kun^^ Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Hello, This is a tactic that i've been playing for a while and i think its rigth time to share it with you community. Tactic This is a simple 4x2x3x1 with an Enganche , he is the heart of the tactic and the right partner for the Poacher up front. This tactic usually give the average beetwen 55% and 70% of possession with a lot of Shots (See images below) The goal is to exploit the middle of the pitch and trying to overload the backline of the opposition. The fullbacks on attack give the with to our offensive movement. Key attributes Give priority to players with more composure and balance overall SK- Areal reach - First Touch - handling- One on ones - passing - reflexes - Positioning - agility- technique (But if you can find that go for someone with at lest 10 first touch and 10 at passing) FB- Accelaration - Pace - crossing - tackling - passing DC- Tackling - antecipation - Concentration- Positioning- Bravery - Jumping Reach BPD- Tackling - passing - Antecipation - Concentration- Composure- Vision- Bravery- Jumping Reach - Balance - Decisions DLP- Passing- First touch - Antecipation - Composure- Vision - Decisions - Balance - Off Ball - Flair BWM- Tackling - Bravery- work rate- team work - positioning- stamina Enganche- Passing - First Touch- Antecipation- Composure - Vision- Decisions - Off Ball - Balance - Flair IF- Pace - Dribling - Passing - Off Ball- Finishing- Flair - Composure P- Finishing - First Touch- Antecipation- Composure- Decisions - Off Ball- Pace - Balance Training and match Prep The only adjustment i do Against top tier teams (Home and Away) and good teams ( Teams that are strong but not top tier, like Napoli, Sevilla, Benfica, RBLeipzieg only away or on elimination match like champion league and Europa League ) Change the width to this NO OPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS Results Start using this tactic after the Burnley game Other Save Download https://m.mediafire.com/view/jhpcqxl54vwcjz3 https://ufile.io/1oso0 https://files.fm/u/9mkumay2#_ https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1402341968 Any questions Let me Know Cheers Edited June 11, 2018 by kun^^ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean3h Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I just did a holiday season as Arsenal (with live data update from sortitoutsi), and had the following results: League 2nd place with 23 wins, 8 draws, 7 losses - 77 points. The losses were ALL away, and were: 0-1 vs Bournemouth, 2-5 vs Man City, 3-4 vs West Ham, 0-1 vs Chelsea, 1-4 vs Tottenham, 0-2 vs Wolves, 1-2 vs Burnley Had the most possession (60.58%) and highest amount of completed passes (24026) by far, with the highest completion percentage (85%) Most goals in the league with 94 3rd highest clean sheets with 15 Player wise, I had Augameyang and Lacazette getting 1st and 3rd in the top scorer charts respectively, with 37 and 23 goals. Lacazette was mainly playing AML by the look of things. Mesut Ozil, the Enganche, had the highest key passes in the league with 76, but only registered 10 assists. Cup competitions League cup winners, Europa League finalists (lost 5-1 to Lyon, but had 2 red cards in the 42nd minute - still controlled possession though), FA cup finalists (lost 2-0 to Chelsea after extra time despite controlling the game and having injuries to key players). Looks like the tactic worked wonders in the cups. After this relatively low effort test, I'm looking forward to starting a proper game with the tactic and seeing where it will take me when I've not just left my AM in charge of everything. Nice work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sean3h said: I just did a holiday season as Arsenal (with live data update from sortitoutsi), and had the following results: League 2nd place with 23 wins, 8 draws, 7 losses - 77 points. The losses were ALL away, and were: 0-1 vs Bournemouth, 2-5 vs Man City, 3-4 vs West Ham, 0-1 vs Chelsea, 1-4 vs Tottenham, 0-2 vs Wolves, 1-2 vs Burnley Had the most possession (60.58%) and highest amount of completed passes (24026) by far, with the highest completion percentage (85%) Most goals in the league with 94 3rd highest clean sheets with 15 Player wise, I had Augameyang and Lacazette getting 1st and 3rd in the top scorer charts respectively, with 37 and 23 goals. Lacazette was mainly playing AML by the look of things. Mesut Ozil, the Enganche, had the highest key passes in the league with 76, but only registered 10 assists. Cup competitions League cup winners, Europa League finalists (lost 5-1 to Lyon, but had 2 red cards in the 42nd minute - still controlled possession though), FA cup finalists (lost 2-0 to Chelsea after extra time despite controlling the game and having injuries to key players). Looks like the tactic worked wonders in the cups. After this relatively low effort test, I'm looking forward to starting a proper game with the tactic and seeing where it will take me when I've not just left my AM in charge of everything. Nice work! Thank's for trying my tactic. Looking foward to see the results, and most of all i hope you enjoy the style of play of this tactic. If you have any questions let me know. Have fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) New save, good results so far. Edit: Unlucky (Who's barça after all? 735 passes completed vs 382) Edited June 10, 2018 by kun^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Some goals of open play: Watch on 480p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 So far so good! Old man banging! 36yo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 How many key passes and assists does your Eganche have? the Bilbao v Madrid goal was great with the Eganche getting the final ball in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, craigd84 said: How many key passes and assists does your Eganche have? the Bilbao v Madrid goal was great with the Eganche getting the final ball in. Usually he have the best key passes of the league / team, rigth now Raul Garcia have been injured and failed a few games (6 on league) and he still have 22 Key passes on 12 games. Overall he got 37 Key passes in 22 matches played. Assists its a bit strange , he don't get that many with the amount of key passes that he provide but maybe if the other players can't score isn't his fault The assists are usually provided by the inside fowards and the full backs. On other hand, he still can score normaly the enganche on this tactic got on a average season 15/20 goals. Hope you're enjoying this tactic have fun 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
priceyd Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Do you think this will work in Amy league? Looking st using it in the championship with derby they have decent side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, priceyd said: Do you think this will work in Amy league? Looking st using it in the championship with derby they have decent side. I think so. If i remember Derby team i think you have a good chance of promotion, I'm testing the tactic on atletico bilbao just to see if it works on fairly good teams (not top tier and tier 2 teams) even with my save on FC United i don't have such a strong team, i think it could be as strong as a Everton side on present, and i managed to break down Man utd TOP side with OP Mourinho on this ME. Just give it a try, and remember to change your width the way i explain on post 1. Hope you enjoy this tactic and have fun Edited June 11, 2018 by kun^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corei Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 What is the key att for Eganche and it's not common role so which players we should choose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, Corei said: What is the key att for Eganche and it's not common role so which players we should choose? i agree, tried with ager aketxe, his average was rating after 20 games was 6,7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Corei said: What is the key att for Eganche and it's not common role so which players we should choose? 20 minutes ago, Cuper said: i agree, tried with ager aketxe, his average was rating after 20 games was 6,7 Key att. Passing Off the ball Anticipation Composure Decisions Vision Balance @Cuper yeah aketxe isn't suited for enganche role, but i played him a few times there because of Raul Garcia injury and he played ok. His better suited for the IF's positions. Edited June 11, 2018 by kun^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 kun please write the most important attributes for all positions it would very helpfull, i'm playing with swansea and i will post results Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Cuper said: kun please write the most important attributes for all positions it would very helpfull, i'm playing with swansea and i will post results Thank you First Post edited with the Key Att for all Positions 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnShepard Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) If I do not have a player for the Enganche role, can I put on another and which would be the best AP or AM? Edited June 12, 2018 by JohnShepard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) On 12/06/2018 at 12:42, JohnShepard said: If I do not have a player for the Enganche role, can I put on another and which would be the best AP or AM? If the player can play AP for sure he still do a decent job on Enganche role, don't go for the overall position rating it can missleading you, if he have god pass , off the ball, decisions , antecipation , composure and balance he will play well on the role But you can try different options as well , the main reason i chose an enganche was because he don't drift to wide, his movement's are all on that pocket on the op defensive midfield, and that is where i want him to be. Edited June 13, 2018 by kun^^ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Well final results of the season, overall a good season where we achive to qualify to Champions league. I think if we haven't had so many injuries we could maybe finished on 2th place , but luck wasn't on our side. On europa league we were eliminated by Arsenal in quarter-finals on a phase where we don't have some key players available. Raul garcia made 53 Key passes on 30 games(Only 1 away from the 1st place) and finish 3rd on the table( With less 5 games) We finish first on ball possession with an average of 60% Overral the tactic work really well on a Club that don't have to many good players and have the restriction on transfers as we Know Edit: We are one of the 2 teams that beat Atletico Madrid, and we did it in style 3-0 at home Red Key players Orange : Rotation players Edited June 12, 2018 by kun^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.Extinction Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 well i try it whit italian squad, no sure what team but try! is OPZ skin u use Kun? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Very fit system for Columbus Crew (MLS) Federico Higuain as enganche works well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, mr.Extinction said: well i try it whit italian squad, no sure what team but try! is OPZ skin u use Kun? Nope, it's Nocturno 18 2 hours ago, LandonDonovan10 said: Very fit system for Columbus Crew (MLS) Federico Higuain as enganche works well Go Columbus! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.Extinction Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Amazing tactics that's all :D :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 14 hours ago, mr.Extinction said: Amazing tactics that's all Nice result's, im glad that you're enjoying the tactic. @craigd84 Look at the stats of Fekir !! he made 5 assists on this game with PSG , his playing insane on the Enganche role tons of assists /Goals and Key passes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
priceyd Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 First game with derby mid way through first season 6-2 win down to 10 men after 20 mins over 1000 passes though in the game very impressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorystewart Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Hi Knap, I have really enjoyed using this tactic except I changed the enganche, only because I did not really have one. Other than personalising a few positions, there was not much to do at all. A really good tactic, thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
campos08 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hi Kun What you go to protect the lead? Few times I went 2 or 3 goals up and then just get destroyed by opposition. Also through balls are being big problem for me. Giving quite a lot ccc away. Is it something to do with quality of my players? I'm playing with Lech Poznan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, campos08 said: Hi Kun What you go to protect the lead? Few times I went 2 or 3 goals up and then just get destroyed by opposition. Also through balls are being big problem for me. Giving quite a lot ccc away. Is it something to do with quality of my players? I'm playing with Lech Poznan Usually if i went 2 or 3 goals, and then the oposition score on back i put my Fullbacks on support and change the width to narrow. On the final minutes, i put the fullbacks on defend duty and remove " prevent short Gk distribution" and set the closing down to "less" and thats it. Only if was playing a elimination match like champions league or Europa league Knock out stages i'll do all the above and then change the mentality to "Defend" . Have fun with Lech Edited June 20, 2018 by kun^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
campos08 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, kun^^ said: Usually if i went 2 or 3 goals, and then the oposition score on back i put my Fullbacks on support and change the width to narrow. On the final minutes, i put the fullbacks on defend duty and remove " prevent short Gk distribution" and set the closing down to "less" and thats it. Only if was playing a elimination match like champions league or Europa league Knock out stages i'll do all the above and then change the mentality to "Defend" . Have fun with Lech I do have fun . Already tried counter mentality with full backs on support in a league and won 4-0. I will follow your advice and see how it will go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshLCFC Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Giving this a go with Schalke, I will let you know how I get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog 83 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I've got to say I'm loving this tactic. It's really solid in away games too. Sometimes I've been changing the mentality to attacking at home and I'm blowing everyone away. This tactic plays some amazing football when you watch the games. Thanks for sharing this, it's a fantastic tactic 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshLCFC Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 First game with Schalke...4-0 down at Zenit half time?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, JoshLCFC said: First game with Schalke...4-0 down at Zenit half time?! Friendly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshLCFC Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, kun^^ said: Friendly? Yes i will persevere and feedback later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, JoshLCFC said: Yes i will persevere and feedback later. Ok, let know then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Hey @kun^^ can you post screen shots of your transfer histories please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, mantorras77 said: Hey @kun^^ can you post screen shots of your transfer histories please? From what save? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, kun^^ said: From what save? Benfica and Bilbao please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, mantorras77 said: Benfica and Bilbao please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Thank you! Love the tactic by the way! Been using it with New England Revlolution of MLS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 any advice for dealing with through balls and balls over the top? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 17 hours ago, mantorras77 said: any advice for dealing with through balls and balls over the top? Faster defender's and good positioning 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 12/06/2018 at 08:06, kun^^ said: If the player can play AP for sure he still do a decent job on Enganche role, don't go for the overall position rating it can missleading you, if he have god pass , off the ball, decisions , antecipation , composure and balance he will play well on the role But you can try different options as well , the main reason i chose an enganche was because he don't drift to wide, his movement's are all on that pocket on the op defensive midfield, and that is where i want him to be. I usually face teams that play with 2 dm's and they make my Engache disappear. Any advice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, mantorras77 said: I usually face teams that play with 2 dm's and they make my Engache disappear. Any advice? Change the width to wider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantorras77 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, kun^^ said: Change the width to wider from balanced all the way to wide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kun^^ Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 hours ago, mantorras77 said: from balanced all the way to wide? Yes. To stretch out the oposition defense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAss88 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 This is exactly the type of tactic I was looking for! Fast-paced football with a lone striker as a goalgetter and a number 10 as the playmaker! First tests seem great, only problem I have is that I already invested in 2 DMC's in my Inter career and don't have an Enganche..thinking about starting over and get Franco Vazquez 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilmalm Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) @kun^^ 10 games into my 4th season with Leeds, I must say that this tac makes the play flourish! Youngsters T.Roberts, Temenuzhkov, Trincão and R.Vieira playing wonderful football. And the trio upfront scoring goals and making assist like never before. Geniusly! Thanks for a superb tactic Edit; What about the offisde trap, feels like the team get a bit exposed from time to time... Any experience of NOT using it? Edited June 28, 2018 by pilmalm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fribbe Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, pilmalm said: @kun^^ 10 games into my 4th season with Leeds, I must say that this tac makes the play flourish! Youngsters T.Roberts, Temenuzhkov, Trincão and R.Vieira playing wonderful football. And the trio upfront scoring goals and making assist like never before. Geniusly! Thanks for a superb tactic Edit; What about the offisde trap, feels like the team get a bit exposed from time to time... Any experience of NOT using it? How did it fare in the PL as an underdog? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilmalm Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fribbe said: How did it fare in the PL as an underdog? This is the first season using the tactic. But from the winter window season before, i started selling and recruiting to make te tactic fit properly after the season. Sold of 1 DM of mine. Signed Lovera for free as AMC. Sold S. Saiz and E. Alioski because the were to old (29 & 28). Still, despite being 3 seasons in the PL, having the lowest salarys in the league all 3 seasons in a row. Almost 18£ mill under Middlesbrough. My first team as follow; D. Raya L. Coyle B. Kamara Batubinsika Chilwell R. Vieira G. Donsah (McKennie in Jan) Trincão (H.Wilson) Lovera T. Roberts K. Temenuzhkov Some great youngsters on the bench; K. Ackermann (soon to be key-player) M. Downing D. Valente W. Fennell (regen, from Leeds academy) W. Mellor (regen, from Leeds academy) Thoose in bold are players i've had since first season. So. To your question It works great right!! Edited June 28, 2018 by pilmalm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fribbe Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, pilmalm said: This is the first season using the tactic. But from the winter window season before, i started selling and recruiting to make te tactic fit properly after the season. Sold of 1 DM of mine. Signed Lovera for free as AMC. Sold S. Saiz and E. Alioski because the were to old (29 & 28). Still, despite being 3 seasons in the PL, having the lowest salarys in the league all 3 seasons in a row. Almost 18 mill £ under Middlesbrough. Please keep us updated on your progress when you're further into the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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