Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Do you have a link for your tactic? So literally drag the Central Strike into AMC. nothing else? Yep. So up front you should have an Advanced Forward and a Poacher. The AMC should be on support duty. It should automatically put him on support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Yep. So up front you should have an Advanced Forward and a Poacher. The AMC should be on support duty. It should automatically put him on support. Right thank you very much mate. Haven't had a go on FM 10 properly yet, was always waiting for PAtch 10.3 Going to try PSV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Right thank you very much mate.Haven't had a go on FM 10 properly yet, was always waiting for PAtch 10.3 Going to try PSV. Good luck mate Let us know how you get on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Good luck mateLet us know how you get on Yes will do. Just a quick question, you won the league, but what was your team's Media Prediction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Yes will do.Just a quick question, you won the league, but what was your team's Media Prediction? Well i got promoted with charlton from league 1 to the championship. My media prediction is 14th but i'm top of the league by 16 points and i've still got 2 games in hand. And i'm only in february!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Yes will do.Just a quick question, you won the league, but what was your team's Media Prediction? My media prediction was 24th! Got promoted from the Blue Square North in the 1st season. Hence why i was tipped to finish bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Mr Hough - firstly want to say your tactics have restored my sanity after months of struggling with FM10. Your help has restored my enjoyment of the game.I've played through a few versions of your tactic, with great success, and recently started playing with the 10.3 Better Def version....working well and, though only in pre-season with Tottenham, have scored 16 goals in three games with none against. My question, though, is around the instructions for the three strikers. I've noticed that the deep lying forward (one in centre) - which you recommend has high passing, creativity and decisions for - has the through ball setting on "sometimes". Meanwhile the advanced forwards - with recommended stats that DON'T include passing but do have high dribbling, shooting etc - have through balls set to often. I kind of expected, with the stats you recommend and the nature of the deep lying forward player "dropping deeper" to play in the advanced forwards, the "through ball" settings to be the other way round? Please don't misunderstand me. It seems to work and I'm certainly not complaining! However it has led me to two questions: 1. Should the through ball settings be the other way round? 2. Should the recommended stats you set out in the OP be different for the Better Def version of your tactic. All round though a genius set of tactics that have made my life just a little bit better. Thank you. I want the Deep Lying Forward to run at the defence and draw the opp onto him so then he will release the through ball at the right time, If the setting was on often then he would just do it constatly with out waiting and this could give the ball away. The poacher and advanced forward have the through balls on often because the get dragged out wide so the can give the ball to the other attackers or the mid player in the through ball role, I prefer this to crossing the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagleman Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Well i got promoted with charlton from league 1 to the championship. My media prediction is 14th but i'm top of the league by 16 points and i've still got 2 games in hand. And i'm only in february!!!! ron.e - I am sure your a Palace man, how could you manage Charlton (just a bit of fun) :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overnet Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 i cant seem to download the classic one is there something wrong with the link? plzzz upload another link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Imp2 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I want the Deep Lying Forward to run at the defence and draw the opp onto him so then he will release the through ball at the right time, If the setting was on often then he would just do it constatly with out waiting and this could give the ball away.The poacher and advanced forward have the through balls on often because the get dragged out wide so the can give the ball to the other attackers or the mid player in the through ball role, I prefer this to crossing the ball. I see - well it clearly works! Do you think, given the amount of "through balls the poacher and advanced forwards are making, we should be looking for players with higher passing then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 ron.e - I am sure your a Palace man, how could you manage Charlton (just a bit of fun) :-) I am a palace fan but i got bored of managing them so i started a new game unemployed and the charlton job came up so i took it. Me Bad!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Jovetic - OP means the opening post. The 1st post in the thread by Mr Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 To Mr Hough, GCs or Jay077. When I move the DLF into AMC. I have a Advanced Forward and a Poacher upfront. If I were to have Defoe and Crouch as a strike Partnership, I would put Crouch as Advanced Forward and Defoe as Poacher? So deso the Stronger of the two go into Advanced Forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 . , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 To Mr Hough, GCs or Jay077.When I move the DLF into AMC. I have a Advanced Forward and a Poacher upfront. If I were to have Defoe and Crouch as a strike Partnership, I would put Crouch as Advanced Forward and Defoe as Poacher? So deso the Stronger of the two go into Advanced Forward? I would personally put Defoe as the poacher as he is alot faster than Crouch. And he is natural goal scorer in real life. Looking at Mr Houghs OP he lists the stats needed for each player and for the Advanced Forward it doesnt mention any strength related stats. But for sure out of those 2 players i would set Defoe as the poacher and Crouch as the Adv. Forward. Im sure Mr Hough would know better though as he is the one who has designed the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 IMO put Crouch as poacher and Defoe as ADF Haha totally opposite to what i said. Goes to show that everyone has there own ideas about how the tactic works. Poss the best way is to try them in each position and see which one performs the best where Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Haha totally opposite to what i said. Goes to show that everyone has there own ideas about how the tactic works. Poss the best way is to try them in each position and see which one performs the best where Well i clicked on wrong player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 The board have just given me my transfer budget for the season. A Big fat 0k to spend for the 3rd season running. Suppose it makes it more of a challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 I see - well it clearly works! Do you think, given the amount of "through balls the poacher and advanced forwards are making, we should be looking for players with higher passing then? No i don't think so average passing should be enough. I was set a challenge to manage Crystal Palace because they have a -10 point deduction and no money to improve the Squad. Sean Scannel has scored 31 goals in 34 games assisted 4 from the poacher position. Alan Lee has scored 9 in 20 games Assisted 7 From the advanced Position. Stern John has scored 22 goals in 32 games Assisted 15 from the Deep Lying position. Now i know i'm gonna get asked what position is best for scoring and to be honest i don't know looking at that all the players have chipped in with goals. Sean Scannal has Pace 19 and Accelaration 16 and he's right footed so being in the Left striker spot might help him score goals easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 I would personally put Defoe as the poacher as he is alot faster than Crouch. And he is natural goal scorer in real life. Looking at Mr Houghs OP he lists the stats needed for each player and for the Advanced Forward it doesnt mention any strength related stats. But for sure out of those 2 players i would set Defoe as the poacher and Crouch as the Adv. Forward. Im sure Mr Hough would know better though as he is the one who has designed the tactic I'd have it like that too defoe Poacher and crouch Advanced Striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 The board have just given me my transfer budget for the season. A Big fat 0k to spend for the 3rd season running. Suppose it makes it more of a challenge Loan Signings all the way get a good keeper and some defenders you will Always score goals with this tactic so maybe just get 1 better striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay007 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Loan Signings all the way get a good keeper and some defenders you will Always score goals with this tactic so maybe just get 1 better striker Yeah it looks like loan signings are the way forward. My parent club is Man Utd as well. So thats going to be a big help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
transferking Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Mr H, have played two season with Leeds and achieved two direct promotions (1st in League One of course, second to Wolves in CCC). There I tweaked your latest wizard tactics to 451 so that moved side-forwards simply to AMR and AML positions. Didn't change anything in their settings. It kind of worked but I wasn't so secure against stronger opponents. That's why, before the life in PL, I have some questions: - do you think changes into settings are needed? - what should be my usual starting strategy as weak team in top-flight home and away? (as in CCC I used always Attack) - I have main striker trio as Shelvey (DLF), Fonseca (played AML last season) and now I bought Owen on free. Do you feel I should switch back into 433 or play Fonseca/Owen upfront and moving Shelvey into AMC (his natural position) or even retrain Owen as AMR and continue as before? thx in advance, transferking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrer Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I ve been reading carefully all this time this ''all around'' post and i have to say a big BRAVO to Mr Hough and all the contributioners. I am testing the wizard beta v1 with Aris Salonika and so far my team have notched 7 wins in my all 7 games. I think there is a balance between the attack and the defence especially considering that i ve made only 2 main signings... Here's the table: However like most of u i suppose i tried the tweaked GCS with the deep lying forward dropping to AMC position and the result was perfect! Tested for only 30 minutes when the score was 0-1 for me but the chances i made and the overall perfomance of my AMC made me having a good feeling for this... After i swicthed to 4-1-2-1-2 my team scored another 4 goals and my AMC produced 3 clear cut chances... Skoda Xanthi - Aris Salonika = 0-5 game: I am going to try this in my away games as i think that its ideal against stronger opponents. I ll report back with the results.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Mr H,have played two season with Leeds and achieved two direct promotions (1st in League One of course, second to Wolves in CCC). There I tweaked your latest wizard tactics to 451 so that moved side-forwards simply to AMR and AML positions. Didn't change anything in their settings. It kind of worked but I wasn't so secure against stronger opponents. That's why, before the life in PL, I have some questions: - do you think changes into settings are needed? - what should be my usual starting strategy as weak team in top-flight home and away? (as in CCC I used always Attack) - I have main striker trio as Shelvey (DLF), Fonseca (played AML last season) and now I bought Owen on free. Do you feel I should switch back into 433 or play Fonseca/Owen upfront and moving Shelvey into AMC (his natural position) or even retrain Owen as AMR and continue as before? thx in advance, transferking I have no idea about wingers as when i've tried to make tactics i've always failed so i'm sorry i can't help on that one. I'd go back to the 10.3 Beta i posted, try and get some good defenders Pace will be needed 14 attributte at least. You have some good strikers so i wouldn't worry about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I will post my screens half season in. You will be surprised . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
transferking Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I have no idea about wingers as when i've tried to make tactics i've always failed so i'm sorry i can't help on that one.I'd go back to the 10.3 Beta i posted, try and get some good defenders Pace will be needed 14 attributte at least. You have some good strikers so i wouldn't worry about that. Ok, will try, but do you think about starting strategy? And who is more suited to Adv FW / Poacher position out of Fonseca and Owen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Regular readers of this thread will know that i was challenged to prove my tactics effectivness by jsolloso. I'm not one to pass up this kind of challenge and set about with my Palace save, I've already given some updates on how i was getting on in previous posts but here is a screen shot of where i am after 31 games. This is with no transfer Budget at all and i've made 3 loan signings for Strikers. The biggest challenge was because Palace start with a 10 Point deduction on top of the problems that i have already stated. I think i've proved my point now and i won't be continueing on with this save unless Jsolloso wants to see screens table at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Ok, will try, but do you think about starting strategy? And who is more suited to Adv FW / Poacher position out of Fonseca and Owen? Owen as Poacher Fonseca as Adv Forward, The starting Stratagy is good if you face tough games change to the 10.3 Beta V2 as thats more control and possession based or try GCS's version thats in the OP now and has been getting good reviews about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I have no idea about wingers as when i've tried to make tactics i've always failed so i'm sorry i can't help on that one.I'd go back to the 10.3 Beta i posted, try and get some good defenders Pace will be needed 14 attributte at least. You have some good strikers so i wouldn't worry about that. only the central defenders or also the fullbacks have 14 in pace??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
facman Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Regular readers of this thread will know that i was challenged to prove my tactics effectivness by jsolloso.I'm not one to pass up this kind of challenge and set about with my Palace save, I've already given some updates on how i was getting on in previous posts but here is a screen shot of where i am after 31 games. ...edited..... This is with no transfer Budget at all and i've made 3 loan signings for Strikers. The biggest challenge was because Palace start with a 10 Point deduction on top of the problems that i have already stated. I think i've proved my point now and i won't be continueing on with this save unless Jsolloso wants to see screens table at the end of the season. Frankly, I'm amazed you bothered, as all of us who've been trying out your tactics (or variations of them) are quite convenced of their effectiveness! If you carreid on I think there's not much doubt that you'd win the league! Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 mr hough 10.3 tactic version 2 platense argentinian second division , predicted 11th all open stage matches played on holiday :D:D thats awesome :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 what is the best version?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 what is the best version?? sei italiano??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 sei italiano??? yesssss anche tu??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 yesssss anche tu??? certo =) sono di piacenza Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 ah grande!!! io di milano...comunque che versione preferisci tra quelle postate in prima pagina? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 sto provando la versione 2 e sembra la migliore =) sto adirittura portando una squadra del cazzo di seconda divisione argentina pronosticata undicesima nel campionato massimo mandando il gioco in vacanza :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 la 2 qual'è??la beta wizard l'aggiornamento del 21 marzo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 si penso sia quella...cmq closing stage :DDDDDDDd playoff time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 ma hai fatto qualche acquisto? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 nessuno.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 English, guys. As per forum rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 English forums. Stick to English please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 yes ... sorry guys ... the point is that i've got the promotion with a second argentinian team platense predicted 11th...without buy players or loan players and do it in holiday mode ^_^ with hough v2 tactic isnt amazing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 sorry mate...great job roftleo...you use v2??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 aahaha , yes ^_^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblegumbo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I just want to chime in on how amazingly effective this tactic is, I've used many tactics made by myself and by others downloaded from this forum for the past 2 years and this one is by far the best one I've ever used. So many of my young strikers went into wonderkind status after I used this tactic, whereas before they were struggle to get goals regularly despite having amazing stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 sto provando la versione 2 e sembra la migliore =)sto adirittura portando una squadra del cazzo di seconda divisione argentina pronosticata undicesima nel campionato massimo mandando il gioco in vacanza :D una squadra del cazzo ahahahahah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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