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Thanks to us being so generally poor it didn't feel too bad losing that one, nothing like losing to Italy or France. during the game felt various levels of sickness as you do during the actual game but the final whistle almost felt like relief. much less dickheads about last night as well compareed to the other games which made it nicer, in fact i got as far as 100 yards from my front door on the way home before i got the first abuse for daring to wear my england shirt in scotland, maybe even the Scots didn't care much this time round either

delivered by trent alexander arnold leaving everyone fuming as he clearly should be in the kitchen delicately placing the pepperoni

Pizza hut have a big advertising budget this year

I tell you what the most insufferable part of this tournament has been. Liverpool fans going on about Trent as if they could give a toss about England. Go away ffs

We've become serious contenders in tournaments even when we are **** so fair play to Gareth for doing that but now it's time to move on. We are no longer a joke like we were under the golden generation and it's time to see if someone else can make the most of that

Plan has been updated to include Edinburgh's finest shawarma an hour before kick off

That national front page is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen. I thought it was the English media that were supposed to be bad

In a bar full of bitter jocks dressed as jamon

Mainoo's movement is also brilliant. smart and positive. take the Watkins goal for instance, he outstretches his leg but immediately makes a run to get in the thoughts of the other centre back whilst Watkins makes the advanced run. it's jus pure desire aand intelligence. Not having a go at bellingham just beyond him but someone in his position needs to be moving into the hole vacated by Watkins and De Vrij in case that shot doesnt come off or provides a passing option, although i guess that's the first time our striker did that all night so probably unexpected!

can't get over Watkins' face as he steers away, proper raises a smile

VAR is awful

The games dead if these are all bookings. Pathetic

Power trip officiating. Awful decision for foul plus a booking for dissent. Bin them off

Games gone

am i wrong but nobody is expecting us to walk and win the tournament and nobody is turning on the players? this is so far from from entitled fans and media piling on? it's exasperation from completely underwhelming performances and predictable negative tactics when there is a good chance again of getting further into the tournaments. Everyone knows that it wouldn't take too much to change fortunes but the manager is stubborn and the players are getting precious, this must be down to the way that the camp is being handled and treated. the camp seem to be making this an us and them type thing when it's nowhere near that. the mood would change fairly quickly with one decent performance, that's all it would take.

I thought Mainoo did a great job of passing and moving and moving between the lines to find space and receive the ball. better than we've seen from TAA or Gallagher in that position BUT Bellingham can do this naturally also and allows more attacking pace/creativity in the forward line. it's a no brainer

i think you're allowed to simply criticise a performance though aren't you? everyone knows how good bellingham is

heard Rice on the radio say that England fans are expecting us to beat denmark 4 or 5-0 or something like that. Is this what Southgate is telling them in the camp? ignore the media and fan criticism they are expecting too much? there's a big difference to wanting england to thrash a good team and expecting them not to sit deep chasing shadows and playing poorly

Now that was ****ing funny

If Southgates alternative to Trent is Conor Gallagher, who I have no problem with, but clearly is only brought on to try and run around a bit rather than take control of the midfield, then it's completely pointless. The fundamentals of his plan and the system are all wrong as soon as the opposition step it up slightly (usually once we have opened up the game by scoring). The team don't press properly they do half arsed chasing shadows, they get outnumbered and lose the midfield battle. It feels like that arguing who should play in position X is futile while we play so deep and passively. If we are stuck like this because of the limitations of the manager, the squad he picked and his system the only thing we can really do to improve in spite of it is make a couple of personnel changes. If we are stuck with Trippier left back then whoever plays on the left needs to be far more direct to get up alongside Kane (being realistic, advanced of Kane as he drops back to his own 6 yard box) and we also need a midfielder in there to take control of the game whether that be driving the ball forward or passing it and retaining the ball. These things are obvious because even Southgate has seen and made the changes in game albeit with the wrong players because he's an absolute donut. Tl;Dr - play Mainoo or Wharton alongside rice OR bring Jude back and put Foden in as the #10. With either put Gordon/Eze/Bowen out wide. These are the only realistic changes other than Southgate admitting his system is pants

George Saville took a Northern Ireland cap rather than wait it out for a chance he would have got this summer. Muppet

It's made my day

That is truly pathetic. Who asked for a snickometer for handball. What a joke VAR is and I am absolutely howling with laughter if Slovakia win. Madness

There were warnings days ago from the German authorities that the Serbs were targeting this game. Obviously the England fans aren't all angels, but what was expected has happened and it's being dealt with. No dramas just yet

Everyone is absolutely buzzing up here, we are talking blue and white balloon archway pub entrance buzzing. Euros FEVER