glengarry224 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 For match preparation training, does it matter which players are currently listed as the first team on the 'Tactics' tab? For example, I tend to do a lot of squad rotation but I don't decide that until match day. So, if I have an 'Attacking Movement', 'Defensive Shape' or set piece training session, but when those are trained, the first team is from the previous match, and later, before the next match, I change the first team, does that render those match preparation training sessions less effective or ineffective? Also, before I start the match, I go into 'set pieces' and edit any unintended changes or holes which are created because of team selection (i.e. the set piece taker changes and that messes up the set piece tactic). Does that make the earlier set piece training ineffective? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I ended up for the first time in the club world cup, (just finished July 3rd), and my team is tired, with the community shield being 3 weeks away. What type of preseason should I run? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus89 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 At what point does your head of youth development affect the youth intake? i.e it is currently 11th Jan (France) and I've replaced my above average HOYD with an absolute perfect chap. Is this years crop of youth already 'set' or will he affect them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Craigus89 said: At what point does your head of youth development affect the youth intake? i.e it is currently 11th Jan (France) and I've replaced my above average HOYD with an absolute perfect chap. Is this years crop of youth already 'set' or will he affect them? It doesn't, the HOYD only influences some players personality. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Craigus89 said: At what point does your head of youth development affect the youth intake? i.e it is currently 11th Jan (France) and I've replaced my above average HOYD with an absolute perfect chap. Is this years crop of youth already 'set' or will he affect them? 7 hours ago, Sharkn20 said: It doesn't, the HOYD only influences some players personality. That's all. Nothing is set in stone until intake day however the building blocks of the intake are positioned much earlier in the year. Exactly when we don't know so difficult to say if changing the HoYD so late as that would have any influence. The HoYD affects more than just personality though: Quote Head of Youth Development (HoYD)The club’s HoYD is responsible for bringing Newgens into the club. He will influence what “type” of players are selected and can partially or fully pass on his personality to some of these Newgens. The “type” of players selected refers to a player’s position and style, for instance a HoYD with a preferred 4-5-1 formation and a Technical Coaching Style may produce more technically styled midfielders than another HoYD.The HoYD will also influence the rare “freak” or exceptional Newgens that come through, modifying their ability and style.This role is filled by the HoYD by default, however if none is employed whichever staff member is set to be responsible for youth development will fill this role. Link 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraudiola Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 which CM role stays back like a DLP on defend when in position but doesn't drop back as deep while defending? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCCook Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 This may be more of a match engine question, but how is it determined which playing style the AI will use? I'm playing in Germany, and nearly every team uses one of the high/extreme pressing, high-tempo styles. It's like playing a Bielsa side every match. Shouldn't there be more variation from team to team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mxrky Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 What’s up with countering the ai when they go on very attacking or use som other ridiculous attacking tactic? Playing against 424 or 4231 and the ai decides to gegenpress and using an advanced playmaker and deep lying playmaker in pivot with attacking full backs and you literally cannot counter. Players lose all control and eventually you concede Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwilzrhcp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Currently using standard pressing with my attacking players PI’s set to more pressing. I have also got counter press turned on, what difference should this make? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus89 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Individual Training: Assigning a role and duty of course shows you what attributes will be affected by this, some duties affect which attributes are focused on (I.e a pressing forward on attack will include finishing, on defend duty it will not). If the duty assigned doesn't change the highlighted attributes, is there any difference in the individual training? In my case, a ball playing defender on cover or defend duty covers identical attributes. So is it relevant at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraudiola Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 ease off tackles or harder vs fast wingers/wingbacks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mxrky Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 How do you counter 424 on football manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus89 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Mentoring, if I click "ask assistnat to assign" he will combine youth players into various groups, but manually doing it you can't add players that aren't in the same squad. Is this intentional? It's annoying either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrainhard Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 The best way to improve workrate attributes , especially for youngsters ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plcarlos Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, saintrainhard said: The best way to improve workrate attributes , especially for youngsters ? Disciplinary for poor performances. By this under 6.4 and ideally lower. right click and warn\fine for poor performance (I do the latter on sub 6.0 ratings). I have some sqaud fillers that have jumped up massively due to this. BTW when they complain on this, it may be worth asking if they need mentoring, or are even worth keeping. (complaining could be a sign of a bad personality that could stop them reaching potential) You can also targte this partially with Endurance training, and or some of the Training types. Telling them they were poor and warning\fining, so long as justified works best though Edited July 5, 2021 by plcarlos 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby92 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 If I’m looking to play a possession based game, should my attacking width be set to narrow to help retain possession in the middle? Or would I be better served with attacking width? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagoltonez Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 19:18, fraudiola said: ease off tackles or harder vs fast wingers/wingbacks? I just look at the opposition player's strength & bravery when deciding this. I find that if a opposition player has high bravery then my players will often get booked. I assume that this is because the player's high bravery level prevents him from ducking out of challenges. I've read before that some prefer to ease off tackles on fast, tricky players though. Does anyone do it differently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 On 08/07/2021 at 17:44, mby92 said: If I’m looking to play a possession based game, should my attacking width be set to narrow to help retain possession in the middle? Or would I be better served with attacking width? Narrow helps you keep possession. However thats because players are closer together. You can also play wider if your players are technically good with standard passing and still keep the ball. It depends on your players 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigaliro Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 What's the difference between Wide Midfielder and Winger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrainhard Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Are slowing down the tempo and doing shorter passes +(not pass to space, be disciplined , dribble less) while already in lead can greatly conserve energy of the players?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraudiola Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 any way to keep AML and AMR from tracking back. playing a TM on support, all three track back on defense which leaves no one up front for an out ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARRERA Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, fraudiola said: any way to keep AML and AMR from tracking back. playing a TM on support, all three track back on defense which leaves no one up front for an out ball Attack duty and a maybe even a higher mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraudiola Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, CARRERA said: Attack duty and a maybe even a higher mentality. they're on attack duty and positive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARRERA Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 hours ago, saintrainhard said: Are slowing down the tempo and doing shorter passes +(not pass to space, be disciplined , dribble less) while already in lead can greatly conserve energy of the players?? yes, you can do that. Especially with be more disciplined your players will look for a no-nonsense passing game to keep possession. You might need to lower your mentality though to have your players not moving up the pitch too fast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARRERA Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fraudiola said: they're on attack duty and positive You may need to start a thread for this to not start a discussion in this thread. however, at some point they will always track back. So if they even track back with an attack duty, you need to win the ball back more quickly. There is no way to drop deep with wide players remaining the outlets l. maybe wide target mans will stay there Edited July 10, 2021 by CARRERA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSpecialOne Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Maybe a player with poor work rate and/or team work attributes will be less inclined to track back as often. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotsworthy Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 17 hours ago, zigaliro said: What's the difference between Wide Midfielder and Winger? Wide Midfielders have no individual instructions. They also start from a deeper position than a winger so they can provide defensive cover whereas a winger is more aggressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraudiola Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 should i be worried about a player unhappy about his current contract if his morale is high? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 hours ago, fraudiola said: should i be worried about a player unhappy about his current contract if his morale is high? it can spread. you can ask your captain or vicecaptain to have a word with him What is the best training session after a match: recovery or rest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fieldsy Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Does the AI use the preset default tractics in game? So for instance, in terms of some role and the team instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Fieldsy said: Does the AI use the preset default tractics in game? So for instance, in terms of some role and the team instructions? I would imagine so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fieldsy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 16 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said: I would imagine so. Interesting, so in trying to combat opposition tactics, we should be able to generally guess/know these by using the preset team instructions etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby92 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Why does my right sided winger (attack) keep cutting inside as opposed to beating his man and crossing on his right foot? The player in question is James Forrest. So it is his favoured role on his favoured side. It’s frustrating as he is driving into the middle and congesting the midfield when there is loads of space for him on the outside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHurlz Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 hours ago, mby92 said: Why does my right sided winger (attack) keep cutting inside as opposed to beating his man and crossing on his right foot? The player in question is James Forrest. So it is his favoured role on his favoured side. It’s frustrating as he is driving into the middle and congesting the midfield when there is loads of space for him on the outside. Does he have "cuts inside from right wing" or "cuts inside from both wings" PPM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraudiola Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 how high should composure be for playing out the back be for a top 4 side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSpecialOne Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) More is nice but I don't know if there's an exact number you can point to, really. The average composure of the first choice back four of my most recent champions league winning side was like 12.5 - most games we played out the back. Edited July 14, 2021 by NotSoSpecialOne Wrong attribute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostofPaulLambert Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Jack Grealish...what role best replicates how he plays IRL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus89 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 22 hours ago, mby92 said: Why does my right sided winger (attack) keep cutting inside as opposed to beating his man and crossing on his right foot? The player in question is James Forrest. So it is his favoured role on his favoured side. It’s frustrating as he is driving into the middle and congesting the midfield when there is loads of space for him on the outside. This happens to literally every winger. I believe it was a way of ‘nerfing’ the overpowered crosses. You can’t reliably get players to hit early crosses no matter what you do, or who the players are. Hopefully it’s looked at for the next release. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHurlz Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, TheGhostofPaulLambert said: Jack Grealish...what role best replicates how he plays IRL? Probably advanced playmaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby92 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 13/07/2021 at 23:21, LHurlz said: Does he have "cuts inside from right wing" or "cuts inside from both wings" PPM? No. His preferred moves are to run with ball down the right, knocks ball past opponent, and avoids using weaker foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Do you consider technique important for a BPD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 14/07/2021 at 16:07, fraudiola said: how high should composure be for playing out the back be for a top 4 side? On 14/07/2021 at 16:47, NotSoSpecialOne said: More is nice but I don't know if there's an exact number you can point to, really. The average composure of the first choice back four of my most recent champions league winning side was like 12.5 - most games we played out the back. Yeah if you're at the top level I'd say you generally don't want below 12-13 on any important attributes. It depends on your system too, I play quite aggressively so whilst I do occasionally get 2010 Spain-esque sequences of short passes by our own corner flag, more likely my centre backs are on half-way and full backs are at the opposition byline. I'm on FM19 but I think this is all still relevant. My 6-successive CL-winning side's first choice back 4 right now has 15, 14, 16, 14 Composure along with great technical abilities in general (well, one of them has 11 First Touch and Technique, 13 Passing, but the rest could be midfielders. Federico Chiesa at right back, for example). But it all depends on your structure, as I've also got this guy playing all my group games and some knockouts at centre-back: He plays as a BPD-St, in partnership with a BPD-Co. As you can see, only 9 Composure and Technique. But other than that he's technically sound and intelligent, with a strong structure around him of a more technical BPD-Co, a good SK-Su, a DLP-De dropping deep, and the Play Out Of Defence, Much Shorter Passing, and Lower Tempo instructions countered by our Attacking team mentality and Focus Play Through The Middle, giving him an Attacking mentality as an individual. But I also have the contradiction of giving a player a role with Take More Risks hardcoded the trait 'Plays Short Simple Passes' to account for. In his last match he played 54 passes, completing 44, with a 79% rate over the season so far - 6 key passes out of his 891 total. Too, he hasn't made any mistakes leading to a goal. In summary - its FM, there are no right answers But hopefully I've helped in some small way. 21 hours ago, mikcheck said: Do you consider technique important for a BPD? Depends how much of the "BP" part of BPD you're looking for. If you want a guy playing "Hollywood Passes" or dribbling out, then yes it's very important. For example my favourite defender in my team right now is Dayot Upamecano: His left foot is Fairly Strong. He does often charge out into the midfield before either laying it off short or accurately putting my striker 1v1 with the goalkeeper. But our other 3 centre backs are closer to the player I highlighted in my previous response in terms of technical ability. You still get the occasional long ball over the top - less likely to lead to a clear goalscoring opportunity than from Upamecano, but still quite accurate - but more likely they'll either go very short, or dink it over one player to reach my wide forwards. Upamecano's predecessor, however, was Kostas Manolas: Only 10 Passing and Technique - ignore the physicals, he's 35 in this screenshot - and a trait that should arguably get him into trouble by relying on the aforementioned Technique. But he's so intelligent - his high Composure perhaps makes this image more relevant to the first question I was answering - he was a key part in a team hauling in 7 consecutive domestic clean sweeps and 5 Champions League titles. We didn't lose a single league game for his last 5 seasons either. Obviously the system - and the incredible squad surrounding him - plays a great role here, but he certainly didn't let the side down. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 What factors affect the likelihood that I can train / untrain a player trait? I'm on FM19. For example, I want to alter Lorenzo Pellegrini's game as he ages - partially to change his game, partially to prevent him passing on unwanted moves through mentoring: In particular I'm looking at Arrives Late In Opponent's Area (I'll move him back to DLP-De at DM in a couple of seasons), and Attempts Overhead Kicks (waste - admittedly minuscule - of PA, I've never seen on in FM19). Does versatility effect it? As an accomplished DM and natural MC / AMC, he's equal there to Donny van de Beek, the only player I've ever successfully removed Dwells on Ball from. But would another player who is a natural AML, AMR, MR, DR, competent ML, AMC, WBR, unconvincing ST, and awkward WBL be more easily able to adapt his game? My experience says not given I also have a natural DL, accomplished at WBL, DC, DR, WBR who has been unsuccessful with learning appropriate traits for 3 years. The player's attributes obviously affect his ability to gain a trait, but do they affect the ability to remove it? i.e. because his physical decline hasn't begun and he has such great Off The Ball, will I struggle to remove Arrives Late In Opponent's Area? Or will his overall intelligence make it easier to alter his game? Does the quality of coaches and club facilities have an effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carney48 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I cant seem to find the option to train the preferred move "tries killer balls" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 14/07/2021 at 18:00, TheGhostofPaulLambert said: Jack Grealish...what role best replicates how he plays IRL? I've found Trequartista in the AML spot to be pretty effective. The only drawback would be that it has Take More Risks, and with the very attacking mentality, I find he often tries through balls just a bit too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 What are the first things I should check first when I have extremely bad shots on target ratio (around 20%)? The xg on the chanches im getting is ok, my players just always put it wide, including my golden ball striker. Already doig chance conversion and WBIB+lower tempo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 8 hours ago, zlatanera said: What factors affect the likelihood that I can train / untrain a player trait? I'm on FM19. For example, I want to alter Lorenzo Pellegrini's game as he ages - partially to change his game, partially to prevent him passing on unwanted moves through mentoring: In particular I'm looking at Arrives Late In Opponent's Area (I'll move him back to DLP-De at DM in a couple of seasons), and Attempts Overhead Kicks (waste - admittedly minuscule - of PA, I've never seen on in FM19). Does versatility effect it? As an accomplished DM and natural MC / AMC, he's equal there to Donny van de Beek, the only player I've ever successfully removed Dwells on Ball from. But would another player who is a natural AML, AMR, MR, DR, competent ML, AMC, WBR, unconvincing ST, and awkward WBL be more easily able to adapt his game? My experience says not given I also have a natural DL, accomplished at WBL, DC, DR, WBR who has been unsuccessful with learning appropriate traits for 3 years. The player's attributes obviously affect his ability to gain a trait, but do they affect the ability to remove it? i.e. because his physical decline hasn't begun and he has such great Off The Ball, will I struggle to remove Arrives Late In Opponent's Area? Or will his overall intelligence make it easier to alter his game? Does the quality of coaches and club facilities have an effect? You can't teach an old dog new tricks has meaning in FM. ie., the older a player is the less likely he becomes of gaining / losing Traits. Versatility absolutely affects things as well, including the likelihood of success and the number of Traits a player could have. A player's attributes and position will also have an impact. Traits don't affect PA. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsihn Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 15/07/2021 at 04:49, mby92 said: No. His preferred moves are to run with ball down the right, knocks ball past opponent, and avoids using weaker foot. Have you considered that the opposition might be forcing him inside by using the show onto weaker foot opposition instructions, the same way you do for other teams? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosque Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Right now I'm using a 4-1-2-3 DM Wide. The classic 433. Midfielders have very good workrate and bravery but decent-poor tackling. I want to compress the area so we have more bodies battling in the midfield and they help eachother to balance the lack of good tacklers. Is it a good idea using a higher defensive line, lower line of engagement and increase the pressing urgency? Edited July 21, 2021 by bosque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prolix Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, bosque said: Is it a good idea using a higher defensive line, lower line of engagement and increase the pressing urgency? I would use at least a standard line of engagement so as not to allow opposition defenders an excessive amount of time on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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