sulle007 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Good evening. 10.3 The tactics work very well, try it now with FC Augsburg, Germany 2.Bundeliga. Had to adjust it a little, but works well. I also dabbled 10.2 from you achieved very good results with it. Sorry for my English, am from Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salamy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Mr Hough what are the stats with ur tottenham team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataggy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 ok i think i officially prefer the beta on wizard. i dominate possesion, shots, ccc and feel more safer with it. i feel a little un easy with the classic like i could actually loose and i dont like its look (which is a personal thing lol). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy666 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Mr.Hough Im blind or u left out preferable attributes for poacher? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batty1 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Mr.Hough Im blind or u left out preferable attributes for poacher? There isn't a poacher, theres a deep lying foward and two advanced fowards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_UEA Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Do we still have both MC's as play maker and target man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Ok - here's my input. I'm using the Wizard style formation (because I don't like classic style ones) and have used it from my 4th game into the season in my 1st season as Liverpool... my only signings were Gamerini & Gago. League table at the end of the season: http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6668/leaguetablew.jpg - as you can see, it scores a massive amount of goals! Torres (playing as the poacher) did well too: http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2905/torresend.jpg I was stupid and sold Maxi Rodriguez in January for 20mill, and had to play n'gog for the rest of the season in the champs league - as Lukaku (Maxi's replacement) was unable to be registered - got knocked out by barcelona. With having a small squad, I played youth & reserves in both domestic cups, so Premiership was my only silverware. Veyr very very good tactic, best for FM10 I've used so far... and by quite a distance. Got 50M to spend carefully now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 mr hough in the last 15 minutes what changes i do?when i won by 1 gol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltjon Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 mr hough in the last 15 minutes what changes i do?when i won by 1 gol ...............pray :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsoz Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 mr hough in the last 15 minutes what changes i do?when i won by 1 gol i havn't used the new 10.3 tactics yet, but when i used ultimo domination v1.1 i would change the stragtey from overload to either control or contain id also do this when playing a far better team. also i use the shouts clear ball to flanks, keep/retain possestion. if its on classic you can change the tempo, increase time wasting and change the passing and also change the full backs runs to never. don't know to much about the tactics but those changes work for most tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddyoh Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I have to say mr hough, its the first time ive tried your tactics and its crazy, scoring for fun but conceding any amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salamy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 if im tottenham using classic tactic and my strikers are: Crouch, Defoe, Dzeko, Pavlyuchenko, Keane................who should i pick as my 3 strikers and in what order? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t77 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I'd say.... RS: Defoe CF: Keane - this player is suppose to drop into the hole to help the build up and spread thru balls, keane should have the attributes for this LF: Dzeko oh yeah, defoe and dzeko are probably self explanatory, good off the ball, good pace and finishing, more mobile strikers than pavy and crouch.The strikers in Mr Hough's formation are set to move into channels. Don't think Crouch and Pavy are the best options here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salamy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 ill give it a shot thnx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsoz Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 mr hough in the last 15 minutes what changes i do?when i won by 1 gol great tactic again mr hough. i never felt there was anything wrong with UD v1.1 but this is slightly better. i have keane at celtic and i think he works best as the right striker but he's also good as the middle striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyjeffrey Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Mr. Hough, I am using the 1.1 and its the best tactic I have used in a while. i scored 200+ goals in my first season with R. Madrid (I know everythings easier with them). Ronaldo scored 80. Nice job and thanks for your hard work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albsta Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Mr. Hough, I am using the 1.1 and its the best tactic I have used in a while. i scored 200+ goals in my first season with R. Madrid (I know everythings easier with them). Ronaldo scored 80. Nice job and thanks for your hard work. Wow, thats just crazy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t77 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Wow, thats just crazy Mr. Hough, I am using the 1.1 and its the best tactic I have used in a while. i scored 200+ goals in my first season with R. Madrid (I know everythings easier with them). Ronaldo scored 80. Nice job and thanks for your hard work. I can attest to that aswell, altho did not score as much goals as that...lol... I used Hough's complete dominance tactic and played Ronaldo on the LF (poacher) and he got like 60 - 70 goals a season, CONSISTENTLY each season til he was like 30. I found that ridiculous and stop playing that save eventually.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hey, Just to clear a few things up. 1. There is no corner bug in my tactics as i feel like i don't need them all corners aimed at the back post where the best header of the ball is waiting to pounce. 2. The beta and the classic are basicly the same tactic with slight changes on the classic that i haven't managed to figure out on the beta...... Yet! 3. I will always encourage players to pick there own team because it this there game after all But i'm a nice guy so any questions at team selection i will try and answer. 4. I want to start making another tactic but i also want to enjoy the game aswell my longest save so far on this years FM is 3 years, So i won't be starting to make another tactic for about 1 week. I hope this has answered some questions for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I changed it slightly to be a 41212 and these are the first two results, pretty damn good I have to say I was owning with your original 10.2, but I had to try your new tactic and for now it works great, gonna keep on with it With this formation would you just move the centre forward back to become an AMC and would you have to change any of his settings??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
old gregg Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Mr Hough. I've started using your 10.3 with my Liverpool side. Only played 5 games and have 1 win and 4 draws. Conceding a lot of goals from players dancing through the middle of my defence which is strange considering its a narrow tactic. Anyway I just sort of played without really checking player attributes so I decided to check that as you seem to put a lot of stock in player attributes. My question is what is a good number for the different levels? i.e. 15 for Prem sides 13 for Championship sides etc. or are some more important than others. Ive just searched for a midfield player using 15 and the search resulted in no players! Gerrard has the stats to play as an advanced forward and deep lying forward but not as a midfielder. I dont really feel like I can give a proper critique of the tactic when player attributes are so important and I dont have the players for it. Any responses would be much appreciated. BTW I'm using the classic. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Mr Hough.I've started using your 10.3 with my Liverpool side. Only played 5 games and have 1 win and 4 draws. Conceding a lot of goals from players dancing through the middle of my defence which is strange considering its a narrow tactic. Anyway I just sort of played without really checking player attributes so I decided to check that as you seem to put a lot of stock in player attributes. My question is what is a good number for the different levels? i.e. 15 for Prem sides 13 for Championship sides etc. or are some more important than others. Ive just searched for a midfield player using 15 and the search resulted in no players! Gerrard has the stats to play as an advanced forward and deep lying forward but not as a midfielder. I dont really feel like I can give a proper critique of the tactic when player attributes are so important and I dont have the players for it. Any responses would be much appreciated. BTW I'm using the classic. Cheers If you played gerrard in any of the forward roles he would bang the goals in just retrain him as striker. I'm abit worried about the players dancing through the defence i'll have a look at this on my save and see if i can adjust anything thta will make it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filke Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 should all 3 strikers be fast and small or should i use tall and fast strikers more like complete forwards tnx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 should all 3 strikers be fast and small or should i use tall and fast strikers more like complete forwards tnx. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, If you playing with the tactic (i'll use the classic as an example) You will notice that the 2 outer forwards move onto the wing then either cut inside or cross so players with good jumping heading ability would be better. Pace isn't really needed Players like Adriano Tardelli Pelliesster Jon Dahl Tommesson Would excell in the forward positions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 With this formation would you just move the centre forward back to become an AMC and would you have to change any of his settings??? Yap, of course I've changed his settings, used the ''Set to'' drop down menu...and chosen the Att. Mid., after that only thing I've changed was removing ''roam from position'', that's all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yap, of course I've changed his settings, used the ''Set to'' drop down menu...and chosen the Att. Mid., after that only thing I've changed was removing ''roam from position'', that's all Thanks for that. I'll give it a go when I get home from work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataggy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Thanks for bringing this to my attention, If you playing with the tactic (i'll use the classic as an example)You will notice that the 2 outer forwards move onto the wing then either cut inside or cross so players with good jumping heading ability would be better. Pace isn't really needed If they move out to wings and cut inside or cross, why do they need good jumping heading? they would need dribbling, crossing, creativity etc? or am i missing somthing lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smex36 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 If they move out to wings and cut inside or cross, why do they need good jumping heading? they would need dribbling, crossing, creativity etc? or am i missing somthing lol. Yes. the forward in the middle should be a good header because of the crosses from the forwards on the wings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataggy Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Oh right, because Hough didnt specify that it was the middle striker that needs to be good in the air, the way it reads suggests the 2 outta forwards need to be good in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've been trying these tactics and i started with the classic and i played 7 games(4 wins, 3 losses) but i'm not comfortable with classic tactics anymore. So i've gone back to wizard and i've just stuffed fulham away 4-1. I'm blackburn by the way. I'll keep you posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jickyx Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmaff Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I just tried the classice tactic and not the new one and so far very impressed with the results. I have done 2 holiday seasons with Exeter City to try it was not a fluke the first time. But with both holiday games I have finished 4 and 6th in league one, without signing any players at all just using the standard team. So your tactic seems to work whether your a good team or a ***** team. Very well done for this tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovepb2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 hello Mr Hough i'm from China English's Very Bad.... Me Tactics's Ok? Pato ST's Left? Right? centre;middle? Thank's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joycie88 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I played another match and destroyed Liverpool Loving the tactic! To whoever asked for my lineup: Lukaku C. Cole Gignac Palacios Hazard Sandro D.Renan Otamendi Zapata Srna This is a completely different team to what I started with of course and cost quite a bit! But you get the idea! Carlton Cole, Palacios and the CBs have been my star performers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactic Master Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Im simply loving this now despite defensive lapses. Gabby Agbonlohor has now scored 20 Goals and 6 Assists in 13 Games!!! Average Rating of 8.29 Its a shame i couldn't afford another striker that can bang them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Im simply loving this now despite defensive lapses. Gabby Agbonlohor has now scored 20 Goals and 6 Assists in 13 Games!!! Average Rating of 8.29Its a shame i couldn't afford another striker that can bang them in. I'm glad your enjoying it mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've went from using the 'wizard' tactic to the 'classic' tactic and for some strange reason we're just not playing as well as we did before. Not sure why as it's just the same tactic but it's almost like my players are having to re-adjust. Take it you can't switch back to 'wizard' style once you've gone to 'classic'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've went from using the 'wizard' tactic to the 'classic' tactic and for some strange reason we're just not playing as well as we did before.Not sure why as it's just the same tactic but it's almost like my players are having to re-adjust. Take it you can't switch back to 'wizard' style once you've gone to 'classic'? I have found this aswell it's quite strange. some of the settings are different too say you tempo and passing are on really short and on the players but if you change the tactic to classic, The settings change to the middle which i don't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactic Master Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Man Utd just can't cope with Agbonlohor, he's scored 7 goals in the 2 games i've played against them! Maybe is down to the fact that teams like Man utd press forward which leaves Agbonlohor with space to break through due to his 20 pace and acceleration? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 There isn't a poacher, theres a deep lying foward and two advanced fowards. Not on the version I downloaded. There is a poacher and I'm wondering why there is no mention of his attributes in the OP? I was trying out the beta wizard tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I have found this aswell it's quite strange.some of the settings are different too say you tempo and passing are on really short and on the players but if you change the tactic to classic, The settings change to the middle which i don't understand. I think after using the 'classic' one I am going to stick with the 'wizard' tactic. Don't get me wrong - the 'classic' one was fine and I was winning but I just felt that the team were more in control using the 'wizard' tactic. It's the first tactic I'm using that has my team playing great football. I take it in order to revert back to 'wizard' you have to start a new game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hmm, allways wanna try game with everton, tried wizard one. Signed noone, get Alibec on loan. Edit; not holidayed, used bubba tt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Can anybody tell me why there is a poacher on the beta wizard tactic I downloaded but no mention of it in the OP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth250480 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I think after using the 'classic' one I am going to stick with the 'wizard' tactic.Don't get me wrong - the 'classic' one was fine and I was winning but I just felt that the team were more in control using the 'wizard' tactic. It's the first tactic I'm using that has my team playing great football. I take it in order to revert back to 'wizard' you have to start a new game? im finding the same thing to be honest. while the classic tactic is good i find i concede more goals with it and games seem a lot harder to win. with the wizard tactics i have been smashing teams. liverpool 4-0 at home and 4-1 away spring to mind, porto 5-0 in the champs league final as well as beating chelsea both home and away in the league and champs league quarter finals and real madrid home and away in the semi finals. im not convinced ill match this with the classic tactic but going to stick with it just to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 I think after using the 'classic' one I am going to stick with the 'wizard' tactic.Don't get me wrong - the 'classic' one was fine and I was winning but I just felt that the team were more in control using the 'wizard' tactic. It's the first tactic I'm using that has my team playing great football. I take it in order to revert back to 'wizard' you have to start a new game? just download the wizard tactic again simples!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddyoh Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Oh right, because Hough didnt specify that it was the middle striker that needs to be good in the air, the way it reads suggests the 2 outta forwards need to be good in the air. I think because when they go wide and cross the ball in for the other wide striker, thats what has been happening in my game anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alstarz01 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Well... Unlike the rest of the comments on here. Im trying ur tactic with a real test. Southend United League 1, no money. I'll post results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Guys, I don't mean to be a pest but can somebody tell me why there is a poacher on the beta wizard tactic but no reference to it by the OP. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisales Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 In response to people talking about aerial ability, I would say it was a bonus, but not necessary. For example my Portsmouth game, (a pretty good test for a tactic!) my 1st choice front three is: Piquionne Kanu Utaka So say Utaka pulls out into the right channel, as he does alot (AMR/ST), both Piquionne and Kanu are decent headers, and they have both popped up with goals from Utakas crosses and from full back crosses as well. But as a proportion these goals are very low, even though they are both very decent headers by striker standards - so I would say a bonus for all three positions, especially for the central striker, but not a requirement at all. I like the tactic (using classic) so far though check out this: 16 games in You know the tactic must be good, because its certainly not the player Overall I'm currently 5th with 27 points from 16 games, not bad considering I mean the squad is just woeful. Best result so far is below, I also got a 2-2 draw at Stamford Bridge! Sadly I havent had a big money takeover yet, in another game Pompey got bought out by a super rich Italian businessmen (I have to admit, I was secretly hoping for that). May have to sell players in January, theres alot of interest in Wilson and Belhadj. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnbmannager Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Jesus, i tried the tactic beta wizard with Real Madrid season 2016/2017 MY FIRST AND ONLY GAME FOR LIGA BBVA: http://yfrog.com/jorealmadrid1001jogocampej This is my formation : Casillas SergioRamos Fazio Sidnei Marcelo Miguel Veloso Pjanic Kaka Vela Benzema Rossetti this was my formation against levante, and i still have rooney but is injured... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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