckon. So any guys or gals of course with experience with such big game-setups? thx in advance! edit: It is mainly to make the pentagon challenge a lot harder and I will have the time for it in the coming years edit 2: The loading time of 5-7 min is with the mentioned setup and not only the default leagues. I tried this setups in previous iterations before, but not for longterm but rather for testing ...

And - if you are goin in with the mindset of selling a player after x appearances or whatever, then your proposition is based on unrealistic behavior. So while you are claiming unrealistic transfer behavior you are also doin it yourself, which makes the whole point senseless. Nobody would do such thing in rl because there are way to much risks involved. So just play that way or game the game - either is fine as is the transfer behavior of the AI for the most part.

Being a father of five children myself, I can see where you coming from. Although I have enough time to play and enjoying FM24 a lot so far (not at all disappointed) I do see the somewhat bloated features as a problem. There are some ways around it for the most part esp. with the staff responsibilities and there is at least one skin, that simplifies the experience (never used it myself). Unfortunatly that is which we have to live with I think, because the direction that SI has taken has proved very beneficial for them. So I think its quite the opposite from what you are saying. Today more people play FM and it is far more beginner-friendly than older titles or CM ever were - and lets be honest - maybe a tad easier too. Unity will not change this direction. Why should it? SI is financially extremly sucessful and the majority of players seem to like their approach. And better graphics are not a bad thing, if the ME is working fine. And FM24 is great in this regard - I would never go back to the old 2D style - there is simply no point in that imo. So in the end - you are old and seem to like the old way of things with FM/CM. And thats completely fine I do agree, that it would be great, If we could have a classic mode, that is catered around the old CM experience for a quick daily fix of being an manager But FM/SI does very well without that, so yeah ....

You clearly didnt see the actual 9m Fee ... That said - I dont rly get the point here. The game does a rly good job at reflecting player market values and the actual transfer behaviour of clubs. And it does this since ages ago with inceasing realism. Personally for me your situation is, albeit not quite, relatively realistic because of the already said reasons. Are the figures you getting to low? Probably - but def not by a wide margin. Exspecting 40m and higher fee´s in Hungary after a few years moderate too good sucess in the CL is the unrealistic thing to me here. And I ignore, for your own sake, that you use the editor to get information you should not have (its your game, but I dont appriciate such things very much). So what the first replie stated is more than true - you want a fee that you know is fair, where the AI cant know this for sure. I concede, that the int. performances (if they are above 7 or maybe 7.1 on avg.) should get you a bit more - lets say 25m - but thats it. And you are already winning (albeit it by cheating) in terms of gaming - so why do you even complain? Edit: And, if I may ad ... you are no Ajax - not even close. Ajax has way higher reputation than your club and would have by miles in rl-life for ten or more years, even if you get more advanced in the CL. The Eredevise is clearly a better league and Ajax has way more competition than you for the season. I assume after that few years your league doesnt have smbd like PSV or Feyenoord or even close to that. So your analogy is completely pointless. And - you took a risk with your 16m signing, which in rl life the outlets in Hungary would gone crazy of. Perform well the next ten years and you get "your realism"!