edwinteo Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 instead of man marking there fullback or wide forward try closing down and/or tight marking on them and just tight mark close down always on xavi put your d line up abit too so they can't shot from distance ok noted, crossing fingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 Whats really frustrating is that the opp seem to put corners at a man lurking just above the 6 yard box on the near post. Here is a screen shot of what i mean. As you can see from the screen that this is similar to the corner cheat the in now famous in 10.3 this one just use's a differant method. This happens alot too and it's proberly down to the way i have my men marking the opp and is proberly easy to change to stop it but i just wanted to show that given the oppurtunity that the opp could also use corners to there advantage too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 yep your onto it mate ive noticed the same thin g and its really ****N me off aye with that corner the AI is doing, trying to work around it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumat Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hi Mr Hough, There is a problem I am having with the 10.3 classic formation. I hope you can help me fix this? When the AI is attacking up the wings, the full back and centre back both seem to chase after the ball. This usually results in them crossing into the box and the unmarked striker scores. I tried setting all to man mark, but this did not fix the issue. I am Southend United. It's my second season in the premiership and I have a squad much better than the bottom half of the table, however I concede far too many from this. Also corners are a nightmare. Even with the FB's on each post, I seem to struggle there. Any help would be great! Edit:- Just pushed up the defensive line a few clicks and incorporated the Nike Tick. It's improved my performace against Villa and Blackpool (League Cup). Gonna run with it and see how it goes. If you have any extra info, that would be great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hi Mr Hough,There is a problem I am having with the 10.3 classic formation. I hope you can help me fix this? When the AI is attacking up the wings, the full back and centre back both seem to chase after the ball. This usually results in them crossing into the box and the unmarked striker scores. I tried setting all to man mark, but this did not fix the issue. I am Southend United. It's my second season in the premiership and I have a squad much better than the bottom half of the table, however I concede far too many from this. Also corners are a nightmare. Even with the FB's on each post, I seem to struggle there. Any help would be great! Edit:- Just pushed up the defensive line a few clicks and incorporated the Nike Tick. It's improved my performace against Villa and Blackpool (League Cup). Gonna run with it and see how it goes. If you have any extra info, that would be great! I've been meaning to have a good look at the defensive side of the tactics i have released but i haven't had time lately but i will do soon when i have some spare time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumat Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I look forward to it :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THFC_100 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 this tactic has suddenly stop working on any of my new games i just cant win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallclone Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 this tactic has suddenly stop working on any of my new games i just cant win I get that. For like 12 games. Massive losing streak which doesn't rectify itself. It normally lasts until the end of the season with me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big H Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 this tactic has suddenly stop working on any of my new games i just cant win It happens, but persevere and it will pass. I would try switching between the different versions on the OP, if you always use the same tactic the AI will figure out how you play and go defensive to counter your tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THFC_100 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 It happens, but persevere and it will pass. I would try switching between the different versions on the OP, if you always use the same tactic the AI will figure out how you play and go defensive to counter your tactic.what the AL will figure it out even if i start a new save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THFC_100 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 i persevered with my everton game and i think its back to normal because im currently on a 8 match unbeaten run in the league, unbeaten in Europe and beat united at old trafford 3-1. 10.3 classic best by far and if u slip up mid season trust me, stick with it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MfcChris Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 With this tactic I have always scored a lot and conceding a lot whichever team I was. Now I am a small team in a bigger league (just promoted to league 1), I score a lot and concede a lot still, but concede more. How do you stop giving a lead away? Using Beta version 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebder88 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 It won't let me download the Classic version. Once I click download now, it comes up website not found. Anybody else having this problem with the links? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skavorn Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I'm also having problem with all the links. I click to download and it also says website is not found. Can someone please re-upload the tactics somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinteo Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 it depends on you team because you can't just say " Mr hough i need a tactic i'm against Barcelona next game".I'm not having a go but you can't expect miracles or for me to know what your team, players, morale is when you don't tell me. Barcelona have an excellent starting squad and it just gets better and better over time, If i where you i'd have a look at the tactics and there settings and see which one would suit you best. If you want me to help i need more info than you have given me. Fantastic tactic. I used the gsc download. Made some minor tweaks and the results are as follows: 1) Champions League Quarter Final 1st Leg, Away Barcelona 0 - At Madrid 1 (Forlan) 2) La Liga Home At Madrid 1 (Raul Garcia) Getafe 0 3) Champions League Quarter Final 2nd Leg, Home At Madrid 4 (Dzeko, Pique, Forlan, Rafinha) Barcelona 1 (Zlatan) i'll share the tweaks and per game observations later. This tactic to me works well when teams come to play, ie. Barcelona. When team's park the bus, it needs to be tweaked to be effective. Thx Mr Hough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinteo Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Match Report Champions League Quarter Finals 1st Leg: Barcelona vs At Madrid at the Nou Camp (A) Prematch Build up and Squad updates: At Madrid I have fully fit squad with the key players rested for at least 1 game. I deliberately built up a deep squad with a full 2nd eleven to rotate plus young players retrained to play various roles to cover the worst injury crisis. Barcelona Most noteable is the injured Leo Messi. Other than that, they have a very good lineup fit and ready. Formation choice At Madrid I used Gsc's download formation and started my best 11. i left the tactic as is, because this is the first time i'm using it. I used Bubba's team talks, ie. 'Wish Luck' pregame talks to everyone. I used the Ass Manager's OI advise and left it. GK Asenjo DR Rafinha DL Juan Vargas DC Ivan Marcano (Cover) DC Pique (Stopper) DMC Ignacio Camacho MCl Miguel Veloso MCr Joao Moutinho STl Diego Forlan (Poacher) STc Adriano (DL Forward) STr Sergio Aguero (Adv Forward) Barcelona The started in their typical 4-3-3 formation. GK Valdes DR D. Alaves DL Maxwell DC Milito DC Puyol DMC Yaya Toure MC Xavi MC Ineista AML Juan Angel Abin AMR Bojan ST Zlatan (B) Game Start Game started well for me. I was surprisingly controlling the match in terms of possession and pace. I did not expect that, given i was playing Barcelona away and the default mentalities in the Gsc tactic are all super attacking. Barcelona just could not control the midfield. the 3 forwards were moving all over the place, taking their markers with them. Then i began to see a problem. my team was diving into tackles and conceeding freekicks. Ignachio (DMC) and Rafinha(DR) both picked up yellow cards in the first 30 mins. I went to tactics screen and saw that the entire frontline, DMC plus fullbacks are on Hard Tackling. No wonder, we were over-committing. 1st Tweak, lowered all Hard Tackling players to Normal. As a result of the tweak, my team appeared more structured and compact. Keeping space tight and denying Xavi space and targets to pick out. This was looking good, a few highlights showed some shots being saved or going wide by the 3 forwards, Forlan looking especially lively breaking into the space between the DC and FB. Barcelona 0 - At Madrid 1 (Diego Forlan, 43 min) I took the lead close to HT when Aguero got the ball facing goal in the penalty area. He dribbled left of Puyol and drew Maxwell into the double team, Forlan broke away from his marker and got on the pass from Aguero. 1 on 1 with Valdes, Forlan slammed the ball past him at the near post! All in all, a very nice move showing teamwork and coordination between the forwards. Not to mention Adriano moving left taking Milito with him, and Aguero coming central to receive the ball from central midfield. Barcelona chases the game, but the tactic keeps them at bay. They start launching long balls over the top, and one 1 occassion Zlatan breaks the def line and gets 1 on 1 with Asenjo. Luckily he scourns the chance to get his shot deflected out for a corner. Quickly move to Tactics screen to rectify. 2nd Tweak: Noticed the Time wasting setting is set to lowest. Moved it to 1st notch of 'Sometimes'. Changed Philosopy to 'Balanced' and Strategy to 'Standard'. I later released that all the mentality settings are individually set, so only the Time wasting tweak made a difference. I took control back. Passing the ball around less hurriedly and saw the game out. © Observations The tactic worked great at stiffling Barcelona's usual attack, ie. threading passes to the constantly moving forwards. I have never seen my DMC play this well. Normally, he is very ineffective. The attacking Central Midfielders also played an important part in the midfield battle, much to my surprise too, with them being set to Attack. Only scare to take note of was the over the top balls, which caught my defence out. Playing long balls, effectively took the midfield shield setup out of the equation and became a Forward vs DC situation, which can always go 50-50. Prefer never to allow such situations, even if its 2 vs 1. all it takes is 1 slip and the forward is through on goal. Next up, game against Getafe (which they parked the bus) I'll share tweaks i used to break them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinteo Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Match Report La Liga Match: At Madrid vs Getafe at the Calderon (A) Prematch Build up and Squad updates: At Madrid Squad Rotation time. I brought in almost my entire 2nd Elven, to keep my best players rested for the return leg against Barcelona. A bit short in central midfield as i need to use Jack Rodwell at DC. So drafted in Diego Buottanonte at Central midfield attack. Getafe not familiar with their squad so no comments. Formation choice At Madrid I used Gsc's download formation and started my best 11. i left the tactic as is, because this is the first time i'm using it. I used Bubba's team talks, ie. 'Wish Luck' pregame talks to everyone. I used the Ass Manager's OI advise and left it. GK Asenjo DR Cesar Azpilicueta DL Antonio Lopez DC Phil Jagelika (Cover) DC Jack Rodwell (Stopper) DMC Felipe Melo MCl Diego Buottanote MCr Raul Garcia STl Reyes (Adv Forward) STc Adriano (DL Forward) STr Edison Cavani (Poacher) Getafe The started in 4-4-2 (B) Game Start Possession was dominated as Getafe setup to shut up. all players behind the ball, not coming out of their half. i left the Hard Tackling on to try to win the ball back and put their players under pressure. My gamble was that the Getafe players would not be skillful enough to evade my tackles and earn me yellow cards. My gamble paid off, i was snapping at their heels, forcing errors and winning tackles. Problem was, with over 70% possession and 15 shots on goal within the first 30 mins, i was not getting good goal scoring opportunities. looking closer at the highlights, because Getafe was sitting so deep, my forwards were standing around in their 6 yard box. when a forward broke free, and a teammate found him, he had max. 8 yards from goal and had little to aim for, masses of bodies around him, little angle to shot at goal and the keeper anticipating the shot. Also, my central midfield was just spraying 1st time passes all over the place with not much success. 1st Tweak: Increased Time wasting to 1st notch of 'Sometimes'. Idea was to not rush the pass. hold till an opportunity arose then release the ball. 2nd Tweak: Because the tactic is done in Classic Mode, i lowered everybody's mentality by 3 notches each. Idea was to have players starting lower down the field, to have more space infront of them to attack. With the tweaks, the machine began to click. Passes were finding their mark. More useful penetration and kick backs. Better use of the ball basically. At Madrid 1 (Raul Garcia, 60 min) - Getafe 0 As expected when playing an inferior side setup to defend, it was frustrating. Plenty of crowding out and last min tackles and blocks. Super keeper saves were there of course. The goal came from a buildup down the right flank. Our DR received a pass wide from the DMC. Moved up unmarked and drew a defender. He played the ball infield to the STr who released Raul Garcia running from deep. Raul Garcia shook of his marker, latched on to the through pass and smashed the ball into the net past the keeper! The rest of the game i was knocking on the door, but some fantastic saves kept the score at 1 nil. © Observations Without the tweaks, i think i would have fallen into Getafe's game plan. Playing with reduced mentality allowed more space infront of the attackers to run into. It also forced Getafe to defend higher up the pitch. This idea might be useful to some bros who are having slumps. Next up, return leg against Barcelona which i absolutely whooped them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!lver Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I've been trying something on a new save, with Bayern. They probably have the best pair of wingers (Ribery + Robben), and 3 different kind of strikers (Gomez, good finisher [18] / Klose, strong man, good header / Olic, bad technical attributes, but awesome mental and physical ones). I decided to try pushing the left and right strikers on the wing, as inside forwards (great dribbling possibilities on both Ribery and Robben), letting the central striker alone upfront. I've also made some tweaks on various points to fit the my players. I only tried during friendlies and it working great so far, but something is bothering me. Here are some screenshots : http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/12095730216009_bayern1.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/21457305454860_bayern2.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/6549532091289_bayern3.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/10639861237467_bayern4.jpg As you can see, it really decent offensively, great ball possession (55%+), good passes completed (over 75%), but defensively, I concede on almost every shot on target. Any idea on what to change to get the most out of my team, and keeping clean sheets ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 How do you get the three piece set up from your ss??? http://michaeltmurrayuk.blogspot.com/search/label/fm2010%20mod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!lver Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I've been trying something on a new save, with Bayern. They probably have the best pair of wingers (Ribery + Robben), and 3 different kind of strikers (Gomez, good finisher [18] / Klose, strong man, good header / Olic, bad technical attributes, but awesome mental and physical ones). I decided to try pushing the left and right strikers on the wing, as inside forwards (great dribbling possibilities on both Ribery and Robben), letting the central striker alone upfront. I've also made some tweaks on various points to fit the my players. I only tried during friendlies and it working great so far, but something is bothering me. Here are some screenshots : http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/12095730216009_bayern1.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/21457305454860_bayern2.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/6549532091289_bayern3.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/10639861237467_bayern4.jpg As you can see, it really decent offensively, great ball possession (55%+), good passes completed (over 75%), but defensively, I concede on almost every shot on target. Any idea on what to change to get the most out of my team, and keeping clean sheets ? Keep going this way unfortunately : http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/11607440769837_bayern5.jpg http://s2.noelshack.com/upload/21471129902277_bayern6.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebder88 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Seems to be downloading fine this morning. Going to give the Classic a try out with my Sunderland side at the start of my second season. See if I can build on my 8th place finish from last season. Will report back after I've given it a good run of matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khongtuoc111 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I use gcs version . Most of games my team long shot very much .How to tweak it Mr Hough P/s : sorry for my bad English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlewis13 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Has anyone tried putting the nike sytem into this tactic, if so how has it worked for them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikton Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Any suggestions for tweaks when facing teams who are a lot stronger than yourself? I've tried to reduce the mentality, deeper defensive line, more time wasting and a more direct style of play. It works to a certain degree, but I'm still losing every game against stronger teams. I can't even manage a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumat Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Has anyone tried putting the nike sytem into this tactic, if so how has it worked for them? I tried, but it ended up meaning the defensive line was too high and people kept scoring from the counter attacks. Other than that type of goal, it was really solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlewis13 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I tried, but it ended up meaning the defensive line was too high and people kept scoring from the counter attacks. Other than that type of goal, it was really solid. So would you recommend it or stick with whats in place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 On the 'classic' tactic is there are reason why no one is marking the posts when defending corners? Don't want to change it only to find out that you leave someone unmarked ala 'corner exploit'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumat Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Has anyone tried putting the nike sytem into this tactic, if so how has it worked for them? So would you recommend it or stick with whats in place? To incorporate it I had to move the defensive line up, but this caused major problems against quick teams. If you can figure out a way to implement this into the existing setup, you would probably be on to a winner. I was unsure how to do this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
old gregg Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 this tactic has suddenly stop working on any of my new games i just cant win I've just gotten to the last 10 games of the season (including 2 champs league semi finals) and all of a sudden the goals have dried up and the defence is leaky as hell. In my 10 previous games I won them all scoring 40 and conceding 5. My next 9 I have won just one and scored 6 conceding 10. I was 10 points clear and now will have to win my last game of the season to win the league. I dont think this has anything to do with the AI working out the tactic as this has happened for shorter periods in my previous seasons but never at the end like this and we have always just started scoring again. Keep the faith with the tactic and unfortunately we have to accept that the AI decides when you will lose sometimes. Rant over! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
old gregg Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 yep. lost the league on the last day. my last 3 opponents had a combined 5 shots on target and scored a combined 5 goals. Each of their goalkeepers won the MOM too. The game hates me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruyff14 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 On the 'classic' tactic is there are reason why no one is marking the posts when defending corners?Don't want to change it only to find out that you leave someone unmarked ala 'corner exploit'. I changed it and placed men on the posts and defending seems to be fine if not better as i would never defend corners without men on the posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgers Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I changed it and placed men on the posts and defending seems to be fine if not better as i would never defend corners without men on the posts. Cheers. Will move my full backs to mark the posts. Didn't want to do it in case there was a special reason for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumat Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 yep. lost the league on the last day. my last 3 opponents had a combined 5 shots on target and scored a combined 5 goals. Each of their goalkeepers won the MOM too. The game hates me! If your team is doing much better than expected, the AI seems to force you to lose alot of matches against easy or hard teams. In my league Sunderland were 6th and the last 5 games of the season they did terrible. They finished 8th but dropped alot of points. I think club reputation and club expectations may affect this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 I changed it and placed men on the posts and defending seems to be fine if not better as i would never defend corners without men on the posts. The way i set up the defending corners is having the 2 central defenders 1 on near post 1 on far post and every other player set to go back apart from 1 who i set to stay forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinteo Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 yep. lost the league on the last day. my last 3 opponents had a combined 5 shots on target and scored a combined 5 goals. Each of their goalkeepers won the MOM too. The game hates me! what works for me is increasing the 'Time Wasting' setting to the first notch of 'Sometimes'. Currently i'm using GSC's tactic and the time wasting is set to lowest rarely. What i observe is that with time wasting set so low, players seem to rush passes or hit long shots, even though the tempo is set to low also. after tweaking to 'Sometimes' players make better decisions and the flow of the game is better. Forwards receive the ball in better positions and they work better as a team instead of just trying through balls immediately, or shooting immediately. Second thing i noticed, is that the keeper is set to distribute the ball to a specific defender, ie. Right DC. This cost me a call, when he was tackled by the op. forward, and my fullbacks raced up the pitch, offering no safe passing option. I left 'Defender Collect' selected but selected no specific defender. This is a safer bet for me and still helps improve possession without booting the ball upfield all the time. I'm also experimenting with lowering the Creative Freedom for the DL Forward. i noticed that he tries to do too many things. Often getting the ball in the penalty area, pausing, turning and eventually getting tackled. i'm thinking of lowering the CF to max. lowest 'Much' setting. I'm also trying to play all settings for the 3 forwards on Mixed, to allow them to try what is best in the situation, rather than telling them to try something more often, ie. try though balls or run with ball. The Run from deep setting i will leave it for now, as that affects their transitional positioning on the pitch. finally, i have acheived some results by lowering the entire team mentality slightly. Especially when my home pitch is set to the smallest. this creates more space infront of the 3 forwards to move into and draws the op. further out of their half. i just lower all players mentality manually by 3 notches each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinteo Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Match Report Champions League Quarter Finals 2nd Leg: At Madrid Vs Barcelona at the Calderon (A) Prematch Build up and Squad updates: At Madrid After resting my best players, i have them all fit and ready to go. Only change was i decided to start Dzeko instead of Adriano, for more mobility. The tactical change worked wonders, as u will read below. Barcelona Messi is back for Barcelona. will he be the deciding factor in the tie? Read on to find out! Formation choice At Madrid I used Gsc's download formation and started my best 11. i left the tactic as is, because this is the first time i'm using it. I used Bubba's team talks, ie. 'Wish Luck' pregame talks to everyone. I used the Ass Manager's OI advise and left it. GK Asenjo DR Rafinha DL Juan Vargas DC Ivan Marcano (Cover) DC Pique (Stopper) DMC Ignacio Camacho MCl Miguel Veloso MCr Joao Moutinho STl Diego Forlan (Poacher) STc Dzeko (DL Forward) STr Sergio Aguero (Adv Forward) Barcelona The started in their typical 4-3-3 formation. GK Valdes DR D. Alaves DL Maxwell DC Milito DC Puyol DMC Yaya Toure MC Xavi MC Ineista AML Bojan AMR Messi (He's back!) ST Zlatan (B) Game Start Bringing an away goal lead into the 2nd leg, i'm sure Barcelona would start attacking me from the 1st whistle. They tried but got nothing out of my boys. i took control of the tie and played to my strengths. All 3 forwards were testing their defence. A few desperate blocks and interceptions in the penalty area were good signs that my players were testing the Barca defence. I had already tweaked the Hard Tackling and Time wasting setting so i was controlling the match and tempo. At Madrid 1 (Dzeko, 20 min) - Barcelona 0 Aguero got the ball from the right flank, with the op DL drawn to him, he held up the ball waiting for an opportunity. Dzeko had switched with Forlan to be positioned on the left of the attacking 3 and he ghosted past his marker and began his run behind the Barca defence. Aguero superbly picked him out, Dzeko behind the entire defence in the 6 yard box, drilled it under the keeper! Dzeko's better mobility compared to Adriano was on display right there for that goal. At Madrid 1 - Barcelona 1 (Zlatan, 35 min) Being 2-0 up on aggregate was comforting, until horror struck! Idiotic ME decided to ignore common sense to make the GK follow his settings to the T and distribute to his defender (Defender Collect). However, a specific defender was selected right DC, Pique. ME decided to follow instructions, even though Pique was marked tight by Zlatan, ala Barca advanced pressing game. GK to Pique, Zlatan tackles him, run through on goal and smashes the ball into the roof of the net. What a waste! Besides Pique, all 3 defenders were unmarked and available and the ME decided to pass it to the marked Pique. I changed this immediately, even though it was too late. At Madrid 2 (Pique 43 min) - Barcelona 1 Ok, Pique's rating dropped to 5.3 after his motivation went from 'Looking motivated' to 'Mistake led to goal'. However, he made amends by scoring from a corner close to half time to restore the 2 goal advantage. HT At Madrid 3 (Forlan, 55 min) - Barcelona 1 2nd half began in a flurry. Barcelona switched to a 4-4-2 with Bojan pushed up besides Zlatan, Ineista moving to the left flank. Before Bara could mount a comeback with momentum, Aguero worked his magic again for his 2nd assist of the night. Switching with Forlan, Aguero drifted into space on the left flank. He dribbled past Alaves and swung a cross into the box. Dzeko and Forlan went for it and Forlan connected with a diving header at the far post to put the match away. I did a check on the Barca player rating, and the majority of them were below 6.0. At Madrid 4 (Rafinha, 83 min) - Barcelona 1 Everybody was getting in on the act. Barcelona switched formation yet again, to a 4-2-1-2 narrow diamond. Dont ask me why, maybe to limit the damage? with play so congested in the centre, the goal came from a 6 yard box scramble, with the rebound falling kindly to Rafinha who had come infield from the right. Rafinha's 1st goal of the season, the icing on the cake. Match ends like that. With Barca players dejected by being blown away. Not surprisingly Pique picks up the Man of the match award. Somehow defenders who score goals normally win the award. I would have given it to Aguero for his 2 assists. But i'm not the ME. © Observations Fantastic win over Barcelona to setup semi-finals against Arsneal. That would be another epic battle with the Gunners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesadviser Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Just finished the season using the Classic for the first time and won the Premier League with Notts County finishing with 91 points and scoring 129 goals. Knocked Barcelona out of CL then lost in the quarters to FC Bayern. I won the first leg 5-1 at home and then lost 7-1 away, thia after beating the same team 7-0 and 5-0 in the group stages! However I think the AI had decided enough was enough and wasn't going to be beaten as during the second leg I had 3 goals disallowed, a man sent off, my two best players had to go off injured in the first half and two of Bayern's goals came from penalties!! Can't recommend this tactic enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toshi Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Really fantastic work mate. I took Birmingham who was preticted to be 17th or 18th something. Here is my transfers in first season Fantastic results through the season And final table I lost 3-3 and 3-4 to Man UTD in semi finals of League Cup And 6th round of FA cup i lost against Man UTD but dont care I use classical version by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 Just finished the season using the Classic for the first time and won the Premier League with Notts County finishing with 91 points and scoring 129 goals. Knocked Barcelona out of CL then lost in the quarters to FC Bayern. I won the first leg 5-1 at home and then lost 7-1 away, thia after beating the same team 7-0 and 5-0 in the group stages! However I think the AI had decided enough was enough and wasn't going to be beaten as during the second leg I had 3 goals disallowed, a man sent off, my two best players had to go off injured in the first half and two of Bayern's goals came from penalties!!Can't recommend this tactic enough lol, Sounds like that last game with Bayern was some battle, Glad your liking the tactics thanks for the comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovetic Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 the more i use classic tactic the more i draw...my striker are ****...cant finishing well...dzeko as advanced forward always go to byline and cross and he only score 4 in 12 game...how to respond ? y many people score more than 3 and i only score 2 or 1...i use juventus anyway...fight teams like livorno win 1-0 only.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 the more i use classic tactic the more i draw...my striker are ****...cant finishing well...dzeko as advanced forward always go to byline and cross and he only score 4 in 12 game...how to respond ?y many people score more than 3 and i only score 2 or 1...i use juventus anyway...fight teams like livorno win 1-0 only.... try using a differant version then you might have abit more success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovetic Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 try using a differant version then you might have abit more success. its happen in second season...1st season pretty well .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 its happen in second season...1st season pretty well .. You could still try a different version it won't do any harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
old gregg Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If your team is doing much better than expected, the AI seems to force you to lose alot of matches against easy or hard teams. In my league Sunderland were 6th and the last 5 games of the season they did terrible. They finished 8th but dropped alot of points.I think club reputation and club expectations may affect this? Yeah Im Liverpool but after winning the league 3 years in a row I went for a more youthful policy and lost it the next 2 years. Started my 6th season as one of the favourites but Man City were the clear favourite. I expected something like this becuase I have a few youngsters but Torres (31) failed to score in the last 10 games and the others are quite young and morale went low really quickly. Tried everything in terms of team talks and player interaction but to no avail. Anyway I did the honourable thing and resigned. Just been offered the Fulham job.....second game away to Liverpool. Im going to keep going with the classic but im going to be making a few adjustments to my defensive set up from corners. Ive also found that lowering the mentality, upping the time wasting and ticking counter attack when in front seems to work wonders for me. Im off to rebuild my reputation. Wish me luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have no tactic in work yet as i'm just enjoying the game at the minute. Mr Hough, can you upload your 10.3 patch 'best defence' version of your tactic please? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 It's funny you should mention that because i've been working on it but i haven't mentioned anything because i didn't want lots of messages asking for it untill i'm ready to give it out. I've been playing with a Liverpool Legends team and i'll post some screens to show it's effectiveness. These are the only fixtures i've played with the new tactic i've also tested it on a very good tottenham team with similar success. This is the league table not too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruyff14 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'm loving both tactics firstly but find the classic to be the better of the two but has anyone any ideas how to get the defence a little more water tight without effecting the attacking momentum to much? I have already switched the back four to man marking as i'm not a lover of zonal marking in defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 looks real good mate, just 1 question . where do i get the backround you have in the SS there ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'm loving both tactics firstly but find the classic to be the better of the two but has anyone any ideas how to get the defence a little more water tight without effecting the attacking momentum to much? I have already switched the back four to man marking as i'm not a lover of zonal marking in defence a few people have mentioned this to me and i will be having a look at the classics defence just as soon as i finish my new tactic which hopefully won't be long now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighy Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 a few people have mentioned this to me and i will be having a look at the classics defence just as soon as i finish my new tactic which hopefully won't be long now. when will you be putting it on for download Mr H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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