Leppard Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Gills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 That'll be their national anthem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hummels my MotM Agree with this 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I did expect more from Germany. But they will clearly just get better with each game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 1-0 to Germany. Not the greatest match though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Today wasn't as exciting as yesterday but then I didn't expect Group B to have amazing end-to-end football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Today wasn't as exciting as yesterday but then I didn't expect Group B to have amazing end-to-end football. I did, stupidly. Well, not end to end as such but better than what we got... Group C should be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababui Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I did, stupidly. Well, not end to end as such but better than what we got...Group C should be better. Better than what we got? Really? Could you ask for two closer and more exciting matches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 So proud to be German, many thought we would struggle today but we dominated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I did, stupidly. Well, not end to end as such but better than what we got...Group C should be better. Italy will be camped in their own half against Spain and Ireland will probably try to contain Croatia. I expect the same sort of games tomorrow like we've had today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 People always say "play to your strength's". Why is it Portugal always play to there weakness? They have a great attacking team,the best player in the competition but yet they play the defensive game against any decent team,they would be much better of just having a go,the last 20 minutes they were much better than Germany and created a couple of good chances..to little to late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Gomez is such a useless donkey, but he managed to get the goal and that's all that matters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I did, stupidly. Well, not end to end as such but better than what we got...Group C should be better. It was always going to be close because there are three really good teams and one underdog. I'm not holding out much hope for Group C either, especially the Spain vs Italy game. Croatia vs Ireland might be good but I expect the Irish to be ultra defensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Gomez is the German Inzaghi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 It was always going to be close because there are three really good teams and one underdog. I'm not holding out much hope for Group C either, especially the Spain vs Italy game. Croatia vs Ireland might be good but I expect the Irish to be ultra defensive. Ireland will surely not be ultra defensive against Croatia? Can't picture it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Gomeez is the German Inzaghi.Inzaghi would never squander as many chances as Gomez does. Pippo > * Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ireland will surely not be ultra defensive against Croatia? Can't picture it. Sarcasm surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Sarcasm surely? Its a game they need to win, i can't see them being that defensive. Though i don't watch Ireland much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalMaestro Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I never expected Germany to play its best football today or in this group simply because of the quality of the group. Their defence won them the game today. Hummels was dominant both in the air and on the ground . If Portugal chose to play how they played after the goal was scored for the whole match, the scoreline could of been different . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhoy Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ireland will surely not be ultra defensive against Croatia? Can't picture it. Ireland are always defensive under Trappatoni. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ireland are always defensive under Trappatoni. I forgot that. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_oc16 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 Its a game they need to win, i can't see them being that defensive. Though i don't watch Ireland much. Trap always sets them up to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Average match. Germany were average. Luckily for them, Gomez saved the day. Such a deadly striker. The only striker who delivers so far. Müller, though, should learn how to play football with hands. One touch, and he cried like a baby peeing in the diaper. Portugal were also average, but they were solid at the back. What a world-class defender Alves is. The midfield was also solid, but they missed creativity. Nani should play like he did in the second half from the beginning. FROM THE BEGINNING. Cristiano Ronaldo? Well, it doesn't help if your teammates don't deliver. I always want to see Postiga score, I've waited since 2004 or 2006, and he keeps me waiting. Hope doesn't end, though. To close this paragraph: Varela, oh, Varela. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibra8 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Disappointed with the result. I think the draw would be more fair. I guess it's the right punishment. We clearly could've attacked more, but only did it after conceding. Varela:mad: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Average match.Germany were average. Luckily for them, Gomez saved the day. Such a deadly striker. The only striker who delivers so far. Müller, though, should learn how to play football with hands. One touch, and he cried like a baby peeing in the diaper. Portugal were also average, but they were solid at the back. What a world-class defender Alves is. The midfield was also solid, but they missed creativity. Nani should play like he did in the second half from the beginning. FROM THE BEGINNING. Cristiano Ronaldo? Well, it doesn't help if your teammates don't deliver. I always want to see Postiga score, I've waited since 2004 or 2006, and he keeps me waiting. Hope doesn't end, though. To close this paragraph: Varela, oh, Varela. Wow . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ireland/Croatia will be dire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Gonzo Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 German attacking play was painfully slow. Some good crosses but nothing more. I really hope we will get better during the tournament. The good, the bad and the ugly Germany is back. 8-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Haha Georginho. Bruno Alves "world class" And I'm sure I saw Helder Postiga score in Euro 2004. But keep waiting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Alves is world-class. As good as the Brazilian in your favorite team. Postiga scored? Well, at least, it was long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceCrusher Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Funny that there are people saying Portugal are creative. Forget the stereotypes. Don't mistake technique with creativity. Portugal's biggest problem is exactly a big lack of creativity, the only creative midfielder is Hugo Viana who's on the bench. If they tried do dominate possession they would just concede sooner on the counter and still not score any. Denmark will be tough to beat if they don't make big mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Funny that there are people saying Portugal are creative. Forget the stereotypes. Don't mistake technique with creativity.Portugal's biggest problem is exactly a big lack of creativity, the only creative midfielder is Hugo Viana who's on the bench. If they tried do dominate possession they would just concede sooner on the counter and still not score any. The question though is which one of Veloso, Moutinho or Meireles do you drop for Viana? Meireles seemed to be the one that was trying to bridge the gap to Positga up top whilst the other two were doing a decent enough job (for me anyway) of stopping the pockets of space forming that Ozil loves to play in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ireland/Croatia will be dire My hopes for Group C have completely gone downhill these last few minutes. I'm not sure why i was so positive. :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceCrusher Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 The question though is which one of Veloso, Moutinho or Meireles do you drop for Viana? Meireles seemed to be the one that was trying to bridge the gap to Positga up top whilst the other two were doing a decent enough job (for me anyway) of stopping the pockets of space forming that Ozil loves to play in. Against Denmark I would drop Veloso, Meireles back to DMC. Having won the first game, they will play even more defensive than usual. And Oliveira has to start obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Also, I love how Ronaldo playing poorly was his teammates fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Funny that there are people saying Portugal are creative. Forget the stereotypes. Don't mistake technique with creativity.Portugal's biggest problem is exactly a big lack of creativity, the only creative midfielder is Hugo Viana who's on the bench. If they tried do dominate possession they would just concede sooner on the counter and still not score any. Denmark will be tough to beat if they don't make big mistakes. So untrue. They don't lack creativity but they are not allowed to show it. Playing Ronaldo on the left and Nani on the right wing gives you the creativity,they have good centre midfielder's to support them but the fact is they always play deep and counter attack until they are a goal down and then change the tactics. Once they change the tactics they always seem a better team in creating chances. Also I do not agree with them playing Ronaldo as a centre forward at times,you need him out wide to set up the chances or grab the chances from out wide when they present themselves. Is typical from Portugal though,any decent team they play they do not have the confidence to have a proper go,is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Also, I love how Ronaldo playing poorly was his teammates fault He didn't get many balls. When he did, he showed his class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceCrusher Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 So untrue.They don't lack creativity but they are not allowed to show it. Playing Ronaldo on the left and Nani on the right wing gives you the creativity,they have good centre midfielder's to support them but the fact is they always play deep and counter attack until they are a goal down and then change the tactics. Once they change the tactics they always seem a better team in creating chances. Also I do not agree with them playing Ronaldo as a centre forward at times,you need him out wide to set up the chances or grab the chances from out wide when they present themselves. Is typical from Portugal though,any decent team they play they do not have the confidence to have a proper go,is a shame. The creativity has to be on the middle, not the wings. The wingers should be receiving those killer passes from the middle, not making them. And the 3 midfielders are not creative. You will see Portugal dominate the match against Denmark possession wise and still struggle to create good chances, unless a goal happens very soon and Denmark push up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Portugal should keep Meireles and ditch one of the other two for Viana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 The creativity has to be on the middle, not the wings. The wingers should be receiving those killer passes from the middle, not making them. Wow honestly? Are you going to stick with that as your final answer or would you like to call a friend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Wow honestly?Are you going to stick with that as your final answer or would you like to call a friend?He's right though. You have to have a creative central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetram Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Against Denmark I would drop Veloso, Meireles back to DMC. Having won the first game, they will play even more defensive than usual.And Oliveira has to start obviously. Just looking at how Denmark lined up against the Dutch (4-2-3-1) could mean that Meireles could stay at MC and just dropping back to pick up Eriksen if and when needed, could help with having an extra body coming forward if there's a long period of possession. Although I don't know whether the Danes will line up the same way the did as today so that point may be moot. I agree that Oliveira has to start, he was a lot more lively than Postiga when he came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaceCrusher Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Wow honestly?Are you going to stick with that as your final answer or would you like to call a friend? Don't get your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 He's right though. You have to have a creative central midfielder. Yeah because having a team that only plays with holding midfielder's that feed the wings,or indeed a team with wing backs feeding the wings would not work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 What I loved was when Klose got shoulder barged by Pepe yet got up immediately to try and win the ball back. 90% of players would've rolled around for a couple of minutes, then gotten up clutching their back and making a face, while laying it into the ref for not giving a free-kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Haven't read the thread, but any predictable Ronaldo bashing!? Thought he played quite well actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hummels played fantastic tonight I must say, top performance, Portugal did a great job of stopping Germany up top although that wasnt too difficult as Gomez was doing jack all as usual up top, but then the lucky git gets the goal! The Dutch game will be very interesting now for sure, especially with them needing a win and I think we can really take advantage of that fact and Özil and co can use the gaps. I thought Neuer did well too and so did Khedira, the rest I think will get better as the tournament goes on, rather have them start playing poorly than playing great to be fair, can work on mistakes etc than if you overpower someone. 3 points tonight, main thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Hummels played fantastic tonight I must say, top performance, Portugal did a great job of stopping Germany up top although that wasnt too difficult as Gomez was doing jack all as usual up top, but then the lucky git gets the goal! WTF, in the first half he hit all of hits shots on target tonight and had his first goal disallowed - because the official decided to stop play after a foul by Raul Meireles on Özil. Plus Müllers crosses did target anything but him. Lahm was unusally rubbish throughout, though. Still, Germany need to pick up where they left off during the qualifiers - the pace, the movement, the interlinking of passes isn't anywhere NEAR where it had been during South Africa 2010 / qualifying campaign to the EURO 2012. Didn't catch the interviews as I watched the match on a birthday party but Löw likely isn't pleased in any kind of way. One of his dictums has it that players aren't allowed to stand stilll after completing a pass... the movement wasn't there. Still, they won. Holland didn't. End of day 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi_Rosario77 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Portugal at least deserve a point, but there were seriously unlucky. However, Fabio Coentrao was my man of the match. Up and down that left wing all night. Varela, why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Funny that I find no comments in the thread about that German goal that got chalked off because the ref didn't give the advantage. Atrocious decision, could have cost Germany the points. That was really an absolute standard example of when advantage should be given. It doesn't get more advantageous than a goal FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 There were no comments because Rui Patrício had stopped, didn't even attempt to dive for it, as well as at least one Portuguese defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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