Pedro Guerreiro Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Pequenogenio qual é a tactica que usas para teres esses resultados? Obrigado Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Right got a new tactic up my sleeve but it isn'r entirely mine, It was my base with M.U.F.C's tweaks and i have tweaked it again so if i decide to release it i will make as both our tactics. I am still testing but it's gone better than i could have ever expected seriously. I'll release more information after i've played more games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 é a versao do m.u.f.c. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 é a versao do m.u.f.c. English speaking forums mate, make sure you post in English please so we can understand what you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiago G. Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 é a versao do m.u.f.c. Where is this version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewe_york Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 English speaking forums mate, make sure you post in English please so we can understand what you say. Think he's asking where to find the M.U.F.C version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 or i dunno i had it on my computer from when i downloaded it before, It'll be in one of the pages, 4th or 5th i reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiago G. Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 or i dunno i had it on my computer from when i downloaded it before, It'll be in one of the pages, 4th or 5th i reckon Thnks Hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rim Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thnks Hough here is the link from post #444 i think.. http://www.gamefront.com/files/21197145/4-1-2-2-1+tweak+from+mr+houghs+4-1-2-3%21%21+%28Man+Utd%2C+Dec+2011%29.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiago G. Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 here is the link from post #444 i think..http://www.gamefront.com/files/21197145/4-1-2-2-1+tweak+from+mr+houghs+4-1-2-3%21%21+%28Man+Utd%2C+Dec+2011%29.tac I found it. Thanks anyway mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 English speaking forums mate, make sure you post in English please so we can understand what you say. Sorry mate :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 These kind of comments really bug me, Here is some Reasons why.1 - Mine and Mufc's formations are completly different so it impossible to deicde which is better becuase they play compeltly different players for each positions. 2 - I don't think Mufc is trying to make a tactic that is better than my own, All i think he has wanted to do is Use Man Utd but use the likes of Nani and Young in the team that is why it is a 4-1-2-2-1 formation instead of a 4-1-2-3. 3 - What you have asked for is stupid, Why would people test both tactics just to show you results when you can do it yourself in your own games. Next time your gonna ask questions think first. only just read this post,not been on here properly for a while,not making a tactic better than hough's at all,i'm not capable,hough is a master,like he said i just wanted wingers to involve the likes of nani,young and valencia in their natural positions,anyway looking forward to the new tactic mr hough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 is the m.u.f.c version the one with the 2 wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.u.f.c 1878 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 is the m.u.f.c version the one with the 2 wingers? yes that's the one,have you used it,i went away from it trying other things,i might revert back to it until mr hough releases his new one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 no but seeing those results,ill give it a spin and let u know how it goes.4-2-2-2 is going amazing. i feel lowering the team mentality by a few notches unto the top level of normal helps in getting the defense stable,esp against the big teams. and also the original one,with w4nkers tweak,higher pushing up n closing down seemed to do a world of good,and same thing helped me beat united at old trafford. im wolvese btw. so yea,ill give it a shot tonight since i recently got in wingers to play the 4-2-2-2,so it will be interesting to see what your one does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 mr.hough,any chance getting the striker tweak into m.u.f.c version,if its so good without it,i guess it will be like whooping with it! and the 4-2-2-2,with use target man ticked on but not chosen gives around 5 goals a game,and about 7 ccc,haha. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverblabe Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 could someone give me the link to that 4222 please ? I can't find it anywhere, totally lost in this topic ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 could someone give me the link to that 4222 please ? I can't find it anywhere, totally lost in this topic ^^first post mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Pre-season on my dover's game (second season) c means home game f means away game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Pre-season on my dover's game (second season) c means home game f means away game which tactic? 4-2-2-2? or m.u.f.c version or 4-3-3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 m.u.f.c version mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm gonna Release the 4-1-2-2-1 Tactic Tomorrow night as i have been dropped in the poo at work today and tomorrow afternoon. I have only done one real test to speak of Racing (spanish side) played 10 games won 9 drew 1 lost 0, Currently 2nd place 1 point behind Barcelona. I'll get some more done when i finish work later on today but the tactic won't be released until tomorrow night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardpower Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Racing (spanish side) played 10 games won 9 drew 1 lost 0, Currently 2nd place 1 point behind Barcelona. How is that even possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm gonna Release the 4-1-2-2-1 Tactic Tomorrow night as i have been dropped in the poo at work today and tomorrow afternoon.I have only done one real test to speak of Racing (spanish side) played 10 games won 9 drew 1 lost 0, Currently 2nd place 1 point behind Barcelona. I'll get some more done when i finish work later on today but the tactic won't be released until tomorrow night. Dangerous one hough, what if it doesn't survive the mid-season re-rank and goes all to pot! I find it easy to build a tactic that wins everything for half a season and then gets in January as I tear my hair out! not a criticism, just not like you to out it through its paces for longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadedEagle Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The link for the tottenham tactic does not work.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREAM Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 How is that even possible? It is possible. I think Barca has one match more than Racing and they have 9win 2drew. Voila! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 God this game is Frustrating, Same old story 3 or 4 times i have tried to release a tactic, Goes very well and everything looks rosy then all of a sudden my Team Starts playing like utter dog poo and its back to the drawing board. I officially give up on Patch 12.1.1, Hopefully Patch 12.2 will be more kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^^ I get this with nearly all the tactics i have tried on 12.1.1. The only way to get past it is by improving your players so that your team just kind of "powers through" the tactic despite the fact it has lost effectiveness. Thing is...I understand that SI want to encourage people to start changing tactics to suit different situations, BUT, for a perfectly good and working tactic which has won all games and scored many goals to all of a sudden turn to crap and just not work at all. There is just no logic in it. Alex Ferguson might change between a 442, 4222, 4231 or 433 but if he did choose to go back to the 422 and stick with it for 10 or so games, it wouldn't just stop working after the 11th. :s I feel SI have made a big mistake here in whatever they were trying to do. Personally it annoys me how we spend £20-£40 every year on purchasing this game, and it isn't even released as a finished product. Instead we have to wait for patch after patch to fix bugs as if they didn't test the game themselves. The only patch SI should release is the transfer update, and they should just take longer testing the game to make sure it is perfect before release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronny Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 God this game is Frustrating, Same old story 3 or 4 times i have tried to release a tactic, Goes very well and everything looks rosy then all of a sudden my Team Starts playing like utter dog poo and its back to the drawing board.I officially give up on Patch 12.1.1, Hopefully Patch 12.2 will be more kind. 1 had told you Mr Hough it is very difficult to have 4-2-2-2 or formations with 2 strikers.Just try with 4-2-3-1 or your 4-1-2-2-1 formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yallii Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^^ I get this with nearly all the tactics i have tried on 12.1.1. The only way to get past it is by improving your players so that your team just kind of "powers through" the tactic despite the fact it has lost effectiveness.Thing is...I understand that SI want to encourage people to start changing tactics to suit different situations, BUT, for a perfectly good and working tactic which has won all games and scored many goals to all of a sudden turn to crap and just not work at all. There is just no logic in it. Alex Ferguson might change between a 442, 4222, 4231 or 433 but if he did choose to go back to the 422 and stick with it for 10 or so games, it wouldn't just stop working after the 11th. :s I feel SI have made a big mistake here in whatever they were trying to do. Personally it annoys me how we spend £20-£40 every year on purchasing this game, and it isn't even released as a finished product. Instead we have to wait for patch after patch to fix bugs as if they didn't test the game themselves. The only patch SI should release is the transfer update, and they should just take longer testing the game to make sure it is perfect before release. +1 I had a lot of fun with the game pre-12.1 and really don't understand why SI aim to make this game as frustrating as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rim Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 +1I had a lot of fun with the game pre-12.1 and really don't understand why SI aim to make this game as frustrating as possible. I can't agree more.. I also hate steam as i can't even play with the update i want.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 any chance I could take a look at what you did with the muff version?? i seem to be having a great time with your other tactics and would love to see what you did with it,even if you feel its not worth it.if u don't want to release it in public,please pm me. cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^^ I get this with nearly all the tactics i have tried on 12.1.1. The only way to get past it is by improving your players so that your team just kind of "powers through" the tactic despite the fact it has lost effectiveness.Thing is...I understand that SI want to encourage people to start changing tactics to suit different situations, BUT, for a perfectly good and working tactic which has won all games and scored many goals to all of a sudden turn to crap and just not work at all. There is just no logic in it. Alex Ferguson might change between a 442, 4222, 4231 or 433 but if he did choose to go back to the 422 and stick with it for 10 or so games, it wouldn't just stop working after the 11th. :s I feel SI have made a big mistake here in whatever they were trying to do. Personally it annoys me how we spend £20-£40 every year on purchasing this game, and it isn't even released as a finished product. Instead we have to wait for patch after patch to fix bugs as if they didn't test the game themselves. The only patch SI should release is the transfer update, and they should just take longer testing the game to make sure it is perfect before release. Yeah i agree with this and SI should either Test for longer or get more people to test the game for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 1 had told you Mr Hough it is very difficult to have 4-2-2-2 or formations with 2 strikers.Just try with 4-2-3-1 or your 4-1-2-2-1 formation I'm not using a 4-2-2-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrewefc Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 How did your testing go with your latest creation and are you still planning on releasing it tonight still? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 How did your testing go with your latest creation and are you still planning on releasing it tonight still? Well testing is going well but i don't think it is as good as my previous tactics. It's mainly the defence that i am having problems with, It's the trickiest part of the game but i'll try and hopefully come up with something tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Liga Zon Sagres Liga Zon Sagres Player Stats Top Goal Scorer Héctor González Uefa Champions League Tree all with the 41122 with target man ticked and selected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffers007 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Liga Zon Sagres Liga Zon Sagres Player Stats Top Goal Scorer Héctor González Uefa Champions League Tree all with the 41122 with target man ticked and selected can you put your version of the tactic up please? the one with the striker tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibro46 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 mr hough i have question about your rolls back the year defensive version of tactic: - in team instruction i notice that you increase tempo from 1 to 20 why that? isnt quick tempo force players to do more mistakes in pases? - you also increase passing for CD,DR,DL from 0 to 14 i still dont understand passing when to use sort or direct or when is beter first or second. so why you go for direct pasing for this players? - man marking for DC,DMC why? - and last thing you took away creative freedom for strikers ok i think that understand why STC but for STR&STL i dont know i mean should these two must have much creative freedom to roam from his position to wing and the cuts inside or anythink else? thanks for the answers i yust want to understand how you look at the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 mr hough i have question about your rolls back the year defensive version of tactic:- in team instruction i notice that you increase tempo from 1 to 20 why that? isnt quick tempo force players to do more mistakes in pases? - you also increase passing for CD,DR,DL from 0 to 14 i still dont understand passing when to use sort or direct or when is beter first or second. so why you go for direct pasing for this players? - man marking for DC,DMC why? - and last thing you took away creative freedom for strikers ok i think that understand why STC but for STR&STL i dont know i mean should these two must have much creative freedom to roam from his position to wing and the cuts inside or anythink else? thanks for the answers i yust want to understand how you look at the tactic I think there is a Possiblity that the tempo will make players make mistakes but i want them to move the ball at a quick tempo to make sure we can counter and attakc at every possible opportunity. Man Marking on a DC and DMC only was a little theory i had, I though i could make them play as a 'Trio' of defenders so that the DC and DM mark the oppostion men and the FB's and MC's mark the Zonl area's. I firmly believe that when you give players Creative Freedom to are giving them a licence to ignore your instructions and do what they want, So i use it very sparingly or a least try to anyway. Giving players more CF works in certain tactics and instructions but it depends on how you set your team up mainly. Any more questions i'd be more than happy to answer them for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I decided to swap tactics after a bit of a poor run with 3 defeats in 4 games. I swapped to the m.u.f.c tactic with one striker and 2 wingers and as you can see from the pic (under the red line) its doing rather well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 can you put your version of the tactic up please? the one with the striker tweak.its on page 1 but you just have to tick target man and select the target man who you want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
irabbit Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 @crag : your tweak can use with smaller team ? : and what tactic you think the best in 12.0.4 ? @bealesy : match prep ? 12.0.4 ? Im from fm thai web and sorry for my bad english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 [@bealesy : match prep ? 12.0.4 ? Im from fm thai web and sorry for my bad english Match Prep is average and Defence Postioning and its for 12.1.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 @crag : your tweak can use with smaller team ? : and what tactic you think the best in 12.0.4 ? @bealesy : match prep ? 12.0.4 ? Im from fm thai web and sorry for my bad english yes it can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal107 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 its on page 1 but you just have to tick target man and select the target man who you want Do you change the player instructions for your Target Man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Do you change the player instructions for your Target Man?no as mr dave hough already used them on both strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haziqmck7 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I decided to swap tactics after a bit of a poor run with 3 defeats in 4 games. I swapped to the m.u.f.c tactic with one striker and 2 wingers and as you can see from the pic (under the red line) its doing rather well. ur winger is inside forward or the normal one...i mean right footed on left wing and vice versa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 ur winger is inside forward or the normal one...i mean right footed on left wing and vice versa... I play Lee Martin on the left who is left footed and either Josh Carson or Tommy Smith on the right who are both right footed. I do sometimes have to play a right footer on the left wing or left footer on right wing when players get tired or injured but I have not really noticed any difference when I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liniert Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I had good success with the MUFC version, till i saved then reloaded. Now im really struggling with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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