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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gonch19:

we are signing torres. im sure of it

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only if we sell rvn tbh.

how much you reckon ronaldo would go for should we decide to sell?

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As the initial annoyance dies down I can very much see ACou's point to be honest, personally I don't think it is right to compare it to Beckham, they're very different people with different agendas.

But then I also agree with the others that he's gone about it entirely the wrong way and it does appear to be a way of him getting the move that he wanted.

So yeah, I'm fence sitting icon_frown.gif

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Ruud's scored in the Delle Alpi, the Bernabeu, the Olympiastadion in Munich, Stade Gerland, COMS, Highbury, Stamford Bridge, as well as a stupid number of goals against all the big teams at OT.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cottager:

why would you blindfold momo? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

try to improve his passing? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">originally posted by razor eddie:

quote:

Originally posted by pago:

i was getting worried what with the injuries to our centre backs, but i had forgotten that heinze and silvestre could play there. obviously i use that term loosely in the case of silvestre!

Thought I read somewhere that Gaby was injured.

Wrongly, obv. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i was only going by whoever posted the team news for the friendly game earlier. he's in the squad on that so i assumed he is getting near to fitness.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wfc15:

13m is way too much for Hargreaves.

It really is ridiculous that, prior to the World Cup, almost every England fan disliked Hargreaves, yet paying 13m is now considered acceptable. He played well for 3/4 games but he still has limited abilities. One minute he's unbelievably awful and is completely useless and the next minute, all Man U fans are urging Fergie to sign him. He's a decent player but he's worth 8.5m tops.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>when you take into account the fact that your average English fan can't manage the day-to-day minutiae of life, I'd say that Manchester United have got themselves a bargain.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

You weren't right ffs icon_biggrin.gif

Spitting is just so scummy ffs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was saying it sarcastically ffs icon_biggrin.gif

I dont think that little of you :*)

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

We've established that Richardson is pretty much useless in any position

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Wish someone would tell SAF and Maclaren that. We need to sell him while he still has some value.

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Carlos making friends, Giggs and Ronaldo doubts for saturday, Bayern on Hargreaves.

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Ferguson anger at Ronaldo ankle injury

Daniel Taylor

Friday November 17, 2006

The Guardian

Portugal's head coach, Luis Felipe Scolari, appears to have made another enemy by accusing Sir Alex Ferguson's assistant, Carlos Queiroz, of being underhand and economical with the truth in an escalating row about Cristiano Ronaldo's fitness.

In a sustained and typically outspoken attack Scolari also alleged that Queiroz is orchestrating a campaign to replace him as Portugal's head coach. He claimed that the man who preceded him in the job from 1991 to 1993 was "using the media" to promote himself and questioned why Queiroz repeatedly turned up at their Under-21 games.

"I don't understand his [Queiroz's] role in football but it seems to me that he is trying to return to the Portuguese national team, where I am already in charge," said Scolari. "It seems he is working on his candidacy for the position of national coach."

Queiroz has not responded to the allegations other than to point out that he is fully entitled to watch Portugal's younger players as part of his job. "We have a constant strategy whereby we always have a number of players we examine and give our attention," he said.

He has repeatedly been linked with vacancies away from Old Trafford, the latest being that of US national coach, but has often stated that he has no desire to leave England. United are dismayed by Scolari's handling of the matter, however, not least because Ronaldo returned from Wednesday's 3-0 defeat of Kazakhstan with a twisted ankle. The 21-year-old was withdrawn 56 minutes into the Euro 2008 qualifier having exacerbated an injury he picked up in United's 1-0 win at Blackburn. An ice pack was used to reduce the swelling.

Photographs of him grimacing in pain will cause United consternation before their game at Sheffield United tomorrow, particularly as Ferguson and Queiroz had questioned at the start of the week whether he should be withdrawn from the Portugal squad. "Ronaldo was fine to play," said Scolari, the man who this year turned down the chance to be England manager. "The issue here is that Queiroz has to maintain his image in front of the Manchester United fans. Publicly he said Cristiano was injured but, to us, he said he was well and that he would be OK to play. It is all a question of image."

Ronaldo will be tested today to determine if he can play tomorrow but United have one eye on Tuesday's Champions League tie at Celtic and may rest him anyway. Ryan Giggs is another concern, coming off at half-time in Wales's 4-0 defeat of Liechtenstein with an ankle problem.

Bayern Munich have warned Manchester United that €30m (£20.3m) in January would not be enough to tempt them to sell Owen Hargreaves, the 25-year-old England midfielder who is currently sidelined after breaking a leg two months ago. "We have thought about what to do if Manchester United make a good offer but we will not sell him," said Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the Bayern president.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

With the amount of people claiming their Evra comments were taken out of context, i'm wondering whether Mika hasn't missed his calling, and shouldn't be heading into journalism instead. I'm only surprised no-one claimed a mis-translation as well icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I was leaving college I did actually briefly consider the journalism path, maybe that can be a backup plan.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

it's a f**king rubbish opinion icon14.gif

try getting your noggin round this:

WE ARE ALL ENJOYING THE MOMENT, BUT WE ARE ALSO REFUSING TO STICK OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND IGNORE THE GLARING TACTICAL ERRORS THAT SAW US GO A GOAL BEHIND. IT IS POSSIBLE TO BOTH BE PLEASED WITH THE PERFORMANCE AND POINT OUT ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No need for the f**king insults icon14.gif

Tactics don't win games. Players do. Of course there's room to point out improvements. Maybe a little more happiness would go well with what has actually happened.

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Back operation for Terry

Chelsea captain John Terry has undergone a successful operation on his back.

Terry has missed the club's last four games with the complaint, but underwent surgery on the problem on Thursday.

The club have confirmed the operation was a success, but have not put a timescale on when the defender will be fit to return.

"Chelsea Football Club can confirm that today (Thursday) club captain John Terry underwent successful surgery following his back injury," read a statement on the club's official website.

"The operation took place in France following consultation between the Chelsea medical department and a leading neurosurgical specialist.

"The operation to remove a sequestrated lumbar intervertebral disc was successful and everyone at the club wishes John a speedy and full recovery."

During Terry's absence, Chelsea have kept just one clean sheet in four games - the 1-0 Carling Cup win over Newcastle United.

In the three Premiership fixtures Terry has missed, The Blues have conceded two goals in each match and now trail Manchester United by four points in the title race.

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Wont be out so long though. Talk of 2 weeks out at best but a more realistic time of 4-6 weeks out.

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he is the one person I just completely want to leave the club entirely so I never ever have to see his face again.

O'Shea I will always have some appreciation for because at least he was great - one year. Silvestre was pretty decent for a time and has done some good things down the years.

Richardson has NEVER been anything more than lower league level sh*te and all he's done is score a couple of long rangers - even they dont always deserve to go in.

The fact that even now he's worse than Silvestre/O'Shea/combined sums it up.

Die.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> MANCHESTER UNITED striker Louis Saha is still haunted by the spirit of Ruud van Nistelrooy.

And that is despite team-mates telling him the Dutch star’s exit was the best thing for him.

Saha, available after injury for today’s Premiership clash with Aston Villa, admitted: “My rivalry with Ruud wasn’t easy and still isn’t. Ruud has remained a legend here and it is enough for me to have an average 20 minutes for part of the crowd to chant his name.

“I did everything for our rivalry not to change our relationship. We both wanted to play and it is the manager who decided.â€

French compatriot Patrice Evra, though, feels boss Alex Ferguson did Saha a favour by selling Van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid.

Evra said: “The departure of Van Nistelrooy has set Louis free. He was feeling guilty at having taken his place. The episode really embarrassed him.â€

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, so long a United team-mate of Van Nisterooy, agreed Saha suffered in his rival’s presence.

He said: “For a long time Louis was in the shadow of Ruud, who absorbed all the light. Louis is an escapee from lengthy injury, like me. Now he is bursting out.

“For me, he is going to score more than Thierry Henry and finish top Premiership scorer.â€

Saha is in the running today to add to his eight league goals, claiming: “I want to score 15 to 20 Premiership goals.†</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Getting more and more sick of his moaning by the day. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree. As if you'd make constant references to a player who left six months ago now. He should just move on.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

Hypothetical question time, would it have made any difference had Hargreaves played for us today? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had the exact same thought during the match. I think his qualites at breaking up play would have suited a match like this perfectly. Their midfield became more increasingly in control as the match went on - I think he would make a telling difference.

The match was so so annoying but kind of predictable. Still, I'd have taken maintaining the six point gap before the weekend.

Also Evra was fantastic today icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

He doesnt deserve to be hated though and his fall from grace has been swift. It wasnt so long ago he was a favourite in here.

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I don't think he has had a fall from grace, attitudes to him have been pretty consistent from what I can see. You're the one doing most of the hating ffs. icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

James and Keyser worse than me by a mile. Getting ****ed off during a match because his poor passing or finishing is hardly hate.

My stance has always been that hes a good squad player but really needs to work on his end product.

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People say Giggs was awful yesterday, but some of his and Evra's link up play in the first half was fb.

Evra becoming first choice over Gabby possibly the least expected thing to have EVER happened during my time as a United supporter. He was utterly utterly utterly abysmal at the start, and Gabby was fb.

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Get in! icon_biggrin.gif

Top class performance in first half, took our foot off the gas in the second. I don't think anyone can say anthing else about Ronaldo, his overall contribution today was outstanding and (I'll probably get stick for saying this but ah well) I REALLY liked seeing him in the middle driving towards defenders and them not having a clue which way he was going to go.

Rooney had his best game in ages and took his goals really well, especially his second and he looked like the Wazza of old (lets just hope this continues). Also thought Park and Carrick both had very good games, Park in the first half worked his socks off and deserved his two goals and Carrick did well to stop balls being threaded into Anelka and Diof. The back four looked top notch again Heinze had another good game at left back (we have some excellent competition with him and paddy in this position), Rio & Vida had their usual top class game and never put a foot wrong and Wes was back to his best.

Only real thing that unerved me today was Kuszack, cant remember him doing that much wrong tbf, but every time theres a cross into the box , he looks as if he's going for it and then goes back on his line, it must be a nightmare for Rio & Vida as they dont know if he's coming for the cross or not.

Said before this that the Blackurn game was worrying me more than this and I still belive that is a tough game, with the form they are in , just hope Wayne & Ronnie rip them to shreds like they did today.

MoM: Ronaldo

2nd: Rooney/Park/Carrick

Affg: Not sure, didn't really get a good view of it, will comment more after Motd.

Bolton fans so awfully crap, soon as third goal went in saw a few go down stairs in their enclosure into the concourse's . We out sung their support in first half, I don't remeber that happening before (maybe bar Liverpool this season), or at least thats what it sounded like from North Stand, Such small time supporters.

6 More Wins

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well we spent £12.5m on Ronaldo wasn't it. That appeared to be quite expensive at the time but has turned out to be an absolute snip.

Both of these players are being signed on deals which will no doubt see a lot of the money played dependant upon future success. Future success that if they do provide will no doubt be worth every penny. Also from what I've read its about 25 million euros for each of them. Which is possibly slightly overpriced but damn sure beats Shevchenko at £30m.

Building such an awesome team for the future.

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Best Chant/Song. surprisingly close this, some decent ones to choose from:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

He plays on the leeeeeft...

Nemanja, woah

United Calypso

Mourinhooo are you listening

Glazer in a coma

Hollow hollow hollow...

Chin up Mourinho

She wore a scarlet ribbon

Citeh's massive floodlights

We shall not be moved

Park Park...

Two Lee Martin's </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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