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DavidH

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  1. 58 minutes ago, ATW said:

    Hi.  Thank you for post, but your conclusion is incorrect.  Kyogo finishing ability is higher than Morelos' in game.  

    Have you run tests, by playing as both Rangers and Celtic, and as well as letting AI do it's thing.   

    Hi, Thanks for your reply. What evidence do you have to support your claim that Kyogo's finishing attribute is higher than Morelos in the game? I have provided attributes for both players based on the post winter update for the 22/23 season on PS5 console edition.

    I have provided factual evidence to support my claim that their is inconsistency in the awarding of the finishing attribute. Can you explain why a player with a conversion rate of 1.5% has the same finishing ability as a player with  23.8%

    Let me give you one more example to make my point.

    Alexandro Bernabei has a finishing attribute of 12. Technique 13 Anticipation 11 composure 12 concentration 11 decisions 12

    He has played  as a Right Back at Celtic since signing at the start of the 22/23 season. When you look at his statistics for attacking returns there is no data attributed to any of  attacking metrics I have used to provide evidence. In conclusion it is fair comment to suggest his 12 finishing is significantly too high which calls into question the validity of other attribute awards.

    I am happy to engage in debate around the pro's and cons of the evidence I provide, but in future if you are going to claim my conclusions are wrong I will only engage if you provide data to substantiate  your reply's.

  2. Hi

    I recently posted a comment regarding Celtic FC player attributes on another forum and was directed here to expand on my  observations.

    I would like to highlight examples of where it appears player attributes have been over and under valued.

    I would like to first share some data that I think shows the finishing value for Kyogo Furuhashi has been undervalued while the same attribute for Matt O'Riley has been significantly overvalued

    i will be using data from the game as well as statistical data from the FotMob  app for season 22/23 to provide evidence for this. for comparison I am also including data for Alfredo Morelos a striker who also plays in the Scottish Premiership for Rangers

     Lets look firstly at the key Attributes associated with Finishing for all 3 players

                            Finishing  technique anticipation composure concentration decisions

    Furuhashi            12               14                 16                12                 14                    11

    O'Riley                  12               15                 12                14                 12                    11

    Morelos               14                14                 16                 5                   8                     12

    Note that O'Rileys Finishing is the same as Furuhashi and his technique and composure are both higher, then compare this with what the real world data shows us. it is also of interest that Morelos has composure of 5, far too low I would suggest given his higher finishing of 14.

    So what does the real world data tell us.

                            Goals    xG    Goals per 90 min SOT 90 min  Shots per 90 min  SOT % Conversion Rate 

    Furuhashi          20     15.3             1.06                   1.6                       3.3                 48.4            23.8%

    O'Riley                 1       4.4              0.05                    1                         2.6                  37.7             1.5%

    Morelos             13      10.3            0.72                    2                         5.1                  39.7             10.3%

    It is also worth noting that neither Furuhashi or Morelos take penalty kicks for their respective teams.

    In my opinion this data shows it cannot be correct for Furuhashi's Finishing to be lower than Morelos given his more than double rate of conversation  and O'Rileys finishing attributes are significantly higher than his Conversation rate  would suggest.

     

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