zombo Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Mr Hough: A couple of questions. 1. Do you use this same tactic all season, every season? What do you do when the AI figures out the tactic your using? Isnt it best to use at least 2 tactics? 2. I havent really mastered the team talk aspect yet, so i think ill go with the assistant manager at first, and then talk those players that need it. But what other then motivation does the assistant manager need to handle team talks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Dragon Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Mr Hough please upload your tactic. I wanna try it with tottenham, because still i don't have a good tactic for them. Just won the prem and europa cup with Tottenahm in first season, no signings... started with Mr Hough's original tactic then swapped after about 10 game to the new tactic with the defensive tweaks, i have screens if anyone is interested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 puts images Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro46 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 mr hough i have one question: i see that lot of players have problem to get striker to score. so i was wondering if will be good to try wide play from normal to move into channels??? i dont no what move into channels means but i have seen in a lot other tactic that have strikers this wide play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Dragon Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Apologises but i missed the screen shot of the team at the end of season. Any questions, feel free to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vando Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 great results, I'm in second season with Man City, performance dropped in the second season but still good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc42 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's ridiculous. First season with Everton with no changes to the current squad, my record is played 10, won 8, drawn 1 lost 1, goals for 27 against 12. Points 25. Nice work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricketdave Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Dave - 1st season with Spurs won league cup and FA cup, Man Utd won league from me by 1 point, lost in semi-final of uefa cup to city - I fielded a weak side as I was struggling with the amount of games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 rhat game hough was up 8-0 at ht must have lost 9-8 as he never uploaded it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The tweaked defense version is one of the best. Works very well. I have three tactics that i mix up through a season. I use tackiller, vodu and Mr Hough. I do notice if i get complacent using one of them i switch and results always guaranteed. Like many i am waiting for version with two strikers but obviously it has hit the wall once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 donhughberto, so it's better to play with 3-4 different tactics for a season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 donhughberto, so it's better to play with 3-4 different tactics for a season? No but it is better to have tactics in place when things are not working out. I do notice that tactics get found out in the game. Always set up three in your match preperation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueEyes Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Still using this tatic and getting some results but finding that i can beat someone 7-0 one week and then fail to beat a lower team the next week. Still leaking more goals than i would like but cant find anything better so might just have to upgrade me defense at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The tweaked defense version is one of the best. Works very well. I have three tactics that i mix up through a season. I use tackiller, vodu and Mr Hough. I do notice if i get complacent using one of them i switch and results always guaranteed. Like many i am waiting for version with two strikers but obviously it has hit the wall once again. So which is better, this or the swarm tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 So which is better, this or the swarm tactic? This one, I hated the swarm and refused to use it. I think the Vodu influence makes this tactic very good. Not as great and as dominating as last years but good solid tactic. The Tackiller version is great but concedes a good few. Vodu tactic is great and doesnt score as many, and Mr Hough is solid but hate one striker, but have to admit all have values and all work. I would love Dave to release one with 2 strikers as above. I might then stick to one tactic if it as good as he says! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltjon Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 ....and a mix of vodu 4-4-2 an il devasto ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This one, I hated the swarm and refused to use it. I think the Vodu influence makes this tactic very good. Not as great and as dominating as last years but good solid tactic. The Tackiller version is great but concedes a good few. Vodu tactic is great and doesnt score as many, and Mr Hough is solid but hate one striker, but have to admit all have values and all work. I would love Dave to release one with 2 strikers as above. I might then stick to one tactic if it as good as he says! When you say 'this one', which one do you mean? The tweaked defense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul7875 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 super defense tactic needs more attacking threat dave but otherwise good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 No but it is better to have tactics in place when things are not working out. I do notice that tactics get found out in the game. Always set up three in your match preperation. Been wondering about when i should change tactics and for how long i should be using another tactic before going back again. Atm im using Mr Houghs "Boots To Asses" tactic and i have the "Vodu Caos" as the backup tactic. So far i have only used BTA and i have played 9 matches in the league and 16 matches in total, not counting friendlies. My goal average is 3,9 per game and an average of 0,5 goals conceded. Thats pretty awesome considering my first match was a 1-4 defeat. But i suppose its only a matter of time until things stop working so well with this tactic. Would it be enough if i only played around 10-15 matches per season with another tactic? And if so would it have to be a completely different formation? The problem with using these tactics together is that my squad will consist of some player types that will be useless most of the season. On a different save i tried using a home and away tactic, but it didnt work so well. Seems like changing tactic every 1-2 games makes the whole thing inconsistent. Would like to know how this starting/backup tactics system actually works and what the best way of doing it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Mr. Hough's Defensive Tweaked Version:http://www.mediafire.com/?8w4d23hzvmzx591 (Reloaded the original tactic and applied the defensive settings in the OP) No more confusion. This one lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Been wondering about when i should change tactics and for how long i should be using another tactic before going back again.Atm im using Mr Houghs "Boots To Asses" tactic and i have the "Vodu Caos" as the backup tactic. So far i have only used BTA and i have played 9 matches in the league and 16 matches in total, not counting friendlies. My goal average is 3,9 per game and an average of 0,5 goals conceded. Thats pretty awesome considering my first match was a 1-4 defeat. But i suppose its only a matter of time until things stop working so well with this tactic. Would it be enough if i only played around 10-15 matches per season with another tactic? And if so would it have to be a completely different formation? The problem with using these tactics together is that my squad will consist of some player types that will be useless most of the season. On a different save i tried using a home and away tactic, but it didnt work so well. Seems like changing tactic every 1-2 games makes the whole thing inconsistent. Would like to know how this starting/backup tactics system actually works and what the best way of doing it is. A number of different formations used by the AI in game. I keep in mind formations that the tactic struggles with. I would see if this happens regular and change if needed. I play same tactic maybe 85% of the season. We all know that nobody is meant to win every game, its impossible. Take tactic above. Good solid tactic but can be short of goals. When you get a game where you are at home and heavy favourites you might win 3 or 4 nil. I found with tackiller i might win same game 8-1 or 9-1 etc. With Vodu maybe in between if things go as planned. If you meet better teams tackiller might be 3-2 where as Mr Hough might be 2-0 with other team failing to create chances. Its really personal choice and there is a great deal of solid tactics to choose from on these forums. I would say try them all and see what you like and what works for your team best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhyle Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hey Mr. Hough, or anyone with knowledge of this, would this tactic be good to use with a Bet South/North team? I like using 1 single tactic, and Hough's tactics have been the ones I've used in the last year or so. I know it would be rough, because the quality of players isn't the best at this low stage. I could always just use it and wing it ; it's normally what I do. I know what to look for in players, so I have that at least on my side. I'll give it a go, should be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastley Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 First game, got belted all over the pitch stat wise, but won the game 3-1 with only like 5 shots for the game. 2nd Match: A little more possession than Opposition, similar amount of shots, but 70% of them on target, won 6-1!! I am Liverpool, against Aston Villa that was. A defender got 3, Suarez got 2. 4th Match now.. Spanked Man U 6-0! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 This one lads Are you still using maximum pitch size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Backchat Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 i'm playing with Wimbledon I seem to be playing every single team off the park, always have higher amount of shots, shots on target and the dreaded CCC. Yet its very hit and miss if i win or not. To be honest its getting quite annoying seeing my team hit shot after shot straight at the keeper, wether its at point blank range from a cross or when one on one. Whereas the computer has about an 80% of conversion rate with their shots on target. its annoying because even with my lower league wimbledon team some of the football on display is beautiful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 i'm playing with WimbledonI seem to be playing every single team off the park, always have higher amount of shots, shots on target and the dreaded CCC. Yet its very hit and miss if i win or not. To be honest its getting quite annoying seeing my team hit shot after shot straight at the keeper, wether its at point blank range from a cross or when one on one. Whereas the computer has about an 80% of conversion rate with their shots on target. its annoying because even with my lower league wimbledon team some of the football on display is beautiful I got them promoted to Premeir League and i am spanking alot of teams then i draw or lose at home to smaller team. This game can be weird. Is Dave on Holiday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Are you still using maximum pitch size? I am aye. I am in premiership now with AFC Wimbledon. Beat Liverpool 4 nil at home, man utd 3-0 at home, then away draw against birmingham where my players took a holiday. Played 10 games all competitions and conceded just 2 goals and i only just got promoted. I am waiting for Daves two striker tactic as i think we could score more but in defence its excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Backchat Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 which would you say is better this tactic or vodus 442 tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeylad Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 i cant seem to download the tactic, its saying page not available! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 i cant seem to download the tactic, its saying page not available! I can't find original version as i altered a few things. Maybe someone else could relink it for you Cancel that, this link still works http://www.mediafire.com/?8w4d23hzvmzx591 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust_ Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 First game with the tweaked tactic! simply brilliant!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gezz1984 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Any idea how to limit off sides?? My strickers stats so far : pl 15 offside 38 Off the ball : 15 AmL : pl 15 offside 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Any idea how to limit off sides?? My strickers stats so far : pl 15 offside 38 Off the ball : 15 AmL : pl 15 offside 22 It's not just off the ball you wanna be looking at but anticipation and Decisions aswell, I am very close to releasing my next tactic, Hopefully at the beginning of next week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dirk Diggler Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 If anything is to be gathered from all these threads it seems to be that you need a multitude of tactics, and dave yours is the strongest i have amongst them, so matter how frustrating it must be for you being mr perfectionist you are in fact doing a grand job, and producing some nice tactics......so many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhyle Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 If anything is to be gathered from all these threads it seems to be that you need a multitude of tactics, and dave yours is the strongest i have amongst them, so matter how frustrating it must be for you being mr perfectionist you are in fact doing a grand job, and producing some nice tactics......so many thanks. I have to agree. I have more time now (quit job) so I'll be able to play more with these tactics. I'll employ the both, boots to asses and swarm. I'm of the same opinion of Mr Diggler, so using both tactics released by the same man seems fair to me. I love watching my players perform with these tactics, they are simply amazing. Thanks much Mr Hough, I look forward to the other tactics you produce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 which would you say is better this tactic or vodus 442 tactic? I can't find original version as i altered a few things. Maybe someone else could relink it for you Cancel that, this link still works http://www.mediafire.com/?8w4d23hzvmzx591 what you think donhughberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvN#17 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Congrats Mr. Hough. Only goal conceded and draw where against feyenoord 1:1, we are in first place with 40 goals For and 1 Against. Vermeer didnt concede for 947 minutes and then he managed to concede 4 against Barca at Camp Nou, and we were leading 2:0 in the first 30 minutes CL group: Milan (2:0 at home and 2:0 away), Barcelona (2:0 win at home and 4:3 loss at Camp Nou & Rosenberg 3:0 win home and we have to play them in the last game for first place in group) My Squad : GK - Vermeer DL - Tzavellas DC - Vertonghen DC - Alderweid DR - van der Wiell DM - Bernandello MC - Janssen MC - Thiago (on loan from Barca) AMR - Sulejmani AML - McFadden ST - El Hamdaoui Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Congrats Mr. Hough.Only goal conceded and draw where against feyenoord 1:1, we are in first place with 40 goals For and 1 Against. Vermeer didnt concede for 947 minutes and then he managed to concede 4 against Barca at Camp Nou, and we were leading 2:0 in the first 30 minutes CL group: Milan (2:0 at home and 2:0 away), Barcelona (2:0 win at home and 4:3 loss at Camp Nou & Rosenberg 3:0 win home and we have to play them in the last game for first place in group) My Squad : GK - Vermeer DL - Tzavellas DC - Vertonghen DC - Alderweid DR - van der Wiell DM - Bernandello MC - Janssen MC - Thiago (on loan from Barca) AMR - Sulejmani AML - McFadden ST - El Hamdaoui what skin that pal ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLittle Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not been doing too bad with Norwich, decided to give this a go as it was Mr Hough because had a dip in form. First game I used was at Stamford Bridge and lost 1-0, after that I beat QPR 5-1 and then Villa 4-1 and then beat Arsenal 7-1 in the League Cup Final. The first few games have looked extremely promising including a cracking win in the League Cup Final, will keep updated, the photo thing isn't working so put the links up. http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af252/PedrosLaw1/MrHoughWin.jpg http://s1013.photobucket.com/albums/af252/PedrosLaw1/?action=view¤t=MrHoughresults.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffeeeee Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Always used your tactics matey. Just won the league in my first season with everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchlw Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 What a great tactic this is but.... Am i the only one with this problem? Im having a great time with this tactic......scoring allot of goals, playing attractive soccer and creating allot of chances...but now suddenly mid-season.....the opponents get more chances, my players making some mistakes they never did and all that.... Let me know if you have some of those problems too! Cheers, Mitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 What a great tactic this is but....Am i the only one with this problem? Im having a great time with this tactic......scoring allot of goals, playing attractive soccer and creating allot of chances...but now suddenly mid-season.....the opponents get more chances, my players making some mistakes they never did and all that.... Let me know if you have some of those problems too! Cheers, Mitch. This happens to all teams/players, regardless of the actual approach you play. If the players look like they are not putting in the effort, then its down to the man management, if they are struggling to find space, instead the opponent hit you on the counter then its a sign that you need to lure them up the field and use the width. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvN#17 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 what skin that pal ? Fahrenheit Links: https://rapidshare.com/#!download|617l32|95875190|Fahrenheit_Skin_for_FM12.zip|15131|R~AF2B2BF740227F782E8F2225D0FEC399|0|0 http://uploaded.to/file/kitospld Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I am aye. I am in premiership now with AFC Wimbledon. Beat Liverpool 4 nil at home, man utd 3-0 at home, then away draw against birmingham where my players took a holiday. Played 10 games all competitions and conceded just 2 goals and i only just got promoted. I am waiting for Daves two striker tactic as i think we could score more but in defence its excellent. Seem to be struggling in my second season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Defensive tweak tac, still defensive position on High, when fluid on average? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 ^check your inbox mate. i sent you a little msg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombo Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Brilliant tactic Mr Hough. Alright, im playing with Barcelona atm, but still. Only 1 defeat in the league and it came at home to Real Madrid, in between the CL semi finals against...Real Madrid, who else. Ive never played in a league where another team has scored over 100 goals btw. 65 games played in total this season, 55 won and only 4 lost. 217 goals scored in total and 43 conceded. Were undefeated in the league until game nr. 34. Met Real Madrid 8 times in all tournaments, and won 6 of them. Won the league, CL, the Spanish cup, the club world championship and the European super cup. The only lame thing is the scoring rate of one of the central defenders. In my team Puyol scored 32 goals in 52 games, with an average rating of 8.00. Some other awesome player stats are: Xavi with 14 goals and 38 assists in 49 games. Alexis Sanchez with 23 goals and 25 assists in 52 games. Messi with 20 goals and 16 assists in 29 games(as a left winger, lots of injuries). Giuseppe Rossi with 15 goals in 17 games. David Villa with 34 goals and 14 assists in 33 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Brilliant tactic Mr Hough. Alright, im playing with Barcelona atm, but still. Only 1 defeat in the league and it came at home to Real Madrid, in between the CL semi finals against...Real Madrid, who else. Ive never played in a league where another team has scored over 100 goals btw. 65 games played in total this season, 55 won and only 4 lost. 217 goals scored in total and 43 conceded. Were undefeated in the league until game nr. 34. Met Real Madrid 8 times in all tournaments, and won 6 of them. Won the league, CL, the Spanish cup, the club world championship and the European super cup. The only lame thing is the scoring rate of one of the central defenders. In my team Puyol scored 32 goals in 52 games, with an average rating of 8.00. Some other awesome player stats are: Xavi with 14 goals and 38 assists in 49 games. Alexis Sanchez with 23 goals and 25 assists in 52 games. Messi with 20 goals and 16 assists in 29 games(as a left winger, lots of injuries). Giuseppe Rossi with 15 goals in 17 games. David Villa with 34 goals and 14 assists in 33 games. is it the tactic from post 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannibalCorpse Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 hey guys one quick question: do we use right-footed AMRs and left-footed AMLs or the opposite??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombo Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 is it the tactic from post 1 Its the tweaked version. Team talks done by me and assistant doing press conferance. Match preparation as said in post 1 and down to average/low workload when fluid. I actually used the same tactic (except for 2 games) the whole season, so i guess the need for several tactics is kind of overrated. Maybe its more useful in season 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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