el Chuese Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 With the introduction of the Topklasse next season between the Eerste Divisie and the Hoofdklasse, I was planning on creating the whole Dutch pyramid. I don't think this is already implemented in the new FM. Basically this how it will look like 1st Tier: Eredivise (Premier Division, 18 teams) 2nd Tier: Eerste Divisie (First Division, 18 teams) 2 teams will be relegated this season, I have chosen Fortuna Sittard and Eindhoven as they have the worst records over the last 4 years 3rd Tier: Zaterdag Topklasse and Zondag Topklasse (Saturday Top Class and Sunday Top Class, 16 teams each) This will be the top 5 teams of the Saturday and Sunday Hoofdklasses plus the two relegated teams from the Eerste Divisie. I will put Fortuna Sittard on Saturday, Eindhoven on Sunday 4th Tier: Zaterdag Hoofdklasse A,B,C and Zondag Hoofdklasse A,B,C (Saturday Head Class A,B,C and Sunday Head Class, 14 teams each) Right now I'm working on the lower classes, just to get the data correct so I can start rightaway when the FM10 is released. Anyone who wants to or think they can help just give a shout. Releases Betaversion 1 (up to Eerste Klasse) Betaversion 1 (up to Eerste Klasse) mirror Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 So far concerning league placement this is what I've got EREDIVISIE (18 teams) ADO Den Haag, Ajax, AZ, Feyenoord, FC Groningen, SC Heerenveen, Heracles Almelo, NAC Breda, N.E.C., PSV, RKC Waalwijk, Roda JC, Sparta Rotterdam, FC Twente, FC Utrecht, Vitesse, VVV-Venlo, Willem II EERSTE DIVISIE (18 teams) AGOVV Apeldoorn, FC Den Bosch, SC Cambuur, FC Dordrecht, FC Emmen, Excelsior, Go Ahead Eagles, De Graafschap, HFC Haarlem, Helmond Sport, MVV, FC Omniworld, FC Oss, RBC Roosendaal, Telstar, BV Veendam, FC Volendam, FC Zwolle TOPKLASSE (2x16 teams) ZATERDAG ACV, ARC, Barendrecht, Capelle, Excelsior '31, Flevo Boys, Fortuna Sittard, GVVV, HSV Hoek, IJsselmeervogels, PKC '83, Quick Boys, Rijnsburgse Boys, Sparta Nijkerk, WHC, Zwaluwen'30/Henver ZONDAG Achilles '29, AFC, Alcides, Baronie, JVC Cuijk, Dijkse Boys, FC Eindhoven, SC Feijenoord, Gemert, HBS, FC Hilversum, Hollandia, Lienden, Quick '20, UDI '19/Beter Bed, WKE HOOFDKLASSE (6x14 teams) ZATERDAG A (Western Region) ASWH, DOTO, Huizen, Katwijk, FC Lisse, Noordwijk, RVVH, Scheveningen, SHO, Ter Leede, TOGR, Vitesse Delft, Voorschoten '97, Young Boys ZATERDAG B (Southern Region) Achilles Veen, Bennekom, DOVO, Heerjansdam, Jodan Boys, Kloetinge, Kozakken Boys, LRC, Nivo Sparta, ODIN'59, SDC Putten, Rijsoord, Spakenburg, RKAV Volendam ZATERDAG C (Northeastern Region) CSV Apeldoorn, Be Quick '28, Berkum, DETO, DTS '35, SC Genemuiden, Go Ahead Kampen, Harkemase Boys, HHC, Noordscheschut, Nunspeet, Oranje Nassau, SDV Barneveld, Staphorst ZONDAG A (Western Region) ADO '20, AFC '34, Argon, FC Chabab, Elinkwijk, Haaglandia, JOS/W'graafsmeer, Neptunus, Nieuwenhoorn, NVC, FC Omniworld amateurs, TONEGIDO, VVSB, Westlandia ZONDAG B (Southern Region) Blauw-Geel, DESK, Deurne, EVV, Groene Ster, Meerssen, OJC Rosmalen, OSS/Verbruggen, Papendrecht, Schijndel, UNA, De Valk, Vlissingen, SV Venray ZONDAG C (Northeastern Region) Babberich, Be Quick 1887, FVC, Hoogeveen, HSC '21, SC Joure, Juliana '31, MSC, NEC amateurs, Nieuw Buinen, Rheden, Rohda Raalte, Sneek Wit-Zwart, De Treffers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcxD Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I'll def want this :-) but why sittard? they're 15th atm. I'd pick Omniworld, but that's me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastarhh Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Very nice. Always wanted to play with my club, I hope you're gonna make this database Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 @MarcxD: 2 teams will be relegated this season, I have chosen Fortuna Sittard and Eindhoven as they have the worst records over the last 4 years @Mastarhh: What's your club? For now I've finished redoing all the teams in District Noord (North District of Holland), including promotion/relegation. Not quite sure if everything I figured out for that last bit is possible though, we'll see soon enough. Otherwise I have to think of something new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcxD Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Oh okay, didn't know about the records. It'd be cool to play with AFC , It's 10 min's away from me and I have PE there lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastarhh Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 My club is JVC Cuijk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 My club is JVC Cuijk That's where Dennis Koenders came from lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 There are so many fantastic cult clubs to be managed in the Topklasse: Staphorst, FC Chabab, TONEGIDO and of course Scheveningen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 However, think the number of amateur teams should be higher, as there should be a reasonable pool of teams to feed the Topklasse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 I intend to enter all clubs up to the 6e klasse, so that should be enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcxD Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 but they're not all in the DB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkjan Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 wow, i'm really looking forward to this database! Will surely try this one when its out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkjan Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 also, i would love to play with a Beneliga-Database. Is anyone thinking about creating such a database? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 but they're not all in the DB. That's what the plan, to edit them all in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastarhh Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 That's where Dennis Koenders came from lol Haha idd. I believe he's back here, now he is trainer of the youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr NEC Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 hi any news or progression on this idea im really interested but would also like to know if you would go further down then hoofdklasse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Yes it's still fully running. We're working on it with several people on a Dutch forum. The plan is to go down as far as in real life. Keep an eye on this topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr NEC Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 found it "kaasdrol" will keep an eye on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschprs Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Yes it's still fully running. We're working on it with several people on a Dutch forum. The plan is to go down as far as in real life. Keep an eye on this topic Which forum is that? Can you give me a link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 check your inbox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcxD Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I would like the link aswell, pretty please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr NEC Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 check your inbox too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Great idea - I want in too so that I can bring Longa '30 to glory!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberOps Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Would love to have the link to, i'm very interested in this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figueros Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 me2, I'm very interested! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBernhard Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Never play an edited database, but I'll wait for my 30-year running default FM career until this is out ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 I'm trying to create the subdivisions below the Jupiler League, problem is that one of those plays on Saturday and the other on Sunday, how can I assign those days? Now I have "Topklasse zaterdag" and "Topklasse zondag" underneath "Topklasse", but all I can edit is Topklasse, so either all teams play on Saturday or all teams play on Sunday. There used to be an option in which u could schedule the match day per club but I can't seem to find it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_hdk Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I'm looking forward to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks_23 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Can I please also have the link? Thanks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberOps Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 still waiting for the link and looking foward to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TextBuk Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Can i also have the link please? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Finally made it work past the first season, though not with playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Master Bergkamp Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Finally made it work past the first season, though not with playoffs. I'd love the link as well please. Hup Feyenoord Hup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberOps Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 El Chuese waar vinden we het topic en meer info ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0Que Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I've found an intresting attribute in the XML files (for competition rules) the attribute is <boolean id="next_season" value="false"/> But i haven't figured out yet how to configure these competitions that the last 2 relegated teams will not be replaced. (the jupiler league will have only 18 teams in next season 2010-2011) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 El Chuese waar vinden we het topic en meer info ? Yeah i wondered the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcxD Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'd love the link as well please.Hup Feyenoord Hup. You dare say that when your name is Bergkamp?!:confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Master Bergkamp Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 You dare say that when your name is Bergkamp?!:confused: Being a Feyenoord fan does not prevent from from admiring a true great. We went as far as employing Cruyff to win the championship and you don't get more Ajax then Cruyff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcxD Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Fair enough And Charisteas :') I am and will be following the progress on this btw, it would be awesome to play with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 http://forum.manutd.nl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunAguero Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm trying to create the subdivisions below the Jupiler League, problem is that one of those plays on Saturday and the other on Sunday, how can I assign those days?Now I have "Topklasse zaterdag" and "Topklasse zondag" underneath "Topklasse", but all I can edit is Topklasse, so either all teams play on Saturday or all teams play on Sunday. There used to be an option in which u could schedule the match day per club but I can't seem to find it I thought it was possible to, to give the clubs preferance matchday...but I've checked! I think in this new editor it is not possible. But you can give competition-preferances at the tab 'Competitions', so when you fill there Topklasse (saturday), they have more chance to play in that league, I think! I am not sure, but it's the best alternative. Can you inform me, how far you are at the moment with the project? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunAguero Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I intend to enter all clubs up to the 6e klasse, so that should be enough How far are you at the moment with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower1 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 With the introduction of the Topklasse next season between the Eerste Divisie and the Hoofdklasse, I was planning on creating the whole Dutch pyramid. I don't think this is already implemented in the new FM.Basically this how it will look like 1st Tier: Eredivise (Premier Division, 18 teams) 2nd Tier: Eerste Divisie (First Division, 18 teams) 2 teams will be relegated this season, I have chosen Fortuna Sittard and Eindhoven as they have the worst records over the last 4 years 3rd Tier: Zaterdag Topklasse and Zondag Topklasse (Saturday Top Class and Sunday Top Class, 16 teams each) This will be the top 5 teams of the Saturday and Sunday Hoofdklasses plus the two relegated teams from the Eerste Divisie. I will put Fortuna Sittard on Saturday, Eindhoven on Sunday 4th Tier: Zaterdag Hoofdklasse A,B,C and Zondag Hoofdklasse A,B,C (Saturday Head Class A,B,C and Sunday Head Class, 14 teams each) Right now I'm working on the lower classes, just to get the data correct so I can start rightaway when the FM10 is released. Anyone who wants to or think they can help just give a shout. I have a question to ask. I am not too familiar with the Dutch league system but is the 4th tier the lowest level in Dutch football? There is no 5th tier? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi_FCDB Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 No, I think there are 6 or 7 tiers in the Netherlands at the moment. But most (all?) tiers are split. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 You've got as of next season Level 1: Eredivisie Level 2: Jupiler League Level 3: Topklasse Level 4: Hoofdklasse Level 5: 1e Klasse Level 6: 2e Klasse Level 7: 3e Klasse Level 8: 4e Klasse Level 9: 5e Klasse Level 10: 6e Klasse Starting from the 3rd level it's all split up in Saturday and Sunday leagues. And from the 5th level it's also split up by districts. Basically you have 2 1e Klasses per district (1 Saturday, 1 Sunday), 4 2e Klasses (2&2), 8 3e Klasses (4&4) and from there on it differs. Some districts only have down to 4e Klasse, some go down to 6e Klasse. What I'm doing is a bit off reality, only to assure it's easier to edit promotion/relegation wise. ATM I'm redoing the league placement per district, I'm nearly finished with it. So then the editing can start. I plan on adding the 1e Klasse then do a release, then 2e Klasse and release and so on. Please note that I will NOT add players as of yet. Might be doing this later, but seeing we're talking of adding over 2500 clubs it would be nearly impossible to do it correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunAguero Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Adding players would be a hell of a job! It's logical you don't do that. Everyone who wants to play with 'real' players, do have to do that by themselves! Can you tell me how fare you are at the moment? I am interested in a file include the 3e klasse, as lowest league! It seems logical to me, that they also play the regional cup, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkjan Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I'm going to the most epic derby of the netherlands today (yeah... quizquestion. where will i be today? ) and i would looove to play with one of these teams in FM, cant wait for this database to get out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Chuese Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 I guess IJsselmeervogels - Spakenburg or Katwijk - Quick Boys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giziar Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I guess IJsselmeervogels - Spakenburg or Katwijk - Quick Boys Looking at his location my guess would be the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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