hamzarie Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 hamzaire from what I can see (mr Hough please don't get angry ) you can just drop central striker to AMC position. It will then be like Joint Venture tactic. Try it. You will demolish most teams which may get boring . hi info0, ok.. i will try that... thanks a lot!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 hamzaire from what I can see (mr Hough please don't get angry ) you can just drop central striker to AMC position. It will then be like Joint Venture tactic. Try it. You will demolish most teams which may get boring . lol, I was thinking of that too but think with the new patch being out the opp's defence is alot better when it comes to marking the amc so maybe a few changes is needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Well, if you make the table you can see which tactics you do great against, equal and what tactics minimize your chances. I did it back in CM days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Well, if you make the table you can see which tactics you do great against, equal and what tactics minimize your chances. I did it back in CM days. I know i've seen on the Champman0102 Forums, I still love that game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylv2 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 yep im in that forum aswell .. great game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
top man Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Where is the link to down load this tactic ? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Where is the link to down load this tactic ?Cheers if you look at the first post on the thread there is links there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What are the player requirements for the classic version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 What are the player requirements for the classic version? Exact same settings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Exact same settings But deep lying forward, advanced forward etc. doesn't "exist" in a classic tactic version. So which one of the three strikers are the advanced forward for instance. etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 But deep lying forward, advanced forward etc. doesn't "exist" in a classic tactic version. So which one of the three strikers are the advanced forward for instance. etc. Left and Right striker are the advanced forward and the middle one is still the deep lying forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
top man Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Can i ask which one is the best now you have has time to adjust them Classic or wizard ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Can i ask which one is the best now you have has time to adjust them Classic or wizard ? on my Crystal Palace Challenge i started out using the Classic and although i was winning games i was drawing more than i'd like so i changed to the V1 Beta Wizard and i haven't lost or drawn in 5 games. So i'd start with the Beta Wizard mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting_Lisbon_2008 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Left and Right striker are the advanced forward and the middle one is still the deep lying forward ..but why do I have the right advanced forward set as a poacher on the wizard tactic? Is this incorrect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 ..but why do I have the right advanced forward set as a poacher on the wizard tactic? Is this incorrect? I forgot to change it thats all the settings are exactly the same apart from creative freedom so it don';t make that much difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
top man Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 If i pulled back the deep lying forward to make a 4-1-2-1-2 would that not make any difference to the tactic. I have read that you also like the 4-1-2-1-2 so is it not as simple as that ? cheers sofar great tactic i'll keep you informed i'm Newcastle just been promted half way through the season in the prem currently lyig in 12th place 16 games to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting_Lisbon_2008 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Left and Right striker are the advanced forward and the middle one is still the deep lying forward I forgot to change it thats all the settings are exactly the same apart from creative freedom so it don';t make that much difference ...would you recommend that I change it to an advanced forward role or leave it as it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 ...would you recommend that I change it to an advanced forward role or leave it as it is? I'm not sure to be honest because i've changed all the settings within the roles i'm not sure if the roles would apply. If you understand what i mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 If i pulled back the deep lying forward to make a 4-1-2-1-2 would that not make any difference to the tactic.I have read that you also like the 4-1-2-1-2 so is it not as simple as that ? cheers sofar great tactic i'll keep you informed i'm Newcastle just been promted half way through the season in the prem currently lyig in 12th place 16 games to go I know people have had success by just pulling the Deep striker back into the amc position. try it though see how it goes, I will be making another version of the 4-1-2-1-2 because it's my Fav position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I am annoyed with the negative comments coming from posters with about 100+ posts. You guys no nothing about FM, in fact to suggest as info0 did that I concentrate too much on the English leagues is a big mistake. A tactic should be open to criticism, positive or otherwise. At no stage has this tactic been proven to work. Therefore this tactic is another one of many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 I am annoyed with the negative comments coming from posters with about 100+ posts. You guys no nothing about FM, in fact to suggest as info0 did that I concentrate too much on the English leagues is a big mistake. A tactic should be open to criticism, positive or otherwise. At no stage has this tactic been proven to work. Therefore this tactic is another one of many. When i'm posting my 'Success with Crystal Palace what screenshots would you like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Sorry, but you just made yourself look like a stupid person. I remind you what the hell has number of posts have to do with football manager knowledge or football for that matter? Most posts can be treated as spam and what then? Your 1.5k posts counter would go to 100? It's not quantity that matters, but quality of posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfvfbbv Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just because you have more posts than someone doesnt mean you know more about FM than them. This tactic has been proven to work by a lot of people in a lot of different leagues both high and low. You arent actually contributing to the discussion of the tactic. If you take a bit of notice Mr Hough has started a save with Palace so keep quiet for a while and wait and see what the results are if you have nothing constructive to add. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
top man Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Does anyone know where i can find Tugs Training Link ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazup Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 This tactic works, I have managed Maritzberg Utd, Hereford, Northampton, Barnsley, Cardiff, Newcastle and Liverpool in my career game either a saving them from relegation or winning leagues. Maritzberg predicted to finish bottom South African Prem finshed 6th Northampton 24th in league 2 when I took over finished 10th that season 1st the next season with record points Cardiff 24th when I took over in Febuary finished just outsid ethe play offs second season won the championship record points and goals Newcastle just got relegated won the championship first time asking easily then finished 2nd first season in prem and won FA Cup Liverpool took over in Jan they were 13th finished 5th and won FA Cup, second season won premiership by 6 points and record goals, Won carling Cup, runners up in fa cup (lost 1:0 due to an own goal) and lost on pens in the Europa league final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 This tactic works, I have managed Maritzberg Utd, Hereford, Northampton, Barnsley, Cardiff, Newcastle and Liverpool in my career game either a saving them from relegation or winning leagues.Maritzberg predicted to finish bottom South African Prem finshed 6th Northampton 24th in league 2 when I took over finished 10th that season 1st the next season with record points Cardiff 24th when I took over in Febuary finished just outsid ethe play offs second season won the championship record points and goals Newcastle just got relegated won the championship first time asking easily then finished 2nd first season in prem and won FA Cup Liverpool took over in Jan they were 13th finished 5th and won FA Cup, second season won premiership by 6 points and record goals, Won carling Cup, runners up in fa cup (lost 1:0 due to an own goal) and lost on pens in the Europa league final Thats pretty good going mate, Which versions of the tactic was you useing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazup Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Thats pretty good going mate, Which versions of the tactic was you useing? GCS version, normally takes untill the second season to get the best out it, the players just blend so well and play attractive passing football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 The gcs version...... I'll have to add it to the OP because i've had a few nice comments about that. Could someone reupload it and give a description of what it's like if you have time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Im just about to try the new AM settings that Mr Hough posted with my Stalybridge Celtic team. As i dont like playing with 3 strikers. Had been using an AM all season, but had just dropped the Deep Lying Forward back to the AM without changing any settings. He did pretty well, assisting and scoring a few. But he went missing in alot of games. So hopefully the new settings will make him more consistent. I will post the final league table etc at the end of season. At the min im currently top of the Blue Square Prem with 91 points, played 37 scored 90 conceded 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Here's a few screens to show my progress with Crystal Palace that i have been asked/challenged by Jsolloso to prove that my tactics work. Now i don't wanna get ahead of myself but i think i may be able to win the league at this rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Im just about to try the new AM settings that Mr Hough posted with my Stalybridge Celtic team. As i dont like playing with 3 strikers. Had been using an AM all season, but had just dropped the Deep Lying Forward back to the AM without changing any settings. He did pretty well, assisting and scoring a few. But he went missing in alot of games. So hopefully the new settings will make him more consistent. I will post the final league table etc at the end of season. At the min im currently top of the Blue Square Prem with 91 points, played 37 scored 90 conceded 32 I haven't tested the settings i just looked at them and if i was gonna change anything straight off thats what i'd change them too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nice going there Mr H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najt Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 How to set the attacker? I play hoffenhaim and I have Ibisevic, Obasi, Taffer, Acosta, Tagoe, Vukcevic. Sorry for my english... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 jsolloso - just look at the screenshots of the C Palace game above... how you can say that this tactic doesn't work is an absolute mystery to me... That's WITH the points deduction they start with, and no corner cheat... most goals scored by about double, and 30+ goal difference ahead of any other team. I don't know what you have in your head to accept that a tactic is 'great' - but for me, that surpasses great - that's outstanding! Personally, I'm using the Beta Wizard tactic that Mr Hough is currently using as Palace, and I'm Fulham - 1st season, 3 signings: Djalo, Otamendi & Michel - and I'm 4th, just about to enter December - so it's doing great for me too, definitely surpassing my media prediction... which for me classes as great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj4goku Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I am annoyed with the negative comments coming from posters with about 100+ posts. You guys no nothing about FM, in fact to suggest as info0 did that I concentrate too much on the English leagues is a big mistake. A tactic should be open to criticism, positive or otherwise. At no stage has this tactic been proven to work. Therefore this tactic is another one of many. And what the hell does the amount of posts have to do with your knowledge of Football Manager? I have been playing this game since the days of CM, for the past 10yrs to be exact and just because i post little it means i know nothing of the game?....dont make me laugh Personally i think this tactic is a good one and Mr Hough has done a good job taking time out to post this and provide support for his tactic...knowing fully well that he DOESNT HAVE TO. So learn to appreciate the effort and stoping spamming with such ridiculous claims. KUTGW Mr Hough, im enjoying 10.3 and your tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I don't understand why do everyone feed the troll. Just ignore it and it'll go away sooner or later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylv2 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Here's a few screens to show my progress with Crystal Palace that i have been asked/challenged by Jsolloso to prove that my tactics work. Now i don't wanna get ahead of myself but i think i may be able to win the league at this rate. i thought that alassane N'Diaye died.. he was a legend on Cm0102 .. orr is your player a different one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Assane N'diaye died darryl. Don't misspell the damn legend -.- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 The gcs version...... I'll have to add it to the OP because i've had a few nice comments about that.Could someone reupload it and give a description of what it's like if you have time. Ive found the GCS tactic on another forum. I havent used it myself so i cant comment on it http://www.filefront.com/15803247/10.3-Mr.H-_Zico10_gcs-beta-wizard--Everton-May-2010.tac/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Im not a troll, Im also not a lemming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 The gcs version...... I'll have to add it to the OP because i've had a few nice comments about that.Could someone reupload it and give a description of what it's like if you have time. All key atributes are the same, meaby cb's +pace + technique. No shouts, oi's. No need to add more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 All key atributes are the same, meaby cb's +pace + technique. No shouts, oi's. No need to add more. What formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What formation? the same as Mr. H, i only tweaked defence of v1. edit; link @ jay007 post #791 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazup Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What do people do when a player gets sent off? just use 2 strikers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 the same as Mr. H, i only tweaked defence of v1.edit; link @ jay007 post #791 Did you tweak the full backs. Because i used your version in the last game and my full backs seemed to be getting forward alot more. Plus my my RB scored 2 headed goals from crosses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylv2 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Assane N'diaye died darryl. Don't misspell the damn legend -.- ohh my bad.. i thought he had a L .. obvisloy not.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Did you tweak the full backs. Because i used your version in the last game and my full backs seemed to be getting forward alot more. Plus my my RB scored 2 headed goals from crosses yes, i tweaked whole defence + small fix on DM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 yes, i tweaked whole defence + small fix on DM. Can it be Tweaked into a 4-1-2-1-2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Can it be Tweaked into a 4-1-2-1-2? Im currently using the gcs version as 4-1-2-1-2. In Past 2 games i have used it my AMC has scored in both games and got at least 1 assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Im currently using the gcs version as 4-1-2-1-2. In Past 2 games i have used it my AMC has scored in both games and got at least 1 assist. Ow Really Thats good to hear. You see I only like to use Formations that the AI's use. As no managers that I'm aware of use this formation. Do you reckon you could update me after 10 games on your results using the 4-1-2-1-2 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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