cragswfc Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 What are you supposed to do with the player filters in the OP?Is there a version that uses wingers? tere is'int 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnbob Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 @glynnbobsecond link from a bottom in the OP cheers mate nice one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 What are you supposed to do with the player filters in the OP?Is there a version that uses wingers? Mr Hough I think will be creating a wingers tactic, after his latest tactic release. Yet I think he will have a break, before starting making it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Mr Hough I think will be creating a wingers tactic, after his latest tactic release. Yet I think he will have a break, before starting making it Cool. What about the player filters in the OP? Where do I put them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Cool.What about the player filters in the OP? Where do I put them? Sorry mate, I don't use them, I prefer to find talent and hope for the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 C:\Users\ZXZXZ\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2010\filters -> win7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I'm probably being a bit thick here, but I'm completely confused. What am I supposed to do with the player filters in the OP? In what way do they tell me what stats I need for each position? Wouldn't it just be a whole lot easier if the stats were written down? @gcs - I use vista32 not win7, but I looked in the documents fm10 folder and there is nothing there about filters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachya Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I'm probably being a bit thick here, but I'm completely confused.What am I supposed to do with the player filters in the OP? In what way do they tell me what stats I need for each position? Wouldn't it just be a whole lot easier if the stats were written down? @gcs - I use vista32 not win7, but I looked in the documents fm10 folder and there is nothing there about filters. I had the same problem. If you'll save a custom filter in-game first, that'll create the "filters" folder...or you could just create a new folder a name it "filters" at the location gcs mentioned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassounds Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I've made some changes to the original 4-1-2-1-2 by Mr Hough and thought I'd share. A few disclaimers if you will: I'm new to FM (like 2 weeks), I used Inter as my team which is an obvious advantage. The changes I made: FBs: increase passing to one notch above center point (so it is mixed). Decrease crossing to "rarely". Note that I don't change the Run From Deep as mentioned in other tweaks. I find this causes the FBs to act like wingers. DM: Increase passing style to first notch of direct, and increase closing down by 3 notches as described in prior tweaks. CMs: The CMr has passing 4 notches into Direct, through balls to Often, and creative freedom up 3 notches. The CMl has passing at first notch of direct, mentality UP one notch, Long Shots "sometimes". AM: Has roaming "on", mentality down one notch, passing to center of slider (mixed). STr: Mentality increased two notches. STl: Rund from deep "sometimes", passing to first notch of "direct", creative freedom up to first notch of "Much". Teamwise: tempo and width are decreased 3 notches. The result is more a passing game, and I've trained and selected my players to have high passing and creativity, and higher "tactics" in general, especially CMr, AM, and to some extent the FBs. Depending on the opponent, I sometimes switch the DM to more of an anchor man approach (so more defensive mentality, less creative freedom, short passing). Results are pretty good. Not sure what screen to post for results, but- In two and a half seasons, I've won 120 games and lost 0, drawn 8. Scored 353 goals, conceded 53. I got an offer to manage Brazil- not sure what that means but seemed cool. Also got manager of the year for first 2 years (year three not finished). Fun stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 Thanks for the input i'll try this out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THFC_100 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Results are pretty good. Not sure what screen to post for results, but- In two and a half seasons, I've won 120 games and lost 0, drawn 8. Scored 353 goals, conceded 53. I got an offer to manage Brazil- not sure what that means but seemed cool. Also got manager of the year for first 2 years (year three not finished). Fun stuff. You say results were pretty good, There phenomenal i will also give it a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassounds Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Thanks for the input i'll try this out. Thanks for making a great tactic for me to try making some small tweaks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2vA Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've won 120 games and lost 0, drawn 8. Scored 353 goals, conceded 53. holy ****! these are some impressive results mate, wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Mr Hough How are things going defensively in your Everton/Tottenham saves? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighy Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 can you upload the tactic mate well good results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiv3dd3r Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hi, may I have the tactic with the AMC. I can't seem to find it. I only got the tactic with 3 ST upfront. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Mr HoughHow are things going defensively in your Everton/Tottenham saves? Steve Not good to be honest no matter what i do what i change in the team settings or the player settings my Fullbacks still go forward it's incredibly annoying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdA Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Not good to be honest no matter what i do what i change in the team settings or the player settings my Fullbacks still go forward it's incredibly annoying How about releasing it, have people test it in various ways and have their try at making it better defensively? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Not good to be honest no matter what i do what i change in the team settings or the player settings my Fullbacks still go forward it's incredibly annoying The fullbacks should go forward in a diamond formation anyway, helping to provide a little width. If you mean they are attacking all the time, have you tried setting there marking to 'zonal'? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 The fullbacks should go forward in a diamond formation anyway, helping to provide a little width. If you mean they are attacking all the time, have you tried setting there marking to 'zonal'?Steve I have zonal marking man marking tight marking on tight marking off don't seem to make a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 How about releasing it, have people test it in various ways and have their try at making it better defensively? I'm doing the final test i will do on this version of it with everton i really hoped to release it today but it will be tommorrow now, 100% tomorrow though even if i'm not 100% happy i'll release it and try and work on it and release a updated version in the future Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Mr Hough You shouldn't release it until you are happy with it, as I would imagine you will start to get alot of people posting back here about how they "tried it for 3 games and lost them all when they are managing Man UTD and should of won all games 3-0+" Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simsejensen Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Release... It.. NAUW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev08 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Release...It.. NAUW he wont release it till tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_exit Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Why the link on the first page arent working anymore? I need description on the player and some of the tactics... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burty76 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 None of the links seem to be working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Mr Hough When you release the tactic will you be making a new thread for it? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 he said in early post he would Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've made some changes to the original 4-1-2-1-2 by Mr Hough and thought I'd share. A few disclaimers if you will: I'm new to FM (like 2 weeks), I used Inter as my team which is an obvious advantage.The changes I made: FBs: increase passing to one notch above center point (so it is mixed). Decrease crossing to "rarely". Note that I don't change the Run From Deep as mentioned in other tweaks. I find this causes the FBs to act like wingers. DM: Increase passing style to first notch of direct, and increase closing down by 3 notches as described in prior tweaks. CMs: The CMr has passing 4 notches into Direct, through balls to Often, and creative freedom up 3 notches. The CMl has passing at first notch of direct, mentality UP one notch, Long Shots "sometimes". AM: Has roaming "on", mentality down one notch, passing to center of slider (mixed). STr: Mentality increased two notches. STl: Rund from deep "sometimes", passing to first notch of "direct", creative freedom up to first notch of "Much". Teamwise: tempo and width are decreased 3 notches. The result is more a passing game, and I've trained and selected my players to have high passing and creativity, and higher "tactics" in general, especially CMr, AM, and to some extent the FBs. Depending on the opponent, I sometimes switch the DM to more of an anchor man approach (so more defensive mentality, less creative freedom, short passing). Results are pretty good. Not sure what screen to post for results, but- In two and a half seasons, I've won 120 games and lost 0, drawn 8. Scored 353 goals, conceded 53. I got an offer to manage Brazil- not sure what that means but seemed cool. Also got manager of the year for first 2 years (year three not finished). Fun stuff. I tired your suggested tweaks on the mr hough/jp woody 4-1-2-1-2 tactic and its working amazingly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitanywonder? Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I tired your suggested tweaks on the mr hough/jp woody 4-1-2-1-2 tactic and its working amazingly! can you post this tactic?? please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswibbs Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 yes please upload mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I tired your suggested tweaks on the mr hough/jp woody 4-1-2-1-2 tactic and its working amazingly! Agreed the tweak is fantastic! First 3 games: Arsenal 3-0 Sp*rs Arsenal 2-0 Man Utd Man Utd 1-1 Arsenal not bad considering they haven't had time to adjust. Well done sir! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burty76 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Links STILL not working. Are any of them uploaded anywhere else? Really want to use this tactic tonight but the links are useless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
internacional Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 the link http://www.filefront.com/16523081/Mr...-Nov-2009.tac/ is the problem , please fix or send to me thiagoyves@hotmail.com =D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswibbs Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 the link http://www.filefront.com/16523081/Mr...-Nov-2009.tac/ is the problem , please fix or send to me thiagoyves@hotmail.com =D is this the tweaks version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Real behanger Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 the link http://www.filefront.com/16523081/Mr...-Nov-2009.tac/ is the problem , please fix or send to me thiagoyves@hotmail.com =D It's on his way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
internacional Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 thanksss guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Filefront is down for maintenance and should be up within 24 hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2vA Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I tired your suggested tweaks on the mr hough/jp woody 4-1-2-1-2 tactic and its working amazingly! i've tried these also and yes, they are working exceptionally well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Macklam Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've made some changes to the original 4-1-2-1-2 by Mr Hough and thought I'd share. A few disclaimers if you will: I'm new to FM (like 2 weeks), I used Inter as my team which is an obvious advantage.The changes I made: FBs: increase passing to one notch above center point (so it is mixed). Decrease crossing to "rarely". Note that I don't change the Run From Deep as mentioned in other tweaks. I find this causes the FBs to act like wingers. DM: Increase passing style to first notch of direct, and increase closing down by 3 notches as described in prior tweaks. CMs: The CMr has passing 4 notches into Direct, through balls to Often, and creative freedom up 3 notches. The CMl has passing at first notch of direct, mentality UP one notch, Long Shots "sometimes". AM: Has roaming "on", mentality down one notch, passing to center of slider (mixed). STr: Mentality increased two notches. STl: Rund from deep "sometimes", passing to first notch of "direct", creative freedom up to first notch of "Much". Teamwise: tempo and width are decreased 3 notches. The result is more a passing game, and I've trained and selected my players to have high passing and creativity, and higher "tactics" in general, especially CMr, AM, and to some extent the FBs. Depending on the opponent, I sometimes switch the DM to more of an anchor man approach (so more defensive mentality, less creative freedom, short passing). Results are pretty good. Not sure what screen to post for results, but- In two and a half seasons, I've won 120 games and lost 0, drawn 8. Scored 353 goals, conceded 53. I got an offer to manage Brazil- not sure what that means but seemed cool. Also got manager of the year for first 2 years (year three not finished). Fun stuff. Is this the 4-1-2-1-2 you mention from this link http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/194951-Mr-Hough-10.3-Tactics?p=5553729&viewfull=1#post5553729 as the link in post #3142 is dead? Has anybody got this tactic or uploaded the "newer" 4-1-2-1-2 with tweeks as suggested by bassounds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassounds Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 The upload seems to be down, but using the final 4-1-2-1-2 released awhile back (and posted on the OP I believe), then applying the tweaks (its not too hard), and you should have it. While the tactic I posted on for Inter is still working great, I've been making small changes with the attack side of things, and therefore my small modifications to Mr. Hough's work are far from a complete tactic. I'm really just playing around and learning as I go. I also seem to think that things ought to be modified slightly based on your players; e.g. Eto (on inter) was injured for 4 months so I had to change a few things, but it turned out well- making the small tweaks is the fun part! I imagine a consensus of stiff will come together from Mr. Hough in due time. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestyle18 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Bassounds i got one issue ) CMs: The CMr has passing 4 notches into Direct... that means that i move the notch to direct and after that move it 4 notches to the right ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Macklam Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 The upload seems to be down, but using the final 4-1-2-1-2 released awhile back (and posted on the OP I believe), then applying the tweaks (its not too hard), and you should have it. While the tactic I posted on for Inter is still working great, I've been making small changes with the attack side of things, and therefore my small modifications to Mr. Hough's work are far from a complete tactic. I'm really just playing around and learning as I go. I also seem to think that things ought to be modified slightly based on your players; e.g. Eto (on inter) was injured for 4 months so I had to change a few things, but it turned out well- making the small tweaks is the fun part! I imagine a consensus of stiff will come together from Mr. Hough in due time. cheers Thanks for the reply bassounds. There is no link to the 4-1-2-1-2 in the OP and as stated Fileplanet is down. If neither the original 4-1-2-1-2 or the now newly tweeked version can be upload elsewhere then we'll have to wait until tomorrow when Fileplanet is fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks for the reply bassounds.There is no link to the 4-1-2-1-2 in the OP and as stated Fileplanet is down. If neither the original 4-1-2-1-2 or the now newly tweeked version can be upload elsewhere then we'll have to wait until tomorrow when Fileplanet is fixed. Are you after the mr hough and JP final 4-1-2-1-2 tactic? if so, i think i've go that one somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpecial1 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Here is the original 4-1-2-1-2 mate http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23470806/Mr_Hough_JP_Woody_4-1-2-1-2_Final_Everton_Mar_2010_.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Here is the original 4-1-2-1-2 matehttp://www.speedyshare.com/files/23470806/Mr_Hough_JP_Woody_4-1-2-1-2_Final_Everton_Mar_2010_.tac Are you sure this is right? I thought the original 4-1-2-1-2 was a classic tactic and not a wizard one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo future Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Not good to be honest no matter what i do what i change in the team settings or the player settings my Fullbacks still go forward it's incredibly annoying just a suggestion.....have you considered no full backs and a 3 man defence (with width set to wide) , and to DMs with lots of closing down???? That will keep 5 men back at all times alleviating the problem with the full backs, and DMS should help cover opponents wingers. You will lose a bit going forward though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolompaar Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 In my opinion 2 DMs and 2MCs in the same formation wont work because they are too close to each other. In defense they cover too little space for 4 and in offense the DMS have very limited passing opportunities and get low ratings. Also with no wide players at all the AI will leave their wingers and fullbacks forward all time with no defensive duty so they can score more easily. The idea did work though iin old CM/FM games a few years ago but they added this wing exploit to the engine so now fullbacks are a must IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo0707 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 i am unable to choose roles with these tactics. it seems to be set to only advanced and cant be changed to basic. any idea how? i just downloaded the tactic on the first page. if not possible, can someone list down the roles for the 4-1-2-3 formation? thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 IMO Dave, you shouldn't release the tactic today if you aren't 100% happy with it. Don't let people pressure you into releasing it if it's not ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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