Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Mr Hough 11.2 4-1-1-2-2 Winger Tactic and Discussion. Been trying to create a Winger tactic for a while now i think i have finally mastered it. The problems i had been having was in defence as my team where leaking like a siv, I tried mainly common sense to figure out my problem, you see i was always thinking that you had to be more attacking with the sliders to get a better response from my players defensively, That didn't work so i tried more defensive not on the mentality on the closing down and it made my team so much more of a unit at the back. In attack it's as strong as you'd expect from one of my tactics. In the modified i tried to keep it simple, Just wanting my midfield to recycle possession and play the simple ball instead of going all out to be attacking, I don't need that with the 4 attacking players up front i have so the midfield play very much a support role. When i first set out trying to create this tactic i did so with an idea in my head of how i wanted my team to play, The idea was that my team plays attractive free flowing football with the cautiousness that you need to have a great defence. Now let me tell you it's alot easier than it sounds believe me. I think i have managed to do it though in this 4-1-1-2-2. I have had Various Success, Huddersfield has been my main Testing Ground, I wanted to test with a side that has wingers in it and was a decent side without me having to make any transfers, In fact i didn't make any at all during this test with Huddersfield, The success that i have achieved with them in the games that i have played has been outstanding. Here are some screenshots of my Success so far. Player Requirements. Keeper - Any Decent Keeper will be great. Fullbacks - Heading - Tackling - Positioning - Pace - Marking - Anticipation Optional - Team Work - Work Rate - Strength - Composure - Determination Centre Backs - Heading - Tackling - Positioning - Pace - Marking - Anticipation Optional - Strength - Composure - Determination - Bravery Central Midfielder - Passing - Work Rate - Team Work - Strength - Determination - Marking - Tackling Optional - Off the ball - Creativity - Stamina - First Touch - Heading Wingers - Dribbling - Flair - Agility - Technique - Pace - Finishing - Creativity Optional - Crossing - First Touch - Passing - Decisions - Off The Ball - Composure Strikers - Finishing - Composure - Technique - Decisions - First Touch - Off The Ball - Pace Optional - Flair - Passing - Creativity - Anticipation - Determination. Select all the Strikers in your First Team Squad as Target men, Regardless if they play all the time or not still select them. Team Talks - Use whichever you feel is working for you, I genrally ask my Assistant. Match Prep - Use Team blend to get the Fluid Levels, Once reached If you have a great defence use Attacking Movement- If you have a great attack use Defensive Positioning. Opposition Instructions - I don't use any at all Training - Use one you have been using, I haven't been using any during the testing of this tactic. Pitch Size - Minimum Corners - Your best header with good Jumping and Bravery Stats in the Left Defender position - In swinging Corners - Right foot left Corner - Left foot right Corner. There is the Tactic Link. http://www.filefront.com/17853597/Mr Hough FM11.2 Unbeaten Tactic (Tottenham, Nov 2010).tac Don't forget to Add me on facebook if you need help about tactics. http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Dave-Hough/723618006 *************************************************************************************** Here is Steve's Updated More defensive Version and the Tweaks that he made to get it this way. The changes I made: AML and AMR become ML and MR. All passing increased by two notches. Closing down radically altered. Everything increased to get my players behaving like wild animals. Tackling to normal for GK. DR, DL, MCL and MCR changed from man to zonal marking. ML and MR changed to man marking. Team CF decreased by 1 notch. Team passing increased by 7 notches. Team tempo increased by eight notches. Team closing down increased by 1 notch. Team timewasting increased by 1 notch. Team Defensive line increased by 5 notches. Lots of changes to set piece instructions that better fit my players, are defnsively sound/offer more attacking options/offer chance of a counter attack. http://www.filefront.com/17865704/Chelsea-2-Chelsea-Jul-2010.tac/ ******************************************************************************************************************************* I have been playing around with this tactic now to try and make it more defensive without losing any of the attacking ability, It had been hard trying to balance the 2 but i think i have got it as far as i can. Now i have only tested this tactic with 2 teams - Everton in a full on career game where i only made 3 signings all in attack 2 on loan and 1 on a free so basicly the same squad as you would have normally and also tested for 10 games with Tottenham too - Also with no signings just the default squad With Everton i went Unbeaten for the entire league season with i think is an Incredible success. Here are some screens of that season - The tactic itself and also one from my Tottenham save. Use all the same instructions as my previous tactics Here is the Tactic Link. http://www.mediafire.com/?vhlwd59869lrheh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaşar Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 yes I got it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKB Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 no tackling for central midfielders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalbajim Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ased Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Muchas Gracias amigo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Dave the target man was the left striker or right striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 look at the post - All strikers are target men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
casperpld Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes but we have to do a list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 look at the post - All strikers are target men I remember FM used to only "use" the first striker on the list if you put more than one person as a Target Man. When did it change? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 That´s what i want to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes but we have to do a list. Whichever one because i think why do you have to have just one Taget man - Why can't you have 2 or 3 thats why i want them all selected because i want them all to be my target men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 But just the first of the list was the target man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 I remember FM used to only "use" the first striker on the list if you put more than one person as a Target Man. When did it change? i'm not aware of it changing - I just tried it with both strikers one game and they played Excellent battering the oppositon so i kept it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks. i'm testing this in my Spurs team. First Game Chelsea 2x1 Spurs my team has 5ccc and chelsea 2. unlucky ? (concedeed a freekick goal,and lampard lost a penalty) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_barnes Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 So which is top of the list as that one will be the actual one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrier182 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 quality stuff!! Playing with huddersfield in championship second season. 3 games 3 wins! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 i'm not aware of it changing - I just tried it with both strikers one game and they played Excellent battering the oppositon so i kept it Eh what I mean is that if you put more than one striker as target man, the game will only use the first one on the list. If he's not playing, second will be used. If he's also not playing, game will use the third. I guess simply sorting them from best to worst would be the right thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 looks so good man,another great tactic . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Eh what I mean is that if you put more than one striker as target man, the game will only use the first one on the list. If he's not playing, second will be used. If he's also not playing, game will use the third.I guess simply sorting them from best to worst would be the right thing to do. whatever you wanna do mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulic5647 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 1st game was away vs roma, on the back of a 4.1 drubbin vs city (im united) i was worried so eagerly waited this release. followed the instructions 100%. won 4.0. 1st half was awesome, had 19 efforts to their 1. well done sir. will report back after a dozen games or so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotfleo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 this tactic its awesome...the other teams just shoot from outside all time and they will never score... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulic5647 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 lucaz.... ur tottenham. chelsea at home are formidable. the tactic needs time to gel, u had 5ccc vs there 2. good result. let it gel, get the right players and then see how you do my mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 im confused with this whole target man thing? are both strikers the target men? and what if you have a striker that can play on the wing and you put him there, then your winger will be a target man too:S? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Second game with the tactic is versus chelsea too in home. Petr Cech are the man of the match. Result - 2x2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Sutton Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 thanksss!!! mr hough! is this better then the other tatic? or should i stick with your old one. plz help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 gonna clear this up. My idea behind both players being target man is pretty simple really. If one striker has the ball the opposition will close him down then the striker will have to pass to a winger or midfielder, My theory was if both strikers are Target Men they will try and look for each other or creating more 1-2 chances and more shots on goal. That's it - It does work, just try it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Second game with the tactic is versus chelsea tooin home. Petr Cech are the man of the match. Result - 2x2 is there just you and Chelsea in this League mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 thanksss!!! mr hough! is this better then the other tatic? or should i stick with your old one. plz help try it and see, You might find it better you might not but i'd try it at least for 10 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 is there just you and Chelsea in this League mate? FIrst game is the cup second the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Finally mate. Going to give it a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 thanks mr.hough. so really we just need to make sure the two strikers playing are selected as target men? correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighy Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 hi Mr H any chance you can do some filters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 thanks mr.hough. so really we just need to make sure the two strikers playing are selected as target men? correct? pretty much yes - I just put all my strikers there, Saves time when making Subs and stuff like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I just didn't understand one thing - "Select all the Strikers in your First Team Squad as Target men, Regardless if they play all the time or not still select them." - How do I do that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 i'm unlucky third game x barcelona kkkk lost 4x1 champions cup group stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goblin Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 who do I set first as target man in the team instructions list ? The left or the right striker ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampalaea4 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I was waiting this tactic thanks I will keep the other one 4-1-2-3 as my second tactic The point is simple Depend the team Have available any time... Do I have good wingers?I ll use this, Do I have a lot of good strikers I use the other do I have my wingers injured? e.t.c I think both tactics are excellent.. depend on what you wanna play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YBlade Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Which part you don't understand? It's the classic way of tactic, like always. Set all strikers as targets and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Which part you don't understand? It's the classic way of tactic, like always. Set all strikers as targets and that's it. Oh,i was confused.I thought it was by the creator. Thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 please dont bite my head off lol here goes for the wingers as you have them cutting in does that mean right footed on left and left footed on right, or left on left right on right so they cut in on their natural foot, or doesnt it matter? i play the game with commentary just so i dont watch to see the kind of football is produced.... thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazz2509 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 please dont bite my head off lol here goes for the wingers as you have them cutting in does that mean right footed on left and left footed on right, or left on left right on right so they cut in on their natural foot, or doesnt it matter? i play the game with commentary just so i dont watch to see the kind of football is produced.... thanks. Try watching it then!! It's quite simple to see what they do if you weren't so lazy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacanda2 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 dave..we can all stop to play this game..because with your tactic is ridicolous easy. won away 8-1 at parma with fiorentina. incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 ooooh yeah, and for the match prep, once it has become fluid what do you set the workload as? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Try watching it then!! It's quite simple to see what they do if you weren't so lazy! wow im impressed you know me so well, how'd you know i was so lazy, why should i change the way i play my game, i was hoping that someone who wasnt a gob***** would answer, just the way they do all the other questions on here, so smart arse can you tell me the answer then PLEASE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goblin Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Can anyone please tell me which skin Mr.Hough is using at his screenshots ? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 stupid me sorry mate, let me rephrase that question, as im currently not playing the game at the moment and cant watch the game can you answer my question, many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Can anyone please tell me which skin Mr.Hough is using at his screenshots ?Cheers steklo 11 mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savell Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Dave you truly are a tactical legend! Love it man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ919 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Just got a massive result with my newly promoted Real Murcia team in the Liga Adelante - 3-1 against the might of Deportivo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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