Justice96 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Who qualifies if this happens? http://www.uploadgeek.com/share-A1ED_4C0BEB6F.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 If what happens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 More info would be helpful, it what happens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice96 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 Can you's not see the picture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett.spurs Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Nope . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 No we's can't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice96 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 I have added a link now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Ah, the identical records, identical head to head question... Depends on the tournament. Sometimes a drawing of lots, sometimes they look at fewest yellow cards or most corners or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 6, 2010 Administrators Share Posted June 6, 2010 Lots drawn, as the pic says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Imagine going out via a lots draw, jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Shame they don't set a specific date for an extra game, like in the old times, it wouldn't even be that hard, just make the tournament last 3-4 extra days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samb_95 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 i think a good idea if this scenario occurs would be to give the team with the highest ranking to go through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 That would be an awful idea . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 i think a good idea if this scenario occurs would be to give the team with the highest ranking to go through Awful idea. It's a disgrace that there is seeding in football as it is, but to do it like that would be a shocking state - saying that FIFA would probably change the rules at the last minute to do that anyway - it's not like they don't have previous of changing the rules near the end of an event... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blurps11 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 i think a good idea if this scenario occurs would be to give the team with the highest ranking to go through FIFA rankings have a lot of inherent issues, especially when it comes to comparing teams from different continental federations. Using them to decide who advances to the knockout stages would be extremely unfair to teams not from Europe or the Americas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I do not know if this applies in the World Cup, but for Euro 2008, if the 2 tied teams were the ones playing against each other in the final group game, there would have be a penalty shootout to decide who went through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Should be drawing of lots, happened in England's group in 1990, Dutch and Ireland had identical records in all regards and lots were drawn. Ireland ended up with Romania in the next round and went through on pens and Dutch went out to Germany IIRC including the infamous 'spitting' incident! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qolumbo Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 If only Egypt had equalised against England that time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirZ Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Should be penalties imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Ricardo Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I'd do it by most shots on target or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Should be drawing of lots, happened in England's group in 1990, Dutch and Ireland had identical records in all regards and lots were drawn. Ireland ended up with Romania in the next round and went through on pens and Dutch went out to Germany IIRC including the infamous 'spitting' incident! Your are correct. In that time, the best ranked No.3 (the 4 best No.3 of out 6 groups advanced to the next round) of the groups advanced, so, beside us getting the Germans, not really a problem, since we got into the next round, now, were the No.3's are eliminated it is much more sick to go outand back home on a lot draw, while the other advances to the round of 16, in this case a replay would be better as others mentioned in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wallin Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Lots drawn, as the pic says. Yea, don't see why he asked really? I do not know if this applies in the World Cup, but for Euro 2008, if the 2 tied teams were the ones playing against each other in the final group game, there would have be a penalty shootout to decide who went through. That is still in place for Euro 2012 too. As long as they are the only teams that are tied of course. UEFA uses the following (if points, goal difference and goals scored can't separate teams): f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I, paragraph 1.2.2); g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament); h) drawing of lots. while FIFA only has: g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee. Should be penalties imo. Not really practical if the teams isn't playing each other in the last match or if there is several teams with similar records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 surely f will separate them pretty much 99.99% of the time? I'd have the fair play record above that tbh. Then I think if they drew against each other in the group game, but couldn't have pens because it wasn't the last game, then give it to whoever scored first in that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeLikeFM Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Your are correct. In that time, the best ranked No.3 (the 4 best No.3 of out 6 groups advanced to the next round) of the groups advanced, so, beside us getting the Germans, not really a problem, since we got into the next round, now, were the No.3's are eliminated it is much more sick to go outand back home on a lot draw, while the other advances to the round of 16, in this case a replay would be better as others mentioned in the thread. Ye but you scored that ridiculously lucky header against us in Euro 88' and went on to win it so it was revenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wallin Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 surely f will separate them pretty much 99.99% of the time? I'd have the fair play record above that tbh. I would assume so but it is textbook UEFA to cover their bases on procedural issues. Of course it is textbook FIFA not to (as per the N Korean striker/keeper issue most recently ). Then I think if they drew against each other in the group game, but couldn't have pens because it wasn't the last game, then give it to whoever scored first in that game. Firstly that only works when it's a 2 team situation and secondly I'd say that playing deciders that you don't know is a decider at the time you play it is a very bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Your are correct. In that time, the best ranked No.3 (the 4 best No.3 of out 6 groups advanced to the next round) of the groups advanced, so, beside us getting the Germans, not really a problem, since we got into the next round, now, were the No.3's are eliminated it is much more sick to go outand back home on a lot draw, while the other advances to the round of 16, in this case a replay would be better as others mentioned in the thread. Sure, you and Ireland both got through, not as bad as if one of you was eliminated but they got Romania and you got Germany and went out, I know which I would have preferred! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micado Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Sure, you and Ireland both got through, not as bad as if one of you was eliminated but they got Romania and you got Germany and went out, I know which I would have preferred! Yeah agreed, but at least we had the chance to play for it after the lot draw, now, if you would loose the lot draw you are immediately out of the competition, and yes, I would have preferred Romania over Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcantona7 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Firstly that only works when it's a 2 team situation and secondly I'd say that playing deciders that you don't know is a decider at the time you play it is a very bad idea. I agree but is that not true of using a head to head comparison too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Lots. Amazing. And, of course, you know this is going to happen now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilyoshi Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 What the heck is drawing of lots?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sandman Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 pick a daisy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wallin Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I agree but is that not true of using a head to head comparison too? What? Both the FIFA and the UEFA systems can handle 2,3 or 4 team situations, yours can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readingfanman Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 What the heck is drawing of lots?! Sort of explains itself really. One team gets drawn to go through, and the other would be knocked out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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