neilez2 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Not played a game of FM in about 2 years! Think I might be getting it for Father's Day. Which tactic would be recommended as the simplest to employ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinamoBucuresti Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 neilez The last one from the OP (MrHough & JPWoody) I've test it right now and is the simplest and the best "unrealistic" tactic I've ever found. I've picked this tacti after a few loses and draws in the second season with MU...then I suddenly start to win and win...and win. Won the Champions League and FA Cup, finish 2nd in Premier League equal points with the winners Arsenal (Goal difference winning), but when I've start using this tactic I was 10 points or so under the 1st place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilez2 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 neilezThe last one from the OP (MrHough & JPWoody) I've test it right now and is the simplest and the best "unrealistic" tactic I've ever found. I've picked this tacti after a few loses and draws in the second season with MU...then I suddenly start to win and win...and win. Won the Champions League and FA Cup, finish 2nd in Premier League equal points with the winners Arsenal (Goal difference winning), but when I've start using this tactic I was 10 points or so under the 1st place. Cheers mate. I'll have a look at that one then. What shape is it? 4-1-4-1 etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibsweden Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Cheers mate.I'll have a look at that one then. What shape is it? 4-1-4-1 etc? It is 4-1-2-0-3. However, I think Mr Hough is soon coming out with a 4-1-2-1-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Yes,like DirtyAce kindly explained,the closing down tweak i made was a recent one,its not on the download on the OP. The tactic still works perfectly fine without it though so dont worry about it. I made the tweak in an atempt to cut down the amount of injuries i was getting and low condition problems with players beyond the 65th min. It seems to address the condition problem quite well and doesn't seem to detract from the tactics performance,In fact if anything my teams seem to be scoring more freely at you can see in the screenshots ive posted.,injuries though are still a little too high but i think thats the 10.3 patch combined with the AI's attempts to stop my success by kicking seven shades of siht out of my players.Another example here though on how my goalscoring has gone through the roof,add this to my Heerenveen side winning 6-0 AT Bayern Munich. Uploaded with ImageShack.us hey woody can you put the link for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Can't you read? No. He already explained what he did. Put all players closing down to middle. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew56 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 woody post again the link because it isnt working please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analapfelstrudel Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Every tactic you can get on download here is listed in the opening post. You only have to open your eyes. All links are working right now. I've tested it... And for the tweaks he did to the tactic you only need to read some posts above... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozzer4 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Would it help putting the tweak on the classic tactic as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 just loaded my barca game + 4-4-2 tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 just loaded my barca game + 4-4-2 tweak. post the tactic please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magica_Milan Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 I think this is not with Mr Hough set of tactics or i'm wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 this is with 4-4-2 tweak. For tactical set check posts #2885(TBH's tactical set) + 2959 (my img) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magica_Milan Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 I see now. Try this tweaked tactic with a lower team to see if it's good enough and report here With Barca seems to easy you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovetic Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 why i can be like other people? my team keep struggling at home and away...i use all teamtalk that were suggested...and my striker only score 1 in 20 game and it was DZEKO !! i lost against bologna,inter,milan,munich,chievo,roma,fiorentina and napoli in my first season and win just 1-0,2-1,3-2, and i were juve...my player is still buffon, chellini and otamendi,ansaldi and forren,sissoko,marchisio,melo,delpiero,dzeko,amauri.. arghh .. i know all of u might think i was noob !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 thanks im going to download a few tactics and try them out, ive re-read my post and it sounded quite rude, so im sorry for that and do appreciate the work and time/effort involved in developing a tactic, something which i could never do myself. I signed Ashley Young for my Liverpool team and he has been great. He has certainly got better and better. He is a useful player too as he can be one of the three up front, the AMC if you pull the central striker back and is also happy in midfield. He is one of my star bananas in the squad and well liked by the team. He even played well on Mr Houghs winger test tactic he once posted. Villa has some good players in their team. Cheers, Boony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boony Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 why i can be like other people? my team keep struggling at home and away...i use all teamtalk that were suggested...and my striker only score 1 in 20 game and it was DZEKO !!i lost against bologna,inter,milan,munich,chievo,roma,fiorentina and napoli in my first season and win just 1-0,2-1,3-2, and i were juve...my player is still buffon, chellini and otamendi,ansaldi and forren,sissoko,marchisio,melo,delpiero,dzeko,amauri.. arghh .. i know all of u might think i was noob !! Not at all, I don't regularly get high scores and I have a strong Liverpool squad. Dzeko has been great for me, in fact he has just won player of the year. I do find that my strikers go though goalless spells though, including Dzeko and Torres. When I first got Ashley Young he often went over 400 minutes before scoring. Which tactics have you been playing? Cheers, Boony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Not at all, I don't regularly get high scores and I have a strong Liverpool squad.Dzeko has been great for me, in fact he has just won player of the year. I do find that my strikers go though goalless spells though, including Dzeko and Torres. When I first got Ashley Young he often went over 400 minutes before scoring. Which tactics have you been playing? Cheers, Boony I agree with boony, Sometimes i can win 4-0 and the very next game draw 0-0 it's annoying but thats the realism of football. Try the latest JP and Hough Tactic here is the link. http://www.filefront.com/16523081/Mr-Hough-and-JP-Woody-Final-Version-10.3-Everton-Nov-2009.tac/ then go into the player settings and make all the players closing down attributte on the middle. If your not sure what the middle is use the tackling as a guide because that is on normal and normal is in the middle ;-) Then change the central Defenders marking from man to zonal. I have a Juventus save a my team is 2nd season GK Buffon, Alves LB Molinaro, De Ceglie, Grosso, Spano (Regen) RB Grygera, Zebina CD Rivas, Chillini, Legrottaglie DM & CM Senna, Sissoko, Melo, Marchiso, Van Der Vaart, Giovincho ST Giovincho, DelPiero, Aguero, Amauri, Trezuguet, Iaquinta Thats my squad it's pretty old too really alot of players in the 30's but there still performing well i'm currently on a 43 game unbeaten streak in the league so going strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegesuke Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 When will you upload the 4-1-2-1-2 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 We can't wait for the new tactic to be released Mr.Hough. Make us proud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Looking forward to the new tactic Dave. How is testing going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Looking forward to the new tactic Dave. How is testing going? Not too good really, I haven't done that much testing over the past few days i should do but i'm enjoying our tactic so i've just been playing my career games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.midt Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 First of all Mr. "GOD" thank u for amazing tactics:) I still use the complete dominance... works great for me... i havent really gone into the player atributtes as u said so im struggling to get good ratings with my dmc... but i still win with every team i play... I am a bit tired to play without wingers, are u gonna release a wing tactic? greetings norway:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyACE Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I must say, I'm not enjoying these new tweaks. My team is just doing nothing with closing down in the middle. We get much fewer scoring opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 First of all Mr. "GOD" thank u for amazing tactics:)I still use the complete dominance... works great for me... i havent really gone into the player atributtes as u said so im struggling to get good ratings with my dmc... but i still win with every team i play... I am a bit tired to play without wingers, are u gonna release a wing tactic? greetings norway:) There has been a winger version formulated have a look at the previous page and you'll find tweaks on how to turn the tactic into a successful 4-4-2. Thanks for the compliment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.midt Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 There has been a winger version formulated have a look at the previous page and you'll find tweaks on how to turn the tactic into a successful 4-4-2.Thanks for the compliment. ok, thank u.. i started reading the thread but its just too big:) gonna try out the tweak:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 First of all Mr. "GOD" thank u for amazing tactics:)I still use the complete dominance... works great for me... i havent really gone into the player atributtes as u said so im struggling to get good ratings with my dmc... but i still win with every team i play... I am a bit tired to play without wingers, are u gonna release a wing tactic? greetings norway:) There is no point releasing a wing tactic if its not going to be as good as the successful narrow tactics that have been released. Fact is wing tactics are too inconsistant on the 10.3 patch. I myself love the 442 formation and have tried till im blue in the face to make one that is as successfull and as consistant as my other tactics but simply cant,im sure Dave has done the same. I dont want to release a 2nd rate tactic and im pretty sure Dave feels the same way because there are all to many people out there only too willing to dish out the abuse. TBH has created a 442 edit which works pretty well,not quite as well though in my opinion. Plus if im going to use a wing tactic i want to use proper wingers who play on the flanks,beatt men and get plenty of crosses in,TBH 442 edit is still pretty narrow. Hopefully FM 2011 will allow us to create successfull winger tactics again because 10.3 simply isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I must say, I'm not enjoying these new tweaks. My team is just doing nothing with closing down in the middle. We get much fewer scoring opportunities. How many games have you played with the tweaks, They might take a few games to get the team in motion especially after playing a certain way for a long time, your team might take a little time to adjust to the new settings. have you noticed anything or is it just the fewer goalscoring opportunity's that you are having problems with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Are you using the closing down tweak Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 There is no point releasing a wing tactic if its not going to be as good as the successful narrow tactics that have been released. Fact is wing tactics are too inconsistant on the 10.3 patch. I myself love the 442 formation and have tried till im blue in the face to make one that is as successfull and as consistant as my other tactics but simply cant,im sure Dave has done the same. I dont want to release a 2nd rate tactic and im pretty sure Dave feels the same way because there are all to many people out there only too willing to dish out the abuse.TBH has created a 442 edit which works pretty well,not quite as well though in my opinion. Plus if im going to use a wing tactic i want to use proper wingers who play on the flanks,beatt men and get plenty of crosses in,TBH 442 edit is still pretty narrow. Hopefully FM 2011 will allow us to create successfull winger tactics again because 10.3 simply isn't. Exactly the same with me, When i have looked at winger tactics i wanted my focus of play to be on the wings where my wingers are the focal point of the tactic, Like you say beat men and whip dangerous crosses in but in 10.3 that seems impossible so i give up lol. I had some decent tactic on 10.0 and made a thread called possession domination, but since then I've been narrow minded because i feel that the match engine in 10.2 and 10.3 in that way. I know alot of Mods realise there is problems with the ME regarding the narrowness of it so surly the developers and beta testers know it too and they will look to rectify the problems in FM11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Are you using the closing down tweak Dave? Yes, I've had no problem with it i think it works better in defence as the whole team stay in position better and it makes the back 4 more stable and the midfield not wandering out closing down the wide opposition players so it leaves gaps in the middle. With the closing down in the middle seems very logical, I'm surprised i hadn't thought of it lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacanda2 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Mr. Houg hi,i would love to' find out how can i play your last formation with just one tweak.. 1amc and just two forward upfront. Do u have some suggestion for the setting for the amc?will appreciate your help,tank's a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Yes, I've had no problem with it i think it works better in defence as the whole team stay in position better and it makes the back 4 more stable and the midfield not wandering out closing down the wide opposition players so it leaves gaps in the middle.With the closing down in the middle seems very logical, I'm surprised i hadn't thought of it lol. Im actually trying closing down the sames as the defensive line,so thats two clicks to the right (from the middle) for every player,this seems even more logical. Currently playing first game. 3-0 up at Bolton HT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Mr. Houg hi,i would love to' find out how can i play your last formation with just one tweak.. 1amc and just two forward upfront. Do u have some suggestion for the setting for the amc?will appreciate your help,tank's a lot. I'm working on a 4-1-2-1-2 as we speak testing with the mighty Montipeller in the french league. First game against PSG i win 3-0 I'll test for a season and let you all know the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Im actually trying closing down the sames as the defensive line,so thats two clicks to the right (from the middle) for every player,this seems even more logical. Currently playing first game. 3-0 up at Bolton HT so let me get this straight... My closing down is set on the middle for every player so now i move it to the right so it's in the attacking side 2 notches for every player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 so let me get this straight... My closing down is set on the middle for every player so now i move it to the right so it's in the attacking side 2 notches for every player? Yeah,so its the same as the defensive line of the team. Im not saying its going to work, ive just started using it, but it makes tactical sense that team pressing and closing down should be the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacanda2 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Tank's houg...if u want u can e mail me your tactic with the amc..i would like to' test it and help you. Wacanda2@tin.it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Yeah,so its the same as the defensive line of the team. Im not saying its going to work, ive just started using it, but it makes tactical sense that team pressing and closing down should be the same. Yes i agree, I'm testing it on my 4-1-2-1-2 tactic with Montipeller the predicted to finish 19th i haven't signed anyone so it'll be a good test, I beat PSG in my first game 3-0 there predicted to finish 4th so it's a good start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 hey hough when you release the 4-1-2-1-2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 When it's done ffs. Buy some patience people :/. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 hey hough when you release the 4-1-2-1-2? Not till a few days, I haven't been testing as much as i should have been but i'm back on it now so hopefully not too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 ok thank's hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie 78 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Yeah,so its the same as the defensive line of the team. Im not saying its going to work, ive just started using it, but it makes tactical sense that team pressing and closing down should be the same. LOL i cant believe your trying to tell Mr Hough how to make tactics, sorry but your an amateur compared to him,im sure Mr Hough doesn't need your help to make great tactics. Looking forward to the 41212 pitty we cant have a wingers tactic though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 LOL i cant believe your trying to tell Mr Hough how to make tactics, sorry but your an amateur compared to him,im sure Mr Hough doesn't need your help to make great tactics.Looking forward to the 41212 pitty we cant have a wingers tactic though. sorry but this is ridiculous and uncalled for, JP is a moderator for FM-Base and is a fantastic tactic maker and well respected by alot of people, He has been making tactics for alot longer than i have been that's a fact. If your gonna post Siht then don't post on my threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 LOL i cant believe your trying to tell Mr Hough how to make tactics, sorry but your an amateur compared to him,im sure Mr Hough doesn't need your help to make great tactics.Looking forward to the 41212 pitty we cant have a wingers tactic though. Go back where you came from mate,shame you say it to JP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Hahaha I laughed hard. You don't even know kiddo who JP is. He made Clough tactics for FM2009 and FM2010. He is well known on FM scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 LOL i cant believe your trying to tell Mr Hough how to make tactics, sorry but your an amateur compared to him,im sure Mr Hough doesn't need your help to make great tactics.Looking forward to the 41212 pitty we cant have a wingers tactic though. Cheers for that mate. What with you,someone else having a go at my punctuation and a mod calling me a chump,these forums have certainly opened my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Cheers for that mate.What with you,someone else having a go at my punctuation and a mod calling me a chump,these forums have certainly opened my eyes. They can be strange at times JP, I prefer the FM-Base forum because people seem laid back on that one, on this forum i feel like i have to meet deadlines with the tactics if i say i would release on a certain day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 They can be strange at times JP, I prefer the FM-Base forum because people seem laid back on that one, on this forum i feel like i have to meet deadlines with the tactics if i say i would release on a certain day. Probably would be wise not to give release dates,keep it quiet then release out of the blue. I learnt that lesson a while ago. I gave into pressure and ended up releasing tactics i wasn't really happy with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Woody Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 So far it seems to be working better with closing down of the players level with the defensive line of the team. Scores so far: Arsenal H 3-0 win Chelsea A 1-1 Bolton H 3-0 win Bayern Munich H 4-0 win Sporting Lisbon A 3-0 win Sunderland A 4-1 win Stoke H 1-0 win Sporting Lisbon H 3-0 win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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