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This is the first time I've used one of Mr Houghs tactics and its been very enjoyable! Had a fantastic first season with Col U and gained promotion to the Championship in style. (media Prediction 8th)

The season started off really well but i had a pretty bad run of form over Christmas. However, once i properly got to grips with the players needed we went on a brilliant 19 game winning streak up until the end of the season.

Goals conceded is definitely an issue but if you have decent quick front players you will score a hell of a lot!

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Jesus, give the guy a break, he no doubt has a life too people. He will upload when all is good and ready.

If I may, I am in no means bothered by when he realeases it as I know it's hard, but he did say today, and I am sure that a lot of people are very relient on this tactic, so you need to appriciate everyone's eagerness. As I am eager aswell, but I can hold in my expectation, but it's hard :)

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Mr. H, I really think this needs to be addressed.

You cant keep trying to wind the community up that follow your tactics. It's almost like you're trying to manipulate the community into a frenzy which isn't any good for anybody and the thread generally descends into a car crash when you do this. Is that what you want? You know that this happens as does anybody else who's posted in here for for a substantial amount of time. If you don't want this to happen, maybe you should make sure you have your dates right before announcing releases.

Now, I can understand we all have lives outside of FM but you doing this isn't a one off thing, is it? It's nearly every time and you know how impatient some of the SI/Mr. H forum dwellers can be, not to mention the disappointment it can cause for some people when it's not released when scheduled (this doesn't include me as I've just done the quadruple with your original tactic which I tweaked. Excellent tactic! I can share the tweaks if you, or anybody else is interested ;)). I'm not saying you should drop real life to fulfill what you said you would do, just be a little more tactful when you say you're going to release something.

Not sure if you noticed but there wasn't nearly as much frenzy when you made your announcement this time, which could mean that people are expecting it not to be released as they're used to this happening. It's like the boy who cried wolf scenario.

I'm not having a go at you as you can do what you like, it's just an observation and opinion on how you could improve on the thread and stop it descending into a car crash, as we all know it's done in the past when announcments have been made.

Oh and by the way, looking forward to testing the new tactic. :D

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Mr. H, I really think this needs to be addressed.

You cant keep trying to wind the community up that follow your tactics. It's almost like you're trying to manipulate the community into a frenzy which isn't any good for anybody and the thread generally descends into a car crash when you do this. Is that what you want? You know that this happens as does anybody else who's posted in here for for a substantial amount of time. If you don't want this to happen, maybe you should make sure you have your dates right before announcing releases.

Now, I can understand we all have lives outside of FM but you doing this isn't a one off thing, is it? It's nearly every time and you know how impatient some of the SI/Mr. H forum dwellers can be, not to mention the disappointment it can cause for some people when it's not released when scheduled (this doesn't include me as I've just done the quadruple with your original tactic which I tweaked. Excellent tactic! I can share the tweaks if you, or anybody else is interested ;)). I'm not saying you should drop real life to fulfill what you said you would do, just be a little more tactful when you say you're going to release something.

Not sure if you noticed but there wasn't nearly as much frenzy when you made your announcement this time, which could mean that people are expecting it not to be released as they're used to this happening. It's like the boy who cried wolf scenario.

I'm not having a go at you as you can do what you like, it's just an observation and opinion on how you could improve on the thread and stop it descending into a car crash, as we all know it's done in the past when announcments have been made.

Oh and by the way, looking forward to testing the new tactic. :D

I did plan on releasing the tactic last night - My son had my attention which i can't plan, I have now released the tactic in the Updated OP if you look

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Mr. H, I really think this needs to be addressed.

You cant keep trying to wind the community up that follow your tactics. It's almost like you're trying to manipulate the community into a frenzy which isn't any good for anybody and the thread generally descends into a car crash when you do this. Is that what you want? You know that this happens as does anybody else who's posted in here for for a substantial amount of time. If you don't want this to happen, maybe you should make sure you have your dates right before announcing releases.

Now, I can understand we all have lives outside of FM but you doing this isn't a one off thing, is it? It's nearly every time and you know how impatient some of the SI/Mr. H forum dwellers can be, not to mention the disappointment it can cause for some people when it's not released when scheduled (this doesn't include me as I've just done the quadruple with your original tactic which I tweaked. Excellent tactic! I can share the tweaks if you, or anybody else is interested ;)). I'm not saying you should drop real life to fulfill what you said you would do, just be a little more tactful when you say you're going to release something.

Not sure if you noticed but there wasn't nearly as much frenzy when you made your announcement this time, which could mean that people are expecting it not to be released as they're used to this happening. It's like the boy who cried wolf scenario.

I'm not having a go at you as you can do what you like, it's just an observation and opinion on how you could improve on the thread and stop it descending into a car crash, as we all know it's done in the past when announcments have been made.

Oh and by the way, looking forward to testing the new tactic. :D

Please sort yourself out this is not life or death, family comes first thanks for the upload Mr Hough.

One question, why is the tactic called tombstone? Or should I use it and all will be revealed?!

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I did plan on releasing the tactic last night - My son had my attention which i can't plan, I have now released the tactic in the Updated OP if you look

You seem to have taken offence. It's mot my intention to offend you, I was merely pointing out how some things could be improved, for everybody's sake.

I know the OP is updated and I appreciate the tactics you share with the community, but this had nothing to do with the points I was trying to make.

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Please sort yourself out this is not life or death, family comes first thanks for the upload Mr Hough.

One question, why is the tactic called tombstone? Or should I use it and all will be revealed?!

And at what point did I suggest it was life or death or family doesn't come first? Take time to read posts thoroughly before commenting on them.

Edit - You know what, forget I said anything as I should really no better than to actually try and make a suggestion through intelligent conversation in a forum. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.

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And at what point did I suggest it was life or death or family doesn't come first? Take time to read posts thoroughly before commenting on them.

Edit - You know what, forget I said anything as I should really no better than to actually try and make a suggestion through intelligent conversation in a forum. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.

Don't worry dking - I didn't take offence, I know i can do things better, I had tried to this time round releaseing the tactic as near to the release date as possible, I was only a few hours out this time as where as previous times i have been days and a week at times.

That is no good.

When i have been making tactics this time i have made sure i have more or less completly been happy with it - I ahve hardly changed anything to the tactic thoughout my unbeaten season with Everton.

Thanks for your comments and good luck with the tactic.

Dave

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I dont know if you need a good defence but my first league game with blackpool im already 6-0 down at half time to west brom. Have I downloaded the right tactic?

It's not a wonder tactic that isn't goona bring Miracles - No tactic in the world would bring massive success with Blackpool as there squad just isn't good enough.

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And at what point did I suggest it was life or death or family doesn't come first? Take time to read posts thoroughly before commenting on them.

Edit - You know what, forget I said anything as I should really no better than to actually try and make a suggestion through intelligent conversation in a forum. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.

The point I am trying to make is this, if you had read the earlier posts before you put this up you would have seen the reason for the delay. The point you made is well made and yes I read your post but at the end of the day this is a guy doing something the rest of us are not doing (or at least not very well) i.e. putting tactics up, if they are late yes everyone may get disappointed but in my opinion to suggest this is some sort of attention seeking by trying to "whip us all into some sort of frenzy" is below the belt and unnecessary

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I dont really expect to win the league or even top half finish with blackpool but i thought i might have a chance of staying up. In the end i lost 7-0 which isn't a good result against a relegation rivals which I expected to run slightly closer tbh. I've started a new game with AC milan as its obvious I stood no chance.

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One thing i must point out that you Must have Defensive Minded CM's litrally the only attacking players in the team should be the 2 wingers and 2 strikers - All other players are defensive players - Thats it abit of a nightmare but thats how i roll.

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Mr Hough 11.2 4-1-1-2-2 Winger Tactic and Discussion.

Been trying to create a Winger tactic for a while now i think i have finally mastered it.

The problems i had been having was in defence as my team where leaking like a siv, I tried mainly common sense to figure out my problem, you see i was always thinking that you had to be more attacking with the sliders to get a better response from my players defensively, That didn't work so i tried more defensive not on the mentality on the closing down and it made my team so much more of a unit at the back. In attack it's as strong as you'd expect from one of my tactics. In the modified i tried to keep it simple, Just wanting my midfield to recycle possession and play the simple ball instead of going all out to be attacking, I don't need that with the 4 attacking players up front i have so the midfield play very much a support role.

When i first set out trying to create this tactic i did so with an idea in my head of how i wanted my team to play, The idea was that my team plays attractive free flowing football with the cautiousness that you need to have a great defence. Now let me tell you it's alot easier than it sounds believe me. I think i have managed to do it though in this 4-1-1-2-2.

I have had Various Success, Huddersfield has been my main Testing Ground, I wanted to test with a side that has wingers in it and was a decent side without me having to make any transfers, In fact i didn't make any at all during this test with Huddersfield, The success that i have achieved with them in the games that i have played has been outstanding. Here are some screenshots of my Success so far.

Player Requirements.

Keeper - Any Decent Keeper will be great.

Fullbacks - Heading - Tackling - Positioning - Pace - Marking - Anticipation

Optional - Team Work - Work Rate - Strength - Composure - Determination

Centre Backs - Heading - Tackling - Positioning - Pace - Marking - Anticipation

Optional - Strength - Composure - Determination - Bravery

Central Midfielder - Passing - Work Rate - Team Work - Strength - Determination - Marking - Tackling

Optional - Off the ball - Creativity - Stamina - First Touch - Heading

Wingers - Dribbling - Flair - Agility - Technique - Pace - Finishing - Creativity

Optional - Crossing - First Touch - Passing - Decisions - Off The Ball - Composure

Strikers - Finishing - Composure - Technique - Decisions - First Touch - Off The Ball - Pace

Optional - Flair - Passing - Creativity - Anticipation - Determination.

Select all the Strikers in your First Team Squad as Target men, Regardless if they play all the time or not still select them.

Team Talks - Use whichever you feel is working for you, I genrally ask my Assistant.

Match Prep - Use Team blend to get the Fluid Levels, Once reached If you have a great defence use Attacking Movement- If you have a great attack use Defensive Positioning.

Opposition Instructions - I don't use any at all

Training - Use one you have been using, I haven't been using any during the testing of this tactic.

Pitch Size - Minimum

Corners - Your best header with good Jumping and Bravery Stats in the Left Defender position - In swinging Corners - Right foot left Corner - Left foot right Corner.

There is the Tactic Link.

http://www.filefront.com/17853597/Mr Hough FM11.2 Unbeaten Tactic (Tottenham, Nov 2010).tac

Don't forget to Add me on facebook if you need help about tactics.

http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Dave-Hough/723618006

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Here is Steve's Updated More defensive Version and the Tweaks that he made to get it this way.

The changes I made:

AML and AMR become ML and MR.

All passing increased by two notches.

Closing down radically altered. Everything increased to get my players behaving like wild animals.

Tackling to normal for GK.

DR, DL, MCL and MCR changed from man to zonal marking.

ML and MR changed to man marking.

Team CF decreased by 1 notch.

Team passing increased by 7 notches.

Team tempo increased by eight notches.

Team closing down increased by 1 notch.

Team timewasting increased by 1 notch.

Team Defensive line increased by 5 notches.

Lots of changes to set piece instructions that better fit my players, are defnsively sound/offer more attacking options/offer chance of a counter attack.

http://www.filefront.com/17865704/Chelsea-2-Chelsea-Jul-2010.tac/

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I have been playing around with this tactic now to try and make it more defensive without losing any of the attacking ability, It had been hard trying to balance the 2 but i think i have got it as far as i can.

Now i have only tested this tactic with 2 teams - Everton in a full on career game where i only made 3 signings all in attack 2 on loan and 1 on a free so basicly the same squad as you would have normally and also tested for 10 games with Tottenham too - Also with no signings just the default squad

With Everton i went Unbeaten for the entire league season with i think is an Incredible success.

Here are some screens of that season - The tactic itself and also one from my Tottenham save.

Tottenham13CCCs.jpg

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EvertonFinalTable.jpg

Use all the same instructions as my previous tactics

Here is the Tactic Link.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vhlwd59869lrheh

which 1 the new 1?

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Hi Dave, congrats on the continued succeses of your tactics. I have a little query, I've been using the il Devasto tactics to some great effect and I've always followed your tactics from way back..upon viewing your team instructions for this latest winger tactic the team instructions are identical to that of Il Devasto (I'm am in the process of checking other aspects of the tactics and will report back later - kids needing attention :D), just wondering whether you guys collaborated on these tactics or its a pure fluke ? :) KUTGW :thup:

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