knap Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Tatox These are my tactic settings Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 TatoxThese are my tactic settings Uploaded with ImageShack.us team mentality, creative freedom, passing style, tempo, closing down, are the same of devasto like personal instruction of wings and forwards; other role, only difference is mentality... knap, i'm sorry, but this is the truth!!! you have only modified some aspect of my tactic like width and defensive line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Tatox Mentality - Not Same CF - Mr H Piledriver Passing - Mr H Piledriver Tempo Not Same Width - Not Same CD - Not Same DL - Not Same The problem is that you may have copied Mr H Piledriver tactic Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 This is your original tactic, and I believe Mr H relesed his piledriver before your updated tactic. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiept Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Knap, i believe Satox´s tweaked tactic by Sir Alex was released much before hough´s. I´m not saying that anyone has copyed from anyone but Il devasto tweaked by sir alex was released be4, and hough´s made a change in his original tac, wich made the Hough´s piledriver much like satorox´s. But again i know that ur tac was based in hough´s, mate u would never copy any tactic, u´re a legend. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Knap, i believe Satox´s tweaked tactic by Sir Alex was released much before hough´s.I´m not saying that anyone has copyed from anyone but Il devasto tweaked by sir alex was released be4, and hough´s made a change in his original tac, wich made the Hough´s piledriver much like satorox´s. But again i know that ur tac was based in hough´s, mate u would never copy any tactic, u´re a legend. cheers yes defo agree with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 This is your original tactic, and I believe Mr H relesed his piledriver before your updated tactic. Uploaded with ImageShack.us hey knap... this isn't my original tactic my original tactic is: and my tactic, if you watch date of release, you can see that is older than piledriver!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 You will need to sort this out with Mr H as my tactic, as credited in title, uses the piledriver as a base. Your tactic Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiept Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 You will need to sort this out with Mr H as my tactic, as credited in title, uses the piledriver as a base.Your tactic Uploaded with ImageShack.us like i said mate, ur is based in hough´s wich is very much like storox´s. And Satorox released his much be4 hough´s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 You will need to sort this out with Mr H as my tactic, as credited in title, uses the piledriver as a base.Your tactic Uploaded with ImageShack.us knap, you are taking all tactic that aren't mine... my tactics are: "il devasto" and "il devasto parma version" the tactic that you are posted is "il devasto modern"... my tactics are in first post of this topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 tatox i have a quistion for you about this tactic with palermo you are using. i play with palermo, but can't get this tactic to work with them. are u win the serie a first season or what? plz help me, i get angry because can't get it work with them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share Posted March 14, 2011 tatox i have a quistion for you about this tactic with palermo you are using.i play with palermo, but can't get this tactic to work with them. are u win the serie a first season or what? plz help me, i get angry because can't get it work with them! i've released the tactic before patch 11.3, so the results was referred at 11.2.1... i'm working on some innovation tweaks that improve the tactic on the new patch!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 okay beacause i tried on the new patch, but not working optimal. I hope u got it stick together m8 but u have 2 tactic on palermo, this 11.3, how is that working? just opload the tac when u get finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stribes Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 tatox i am trying your tactic for last patch and it work really well for the moment...9 games 6w 3d against inter,fiore and catania(second in A...2015...) try to switch amr/l to cd/s with attacking movement to often(scorribande offensive,non so come sia tradotto)... do you have any suggestion for the defence? i passaggi filtranti centrali sono micidiali... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share Posted March 14, 2011 tatox i am trying your tactic for last patch and it work really well for the moment...9 games 6w 3d against inter,fiore and catania(second in A...2015...)try to switch amr/l to cd/s with attacking movement to often(scorribande offensive,non so come sia tradotto)... do you have any suggestion for the defence? i passaggi filtranti centrali sono micidiali... are you italian??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stribes Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadsawee79 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 TATOX could you please post the 11.3 tactic link ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nt3s3 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 TATOX quando uscirà la tattica riadattata per la patch 11.3 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share Posted March 14, 2011 TATOX quando uscirà la tattica riadattata per la patch 11.3 ? i think that at the end of this week i'll release a first version... i could say that it, in first time, is a 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I am using the "4-2-4 devasto_defense" in the 11.3 patch with my Inter squad and it's just demolishing teams apart. Fiorentina (2nd place and by far 2nd best team in Serie A atm) lost 7-0 vs my team, just incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I am using the "4-2-4 devasto_defense" in the 11.3 patch with my Inter squad and it's just demolishing teams apart. Fiorentina (2nd place and by far 2nd best team in Serie A atm) lost 7-0 vs my team, just incredible. You mean this one? 4-2-4 devasto_defense (Louletano, Mai 2013).tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_R.U.F.C Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Which is the most updated, and best working for 11.3? There is loads and i am unsure to which one will be the best to test out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 You mean this one? 4-2-4 devasto_defense (Louletano, Mai 2013).tac Yes, that one. I got it on a portuguese forum. I remembered the 1st devasto (that I got from this thread) wasn't really working. Gave that one (devasto_defense Louletano etc..) a shot and it's really working. Beautiful football, loads of goals and super tight defense. My squad is good but not super excellent and my wingers suck as I was using sherica before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Interesting, thx, I'll give it a try, managing Inter as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 lobsman What OI, match preparation and pitch size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Interesting, thx, I'll give it a try, managing Inter as well Note that I'm on 2015/16 season, although some players are the same, most of the squad is different from the 2011 one. lobsman What OI, match preparation and pitch size? No OI. I only use OI's when my assistant manager's tactical knowledge is above 15, when it is I ask him to do them. Pitch size I don't really recall, but I think it is the normal size. Not biggest nor smallest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej9 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 4-2-4 devasto_defense (Louletano, Mai 2013).tac Are you doing anything additional to get the tactic working? It's rubbish with Liverpool. We just concede constantly but rarely score. Even bottom teams are averaging upwards of 30 shots against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Are you doing anything additional to get the tactic working? It's rubbish with Liverpool. We just concede constantly but rarely score. Even bottom teams are averaging upwards of 30 shots against us. I've just started using it and it works great, maybe lobsman can give u better insight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Are you doing anything additional to get the tactic working? It's rubbish with Liverpool. We just concede constantly but rarely score. Even bottom teams are averaging upwards of 30 shots against us. Nope, everything as it came. Maybe I'm getting lucky, but I doubt it. Games with devasto: http://i.imgur.com/Zz1FK.jpg Stats vs Fiore: http://i.imgur.com/Ug2ge.jpg Stats vs Catania: http://i.imgur.com/MEDXJ.jpg Typical starting eleven: http://i.imgur.com/edOOj.jpg Tactic: http://www.duckload.com/download/3722921/4-2-4_devasto_defense_Louletano_Mai_2013_.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej9 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I'll keep working it into the team, thanks mate! Your results are awesome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 First of all i wanna say this is good tactic but have some problems with defence and middlefields like fabregas, yaya, moussa sissoko, kaka and other good players will not play in best form (scoring) ...im not using things tactic but i saw a lot of post so i wanted to help...I start new season with birmingham and playing friendly`s i saw some problems so i modify it...ITS FOR PATCH 10.3 modifys: Defence is much better CB scores a lot from corners and free kicks...but must have good jump 16+ and heading 16+ (put your best CB on Right position) Middlefield in standard version have a lot of assistance but i modify so they can also score from distance. Considered goals from distance is minimized but you must understude that you must have good CB especially SPEED AND CONCETRATION couze with good concetration they will have less mistakes in defence. Wingers in this modification have very very important role...they will roam a lot and when middle of field is blocked for CF`s they will try to find space from side with high rate by running around and trying to hand off they keepers. WIth standard things that your wingers must have to be good try find with good Pace. Corners attacking: is set for cross far post so your Right CB attack far post and your Right CF will stand on far post...put RCB with good jumping and heading skills and RCF same. and you will see your CB score 10+ for season In this version you will not maybe score like in standard a lot of goals but you will still score and minimize your considered goal. And you will get less cards. And now most importand thing: Oposition Instruction and TEAM TALK Dont use OI Dont use Target Man Team Talk: For Funs ...always on start if you have good result use: encoruge or i dont expect your ...to drop if its draw on half use : im dissapoiting or im angry if your losing use: Im angry if your losing after using IM ANGRY wait 10 min in game and see if your players ration rises ...if some players rises ration they your team talk was sucesses and they morale is high so let that player still play...but if some players dont rise ration or even got lower then they moral is bad and replace them...THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT with Birmingham on first season i finished 2nd ...no new players 2nd season i finished 2nd and lost in semi final Champions Cup on away goal....only loaned Aaron Ramsey from Arsenal. So this statics is not so bad with Birmingham players couze they dont have good bench So if you focus buying better and better players from season to season you will have a lot sucesses...if you already playing with good team i garantue good resault over season if you do all things i sayed Give time for this tactic especially if you buyed a lot of new players (my sugestion buy only 1-3 new players over season and for start use them like substitution till you see if they gel in team - have good ration and made little mistakes)...best if you use this tactic from start of season with friendly matches so your team gel in My english sux but i hope i helped http://www.4shared.com/file/1AKQfbxj/KiRkov_nacin__AC_Milan_May_201.html from fm-base Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_rigg Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 above tactic is a modern tactic. original tactic was a classic??? classic tactics are much better! but good effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 above tactic is a modern tactic. original tactic was a classic???classic tactics are much better! but good effort. Convert it to classic then. It won't change anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyhead Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yes, that one. I got it on a portuguese forum. I remembered the 1st devasto (that I got from this thread) wasn't really working. Gave that one (devasto_defense Louletano etc..) a shot and it's really working.Beautiful football, loads of goals and super tight defense. My squad is good but not super excellent and my wingers suck as I was using sherica before. I think alot of the succsess is down to the fact your playing as inter with some very good players, I doubt you would achieve anything like that with a team that is not expected a top 6 finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Tatox, any news on getting this beast to destroy on 11.3 like it did on 11.2? really hope so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spline Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I like this tactic.Hope modified version for 11.3 will be soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 from fm-base got humped 8-2 by bolton using this one, best defeat ever lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTGB Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 My Antwerp version seems to be still working in the new patch. Only thing I changed was the attacking corners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-RELIGION Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Nope, everything as it came. Maybe I'm getting lucky, but I doubt it.Games with devasto: http://i.imgur.com/Zz1FK.jpg Stats vs Fiore: http://i.imgur.com/Ug2ge.jpg Stats vs Catania: http://i.imgur.com/MEDXJ.jpg Typical starting eleven: http://i.imgur.com/edOOj.jpg Tactic: http://www.duckload.com/download/3722921/4-2-4_devasto_defense_Louletano_Mai_2013_.tac Can you upload in another server? in this the download never starts... keeps waiting and waiting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I am asking two questions please...I am managing manchester united, what devasto tactic is best for 11.2 and which devasto tactic is best for 11.3 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjana Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 "you play by turning your pink over every single game (45 min and 45 min)" Might be i am bit slow but what do you mean by this Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 TATOX I've been using your devasto euilibrium for 11.3 with some great matches but one of the biggest problems was when the opposition defense gets the ball, when they put it out after a cross from my wingers, or long ball for my forwards - the 2 CM's just get left too forward and the opposition attackers get the ball too easily, so I put one of the CM's to DM and also changed his mentality to full fefensive, changed his tackling to hard and also did that(regarding tackling) for the other CM. The DM covering now is just GREAT ! He's great for cover and getting loose balls, concedeing much less goals now. Another change I did was putting my wingers cross balls to often and to cross to mixed, and also to cross from mixed. Why? Because you want them to put many crosses in, they are wingers after all, and a good cross which is catched by a striker is always a dangerous situation right? Many times with my teams scoring goals I noticed that crosses before byline are also veery dangerous, not deep crosses but something between deep and byline, the winger crosses and the other one scores, expecially working well in counters. And the last thing I did was moved the CM to AM because I have Sneijder there and changed a couple of his individual settings, and the result is also great, he positions himself in the holes between opposition defense and midfield and gets all those balls which would be lost when sometimes your defenders send long ball to the head of strikers, this way they give the ball to him. So now I have 2 formations, one with DM CM and the other with DM AM . Both are working great, still can't say which one is better Add this is what I did to Valencia away in my last match (with the AM formation) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeJebi Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I forgot to mention , only changes I made to team instructions - ticked off target man, ticked counter, and that's pretty much it I think, below are team intructions, on the right AM individual settings, and below wingers settings If someone ask later for an upload no problem but only after tatox gives his permission Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Loads of people have uploaded their tweaked versions, I think you'll be fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 I've been away a bit 'of time because of college and I found this version(ON FMBASE) that seems to promise great things http://www.multiupload.com/C3P3PC7UM0 ...I want to say thanks to my friend zizou for these changes!!! I will do everything possible to try it as soon as possible and post it in the main post and remember that "il devasto""is the only way to pave the opponents... BEWARE OF IMITATIONS!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TATOX Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 TATOX I've been using your devasto euilibrium for 11.3 with some great matches but one of the biggest problems was when the opposition defense gets the ball, when they put it out after a cross from my wingers, or long ball for my forwards - the 2 CM's just get left too forward and the opposition attackers get the ball too easily, so I put one of the CM's to DM and also changed his mentality to full fefensive, changed his tackling to hard and also did that(regarding tackling) for the other CM.The DM covering now is just GREAT ! He's great for cover and getting loose balls, concedeing much less goals now. Another change I did was putting my wingers cross balls to often and to cross to mixed, and also to cross from mixed. Why? Because you want them to put many crosses in, they are wingers after all, and a good cross which is catched by a striker is always a dangerous situation right? Many times with my teams scoring goals I noticed that crosses before byline are also veery dangerous, not deep crosses but something between deep and byline, the winger crosses and the other one scores, expecially working well in counters. And the last thing I did was moved the CM to AM because I have Sneijder there and changed a couple of his individual settings, and the result is also great, he positions himself in the holes between opposition defense and midfield and gets all those balls which would be lost when sometimes your defenders send long ball to the head of strikers, this way they give the ball to him. So now I have 2 formations, one with DM CM and the other with DM AM . Both are working great, still can't say which one is better Add this is what I did to Valencia away in my last match (with the AM formation) mmm... could you send me this two variants of "devasto"??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vans fang Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 so,It is to fit the unfamous club,and where I can put it?I am a beginner.Thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
churkstopi Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 opps,what's OI ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigi Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 so,It is to fit the unfamous club,and where I can put it?I am a beginner.Thank you very much. put here: My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2011\tactics opps,what's OI ? OI - Opposition Instructions btw. this zizou's version is realy good , the only working tactic for me so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadsawee79 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 TATOX I've been using your devasto euilibrium for 11.3 with some great matches but one of the biggest problems was when the opposition defense gets the ball, when they put it out after a cross from my wingers, or long ball for my forwards - the 2 CM's just get left too forward and the opposition attackers get the ball too easily, so I put one of the CM's to DM and also changed his mentality to full fefensive, changed his tackling to hard and also did that(regarding tackling) for the other CM.The DM covering now is just GREAT ! He's great for cover and getting loose balls, concedeing much less goals now. Another change I did was putting my wingers cross balls to often and to cross to mixed, and also to cross from mixed. Why? Because you want them to put many crosses in, they are wingers after all, and a good cross which is catched by a striker is always a dangerous situation right? Many times with my teams scoring goals I noticed that crosses before byline are also veery dangerous, not deep crosses but something between deep and byline, the winger crosses and the other one scores, expecially working well in counters. And the last thing I did was moved the CM to AM because I have Sneijder there and changed a couple of his individual settings, and the result is also great, he positions himself in the holes between opposition defense and midfield and gets all those balls which would be lost when sometimes your defenders send long ball to the head of strikers, this way they give the ball to him. So now I have 2 formations, one with DM CM and the other with DM AM . Both are working great, still can't say which one is better Add this is what I did to Valencia away in my last match (with the AM formation) Could you please upload the tactics ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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