[Free 8's and Traditional Wingers - A Pep Inspired 4141]

20 minutes ago, Jack722 said:

No worse than any other shape for FM22 

No but seriously, I think the FM22 ME in general is brilliant, and if they fix the high pressing problems then it will be my favourite of any I've played.

It was a struggle to get the 4141 to work at times in FM21 with a top team, for various reasons, but one of them being the difficulties in high pressing. But what I've found in FM22 is that it's much more likely for a CM or winger to join up with the striker when a press is triggered to defend in a 442. It doesn't happen all the time but is fairly common. The 442 is obivously covers the hole pitch more evenly than a 4141, so I currently don't believe youre at so much of a disadvantage anymore.

But I think pressing in general in FM22 is more intelligent. For example a 4411 will at times now look like a 442 in defence, which is more difficult to break down if you're playing compact.

i'm currently on fm21  using a 442 in fact. I find that the press doesn't quite work as well as i want as the wingers aren't agressivee enough

[Free 8's and Traditional Wingers - A Pep Inspired 4141]

How have you found pressing high within this relatively bottom heavy shape?

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Main issue is that hardly any of the teams irl are as defenisve and cautious as si makes them out to be in the tactical creator. 

[Pressing high with 442. Is it possible?]

5 minutes ago, Tsuru said:

I still play FM 21. I did try a pressing 4-4-2 through two different ways: the first one was with a "split block" using individual instructions, the second one used High DL, High LOE and two Pressing Fowards (one on Support, the other on Attack) on Positive mentality. But I was not satisfied with the results, the team attacked badly and was even worst in defence so I did try something else.

However I will be looking into this topic with interest as I believe the 4-4-2 gives us a good defensive shape so it would be nice to see a pressing system working on it.

I'm also playing fm21, so hoping i'm not limited by the game otherwise i may purchase 22 to see if it is possible on that version 

[Pressing high with 442. Is it possible?]

Pep and other managers (like Arteta) have used 442 defensive shape to press high and win the ball up the pitch. In fm it's a bit harder, due to how deep the formation is.

In essence what I want to achieve is

• my two strikers pressing on the opposition cb. This is achieved easily either by oi or more urgent team instructions
• My wingers using the full backs as pressing triggers. 
• my two cm to press the double pivot or when vs a 433 one of my cm to press the single pivot.  

Another issue. Is it possible to get my wingers to press the outside cbs in a back 3/5 and then have my full backs press their wing backs? I think i'm probably asking too much of the game in this regard. 

Also not sure what to use in terms of loe and dl. CUrrently on standard loe and higher defensive line. 

[No newgen staff after 4 seasons]

There are no regen scouts in my save, although there are newgen coaches and other roles. For example these are the list of available scouts with 17 jpa and jca:
 

 

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