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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

my underwear </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

While i'm sure your underwear could incapacitate the entire chelsea team, they wouldn't score, so the best they would manage would be a nil-nil draw. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seeings as the rest won't give you a sensible answer mark, James posted it in the City thread. Therefore it's "that lot" from down the road.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rcjuk:

I saw evra twice tonight at the trafford centre.

must have thought I was stalking him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice cover for when you get caught Ryan icon14.gif

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christ... you doom merchants. icon_biggrin.gif

6/1 a pretty realistic appraisal of our chances really. win the next three games, and the league is pretty much in the bag. boro and watford hardly the sort of opposition that should stop us reaching the fa cup final. roma eminently beatable if we pull our fingers out. same with milan/bayern.

by that rationale, 6/1 not far wide of the mark at all.

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Before Manchester United won the treble, was there as much discussion as there is now regarding any team's chances of winning it whenever a team was still in all three competitions in February/March?

I suppose it happened a lot less often because the CL was champions only up until the late 90's but when it did, would the idea of winning the treble be mentioned often by commentators, journalists, and players/management? It gets brought up a lot considering how unlikely it is, even when talking about other teams.

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The United Thread Stat-tacular 2006-7: post-Smogland

Appearances:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | 26 | 8 | 1 | | 35 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 23 | 6 | 3 | | 32 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 19(2) | 3(2) | 2(1) | 0(1) | 24(6) |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 8(5) | 3(1) | 3 | 2 | 16(6) |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 28 | 6(1) | 4 | | 38(1) |

6. Wes BROWN | 9(4) | 3 | 3 | 2 | 17(4) |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 25(1) | 7 | 3(1) | 1 | 36(2) |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 25(1) | 8 | 2(2) | 1 | 36(3) |

9. Louis SAHA | 18(6) | 5(1) | 2 | | 25(7) |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 20(2) | 4 | 3 | | 27(2) |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 6(6) | 0(1) | 4 | | 10(7) |

14. Alan SMITH | | 0(3) | | 2 | 2(3) |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 22 | 7 | 3 | | 32 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 21(3) | 8 | 4 | | 33(3) |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 5(2) | 2 | 3(1) | | 10(3) |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 23 | 7(1) | 1(1) | | 31(2) |

19. Giuseppe ROSSI | | | | | |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 6(6) | 1(3) | 3(1) | 1 | 11(10) |

21. DONG Fangzhuo | | | | | |

22. John O'SHEA | 10(14)| 4(3) | 2(1) | 1 | 17(18) |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 4(4) | 0(3) | 1 | 2 | 7(7) |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 12(6) | 3(2) | 2(2) | 1 | 18(10) |

25. David JONES | | | | 2 | 2 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 6(8) | 3 | 2 | 2 | 13(8) |

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK | 3 | | 3 | 2 | 8 |

34. Ryan SHAWCROSS | | | | 0(2) | 0(2) |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 0(2) | 0(2) |

36. David GRAY | | | | 1 | 1 |

41. Philip MARSH | | | | 1 | 1 |

42. Michael BARNES | | | | 0(1) | 0(1) |

49. Ritchie JONES | | | | 1 | 1 |

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Goalscorers:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 16 | | 1 | | 17 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 10 | | 3 | | 13 |

9. Louis SAHA | 8 | 4 | 1 | | 13 |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 6 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 10 |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 4 | 2 | | | 6 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 5 | 1 | | | 6 |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 3 | 1 | | | 4 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 3 | | | | 3 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 3 |

22. John O'SHEA | 2 | 1 | | | 3 |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 2 | | | | 2 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 1 | | 1 | | 2 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 1 | | | | 1 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | | | 1 | | 1 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 1 | | | | 1 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | | 1 | | | 1 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 1 | | | | 1 |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 1 | 1 |

Own Goals | 2 | | | | 2 |

| | | | | |

Totals | 66 | 12 | 10 | 2 | 90 |

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Penalties:

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7. Cristiano RONALDO 3/4

9. Louis SAHA 3/4

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Penalties won:

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7. Cristiano RONALDO 3

5. Rio FERDINAND 1

8. Wayne ROONEY 1

11. Ryan GIGGS 1

13. PARK Ji-Sung 1

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER 1

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Assists:

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7. Cristiano RONALDO 11

8. Wayne ROONEY 11

11. Ryan GIGGS 10

9. Louis SAHA 9

2. Gary NEVILLE 4

3. Patrice EVRA 4

16. Michael CARRICK 3

6. Wes BROWN 2

13. PARK Ji-Sung 2

18. Paul SCHOLES 2

23. Kieran RICHARDSON 2

24. Darren FLETCHER 2

4. Gabriel HEINZE 1

5. Rio FERDINAND 1

14. Alan SMITH 1

15. Nemanja VIDIC 1

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER 1

22. John O'SHEA 1

27. Mikael SILVESTRE 1

49. Ritchie JONES 1

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At Fault For Goal:

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5. Rio FERDINAND 4

27. Mikael SILVESTRE 4

2. Gary NEVILLE 3

4. Gabriel HEINZE 2

22. John O'SHEA 2

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR 1

3. Patrice EVRA 1

6. Wes BROWN 1

7. Cristiano RONALDO 1

13. PARK Ji-Sung 1

15. Nemanja VIDIC 1

16. Michael CARRICK 1

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK 1

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Clean Sheets:

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Charlton away (EPL)

Tottenham home (EPL)

Benfica away (CL)

Newcastle home (EPL)

FC Kobenhavn home (CL)

Liverpool home (EPL)

Bolton away (EPL)

Portsmouth home (EPL)

Blackburn away (EPL)

Everton home (EPL)

Aston Villa away (EPL)

Watford home (EPL)

Tottenham away (EPL)

Charlton home (EPL)

Lille away (CL)

Liverpool away (EPL)

Lille home (CL)

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Yellow Cards:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 7 | 1 | 1 | | 9 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 7 | 2 | | | 9 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 4 | 2 | | | 6 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 4 | 1 | | 1 | 6 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 2 | 1 | | 1 | 4 |

6. Wes BROWN | 2 | | | 1 | 3 |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 1 | 2 | | | 3 |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 3 | | | | 3 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 2 | 1 | | | 3 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 2 | 1 | | | 3 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 2 | | | | 2 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 2 | | | | 2 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 1 | | 1 | | 2 |

22. John O'SHEA | 2 | | | | 2 |

9. Louis SAHA | 1 | | | | 1 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | | 1 | | | 1 |

25. David JONES | | | | 1 | 1 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | | 1 | | | 1 |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 1 | 1 |

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Red Cards:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 1 | | | | 1 |

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Average Goals Per Game: 2.80 (123 in 44)

Average Goals Scored Per Game: 2.05 (90 in 44)

Average Goals Conceded Per Game: 0.75 (33 in 44)

Games Won When Scoring First Goal: 28/32 (87.50%)

Games Drawn When Scoring First Goal: 3/32 (9.37%)

Games Lost When Scoring First Goal: 1/32 (3.13%)

Games Won When Conceding First Goal: 5/12 (41.67%)

Games Drawn When Conceding First Goal: 2/12 (16.66%)

Games Lost When Conceding First Goal: 5/12 (41.67%)

Games Won When Leading At Half-Time: 16/18 (88.89%)

Games Drawn When Leading At Half-Time: 2/18 (11.11%)

Games Lost When Leading At Half-Time: 0/18

Games Won When Drawing At Half-Time: 16/24 (66.67%)

Games Drawn When Drawing At Half-Time: 3/24 (12.50%)

Games Lost When Drawing At Half-Time: 5/24 (20.83%)

Games Won When Losing At Half-Time: 1/2 (50%)

Games Drawn When Losing At Half-Time: 0/2

Games Lost When Losing At Half-Time: 1/2 (50%)

Time of Goals Scored:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

0 - 15 mins | 10 | | 3 | | 13 |

15 - 30 mins | 8 | | 1 | 1 | 10 |

30 - 45 mins | 9 | 4 | 1 | | 14 |

45 - 60 mins | 12 | 3 | 1 | | 16 |

60 - 75 mins | 15 | 3 | 1 | | 19 |

75 - 90 mins | 14 | 2 | 1 | | 17 |

Extra Time | | | | 1 | 1 |

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Time of Goals Conceded:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

0 - 15 mins | 2 | | | | 2 |

15 - 30 mins | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 5 |

30 - 45 mins | 4 | 1 | 1 | | 6 |

45 - 60 mins | 2 | | 1 | | 3 |

60 - 75 mins | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 9 |

75 - 90 mins | 5 | 1 | 1 | | 7 |

Extra Time | | | | | |

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Manner of Goals Scored:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

Left foot | 13 | 6 | 2 | | 21 |

Right foot | 42 | 2 | 6 | 2 | 51 |

Head | 12 | 4 | | | 16 |

Opponent | 2 | | | | 2 |

| | | | | |

Inside area | 59 | 9 | 5 | 1 | 74 |

Outside area | 9 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 16 |

| | | | | |

Open play | 57 | 7 | 7 | 2 | 73 |

Set piece | 6 | 3 | | | 9 |

Direct freekick | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

Penalty | 4 | 1 | 1 | | 6 |

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Manner of Goals Conceded:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

Left foot | 6 | 4 | | | 10 |

Right foot | 9 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 14 |

Head | 4 | | 4 | | 8 |

United player | 1 | | | | 1 |

| | | | | |

Inside area | 15 | 2 | 6 | | 23 |

Outside area | 5 | 3 | | 2 | 10 |

| | | | | |

Open play | 15 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 22 |

Set piece | 2 | | 3 | | 5 |

Direct freekick | 1 | 2 | | 1 | 4 |

Penalty | 2 | | | | 2 |

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Form

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Last Six (All comps): WWWWWD

Last Six (Prem/ship): LWWWWW

Home (All comps): WWWWDW

Home (Prem/ship): WWWWWW

Away (All comps): WWWWWD

Away (Prem/ship): WDLWWW

Games Unbeaten: 11 (all comps), 5 (premiership)

Consecutive Wins: 0 (all comps), 5 (premiership)

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Attendances:

Highest - 76,073, vs Aston Villa (Premiership, 13/01/07)

Lowest - 70,608, vs Reading (FA Cup, 17/02/07)

Total - 1,573,961 (21 games)

Average - 74,951

Part-Timer Watch:

Sevilla home - BBB left early, missed two goals

Portsmouth home - BBB flogged his ticket to feed his chocolate habit

Dubiously-legal female charity collectors ogled from the wall:

Ten

Delicacies enjoyed at the wall:

Beer

Pork pies

<STRIKE>Cheesecake</STRIKE>

Jammy dodgers

Forthcoming Fixtures

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17.03.07 Bolton Wanderers (H) Premiership

19.03.07 Middlesbrough (H) FA Cup Quarter Final Replay

31.03.07 Blackburn Rovers (H) Premiership

04.04.07 AS Roma (A) Champions League Quarter Final 1st Leg

07.04.07 Portsmouth (A) Premiership

10.04.07 AS Roma (H) Champions League Quarter Final 2nd Leg

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CAREER STATS

Appearances:

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| Prem | EUR | FAC | TCC | Other | Total |

| | | | | | |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 438(58)| 99(6) | 50(7) | 25(5) | 12(1) | 624(77) |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 348(15)| 100(6) | 41(3) | 16(1) | 8(1) | 513(26) |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 300(64)| 88(12)| 24(10)| 11(5) | 10 | 433(91) |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 148(80)| 35(44)| 15(13)| 8(3) | 6(3) | 212(143)|

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 222(24)| 60(7) | 19(2) | 13(1) | 7 | 321(34) |

6. Wes BROWN | 133(20)| 37(6) | 22(2) | 16(1) | | 208(29) |

22. John O'SHEA | 122(33)| 34(11)| 14(2) | 17(1) | 1(1) | 188(48) |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 143(1) | 36(1) | 13(1) | 9(1) | 1 | 202(4) |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 89(32)| 25(3) | 15(3) | 8 | | 137(38) |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 70(15)| 18(7) | 9(6) | 10 | 0(1) | 107(29) |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 83(8) | 19 | 10(3) | 5(2) | | 117(13) |

9. Louis SAHA | 46(23)| 6(6) | 5(3) | 9 | | 66(32) |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | 64 | 16 | 3 | 3 | | 86 |

14. Alan SMITH | 37(15)| 10(6) | 0(5) | 4(2) | 1 | 52(28) |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 16(18)| 5(10)| 7(1) | 11(2) | 0(1) | 39(32) |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 36(7) | 12(1) | 7 | 4 | | 59(8) |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 29(17)| 0(7) | 5(1) | 3 | | 37(25) |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 31(2) | 7 | 5 | 0(2) | | 43(4) |

3. Patrice EVRA | 26(6) | 3(2) | 2(2) | 1(2) | | 32(12) |

16. Michael CARRICK | 21(3) | 8 | 4 | | | 33(3) |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 5(2) | 2 | 3(1) | | | 10(3) |

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK | 3 | | 4 | 2 | | 9 |

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Goals:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Other | Total |

| | | | | | |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 98 | 25 | 10 | 7 | | 140 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 94 | 22 | 12 | 8 | | 136 |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 90 | 20 | 8 | 7 | | 125 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 37 | 4 | 6 | 2 | | 49 |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 34 | 1 | 7 | 2 | | 44 |

9. Louis SAHA | 23 | 4 | 3 | 7 | | 37 |

14. Alan SMITH | 7 | 2 | | 1 | 1 | 11 |

22. John O'SHEA | 7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 10 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 6 | 2 | 1 | | 1 | 10 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | | 9 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 5 | 2 | | | | 7 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 7 | | | | | 7 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 1 | 2 | 1 | | | 4 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 4 | | | | | 4 |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 2 | | | 1 | | 4 |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 3 | 1 | | | | 4 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 1 | 1 | 1 | | | 3 |

6. Wes BROWN | 1 | 1 | | | | 2 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 1 | | 1 | | | 2 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 1 | | | | | 1 |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | | | | | | 0 |

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK | | | | | | 0 |

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Potential Milestones:

* Ryan GIGGS needs four more appearances to reach 500 in the Premiership

* Ryan GIGGS is one away from 100 European starts

* Gary NEVILLE is two away from 350 Premiership starts

* Ole SOLSKJAER is two away from 150 Premiership starts

* PARK Ji-Sung is four away from 50 Premiership appearances

* Nemanja VIDIC is three away from 50 United appearances

* Mikael SILVESTRE is four away from 250 Premiership appearances

* Louis SAHA is two away from 100 United appearances

* Ryan GIGGS is two away from 100 Premiership goals. Paul SCHOLES is six away from the same landmark, and Ole SOLSKJAER ten.

* Wayne ROONEY is one away from 50 United goals. Cristiano RONALDO is six away from the same landmark.

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Reserves Update

Appearances (FAPRL, MSC & LAC): Kieran Lee 18, Michael Lea 13(1), Tom Heaton 13, Michael Barnes 12(4), Jamie Mullan 12(2), Aaron Burns 11(4), Daniel Rose 11, Ryan Shawcross 10, Séan Evans 9(2), Ritchie Jones 9, Alan Smith 9, Craig Cathcart 8(3), Philip Marsh 8(3), David Gray 7(1), Christopher Eagles 7, Dong Fangzhuo 6, David Jones 6, Floribert N'Galula 6, Sam Hewson 4(2), Tomasz Kuszczak 4, James Chester 3, Kieran Richardson 2, Thomas Cleverley 1(1), Lee Crockett 1(1), Wes Brown 1, Richard Eckersley 1, Darren Fletcher 1, Liam Miller 1, Ji-Sung Park 1, Giuseppe Rossi 1, Mikael Silvestre 1, Danny Simpson 1, Febian Brandy (6), Christy Fagan (3), Daniel Drinkwater (1), Magnus Wolff Eikrem (1)

Scorers: Burns 7, Marsh 7, Barnes 3, Brandy 2, Rossi 2, Eagles 1, S Evans 1, Gray 1, D Jones 1, Lea 1, Lee 1, Richardson 1, Rose 1, Shawcross 1, Smith 1, own goals 1 (Webster, Wigan)

Premier Reserve League North Table:

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P W D L F A GD Pts

1. M'boro Res 13 8 2 3 26 17 +9 26

2. B'burn Res 14 6 4 4 12 9 +3 22

3. Man Utd Res 12 6 3 3 19 10 +11 21

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Next Fixture:

15.03.07 Sheffield United (H), FAPRL(N) @ Hyde 7pm

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Academy Update

Appearances (Academy and FAYC): Christy Fagan 23(2), James Chester 23, Febian Brandy 21(1), Richard Eckersley 19, Daniel Drinkwater 18(4), Benjamin Amos 18, James Derbyshire 17(3), Sam Hewson 17(2), Craig Cathcart 16, Magnus Wolff Eikrem 13(3), Daniel Galbraith 13(2), Thomas Cleverley 13(1), Daniel Welbeck 12(10), Antonio Bryan 12(9), Conor McCormack 12(4), Corry Evans 9(6), Ron-Robert Zieler 8(1), Kenny Strickland 7(1), Michael Lea 7, Nicky Ajose 3(2), Joseph Dudgeon 2, Oliver Norwood 1(2), Séan Evans 1, Scott Moffatt 1, Jamie Mullan 1, Matthew James (4)

Scorers: Brandy 13, Fagan 8, Welbeck 7, Hewson 7, Bryan 3, Cathcart 2, Drinkwater 2, Ajose 1, Chester 1, Eikrem 1, Evans 1, Galbraith 1, Lea 1

U18 Academy Group C Table (as of 9/3/07):

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P W D L F A GD Pt

5. Crewe Yth 22 9 2 11 35 40 -5 29

6. Man Utd Yth 21 8 4 9 39 35 4 28

7. L'pool Yth 21 5 7 9 20 25 -5 22

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Next Fixture:

17.03.07 Middlesbrough (H), Academy Group C @ Carrington

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Assists and at-fault-for's up for debate ofc. Suggestions for further stats welcome.

added......

l'pool: o'shea goal, ronaldo assist, carrick/nev yellows, scholes red, clean sheet

lille: larsson goal, ronaldo assist, ronaldo/richardson yellows, clean sheet

boro: rooney/ronaldo goals, giggs assist, rio won pen, tommy/rio affg's, larsson yellow

THERE. that took ages.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeafParrot:

What a load of guff icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

p*sses all over your season (haha) tracker from an ALMIGHTY height and you know it

Mickey poised to overtake Ole's overall appearance total. scandalous icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AllStar4:

Before Manchester United won the treble, was there as much discussion as there is now regarding any team's chances of winning it whenever a team was still in all three competitions in February/March?

I suppose it happened a lot less often because the CL was champions only up until the late 90's but when it did, would the idea of winning the treble be mentioned often by commentators, journalists, and players/management? It gets brought up a lot considering how unlikely it is, even when talking about other teams. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dunno about the press etc as I'm obviously not In England but one of my clear memories of those last two months is the bloke at every match (home and away) with the 'now for the treble' banner with pictures of the three trophies and fe-rg-ie across all three.

He obviously thought it was going to happen

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Just thinking, Smith must play the whole game tonight. Get another match under his belt.

I dont think he is ready to start for us yet but had we given him more playing time in recent games.

Anyway please god Fergie realise it should be Park and Giggs on the wings and Ronaldo up front when it comes to the next few games without strikers.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

christ... you doom merchants. icon_biggrin.gif

6/1 a pretty realistic appraisal of our chances really. win the next three games, and the league is pretty much in the bag. boro and watford hardly the sort of opposition that should stop us reaching the fa cup final. roma eminently beatable if we pull our fingers out. same with milan/bayern.

by that rationale, 6/1 not far wide of the mark at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd probably pretty much agree on the fa cup, if it weren't for the fact that we'll probably need to put out virtually a reserve side. As for the other two, how the league is in the bag when we have only 1 striker who can tick even one of the two boxes of 'fit' and 'in form' i have no idea. Two draws where we batter the opposition but fail to score and a defeat to Chelsea and that's the lead gone. Add that to how we can be confident against anyone in europe given our recent poor form in the competition in general, and away from home in particular, none of it's looking certain, let alone winning all three.

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love the pessimism. fact is, united have a head of steam, the best player in the world and the fear of their opponents.

as soon as all this treble talk starts, the players start to believe it and it inevitably follows. i'll be amazed if it doesn't.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

christ... you doom merchants. icon_biggrin.gif

6/1 a pretty realistic appraisal of our chances really. win the next three games, and the league is pretty much in the bag. boro and watford hardly the sort of opposition that should stop us reaching the fa cup final. roma eminently beatable if we pull our fingers out. same with milan/bayern.

by that rationale, 6/1 not far wide of the mark at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd probably pretty much agree on the fa cup, if it weren't for the fact that we'll probably need to put out virtually a reserve side. As for the other two, how the league is in the bag when we have only 1 striker who can tick even one of the two boxes of 'fit' and 'in form' i have no idea. Two draws where we batter the opposition but fail to score and a defeat to Chelsea and that's the lead gone. Add that to how we can be confident against anyone in europe given our recent poor form in the competition in general, and away from home in particular, none of it's looking certain, let alone winning all three. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well played Mark, that's clearly the most realistic assessment of our current situation possible.

Realism > Pessimism > Optimism

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by benkeat:

expert analysis there. you and andy townsend should team up in a new series of the tactics truck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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We've got more chance of the FA Cup than the league, tbf.

Simply can't believe how blase people are about the league. There's approximately a quarter of the season to go, we've effectively got a 6 point with our closest rivals away still to come. We haven't turned in a convincing performance in about a month, we're beset by injuries up front (with the exception of Rooney, who's woefully out of form), and our small squad is set to be stretched even further with our continued involvement in three competitions and additional meaningless friendlies. Our remaining league games incorporate some tough away fixtures against top half sides (not to mention a potentially crucial fight-for-your-life derby) alongside home games against recent 'bogey' teams. Meanwhile, Chelsea continue to steadily improve, with squad players stepping up to the plate and important first teamers coming back from injury ready for their easier run in.

Without coming over all Mika, they're back as marginal favourites in my eyes.

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In all honesty tonight should be a good game. Just so ****ing stupid. Why the feck couldn't we wait until the end of the season?

Plus points from tonight: Smith gets some game time and hopefully as its an exhibition match we will go all out attack and prove to Ferguson that we can beat European opponents this way.

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your 4 home games left should be wins. that leaves: Portsmouth, Everton, Chelsea and Man city to play away. I'm sure fergie will get your team up for the game at Man city since it's them and it's right at the end of the season.

Basically you can afford to lose to Portsmouth and Everton and Chelsea and still win the league because chelsea are hardly going to win the rest of their games.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gregg Carter:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikey G:

you've won the league ffs. Chelsea are playing naff </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So are we. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you're not the ones having to do the catching.

Just realised that I bet our result against chelsea will decide whether you win or not. icon_biggrin.gificon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Saha:

am basically worried that the likes of gerrard and carragher will run onto the field holding steel chairs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

watching too much wrestling dude.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mikey G:

your 4 home games left should be wins. that leaves: Portsmouth, Everton, Chelsea and Man city to play away. I'm sure fergie will get your team up for the game at Man city since it's them and it's right at the end of the season.

Basically you can afford to lose to Portsmouth and Everton and Chelsea and still win the league because chelsea are hardly going to win the rest of their games. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, because iirc we have a 100% PERFECT record of ensuring home wins against teams like Blackburn. Like last ye... oh.

Do I even have to mention the Sunderland game as well?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

christ... you doom merchants. icon_biggrin.gif

6/1 a pretty realistic appraisal of our chances really. win the next three games, and the league is pretty much in the bag. boro and watford hardly the sort of opposition that should stop us reaching the fa cup final. roma eminently beatable if we pull our fingers out. same with milan/bayern.

by that rationale, 6/1 not far wide of the mark at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd probably pretty much agree on the fa cup, if it weren't for the fact that we'll probably need to put out virtually a reserve side. As for the other two, how the league is in the bag when we have only 1 striker who can tick even one of the two boxes of 'fit' and 'in form' i have no idea. Two draws where we batter the opposition but fail to score and a defeat to Chelsea and that's the lead gone. Add that to how we can be confident against anyone in europe given our recent poor form in the competition in general, and away from home in particular, none of it's looking certain, let alone winning all three. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

which is precisely why we're at six to ****ing one, and not odds on.

seriously, i think some of you get paid in big titted blonde wenches with interweb geek fetishes to point out our potential shortcomings at times.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

christ... you doom merchants. icon_biggrin.gif

6/1 a pretty realistic appraisal of our chances really. win the next three games, and the league is pretty much in the bag. boro and watford hardly the sort of opposition that should stop us reaching the fa cup final. roma eminently beatable if we pull our fingers out. same with milan/bayern.

by that rationale, 6/1 not far wide of the mark at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd probably pretty much agree on the fa cup, if it weren't for the fact that we'll probably need to put out virtually a reserve side. As for the other two, how the league is in the bag when we have only 1 striker who can tick even one of the two boxes of 'fit' and 'in form' i have no idea. Two draws where we batter the opposition but fail to score and a defeat to Chelsea and that's the lead gone. Add that to how we can be confident against anyone in europe given our recent poor form in the competition in general, and away from home in particular, none of it's looking certain, let alone winning all three. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

which is precisely why we're at six to ****ing one, and not odds on.

seriously, i think some of you get paid in big titted blonde wenches with interweb geek fetishes to point out our potential shortcomings at times. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. Too many people keep saying we're going to fail ffs.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Meanwhile, Chelsea continue to steadily improve, with squad players stepping up to the plate and important first teamers coming back from injury ready for their easier run in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

what? we've conceded first in each of our last four games after a spell of 9 clean sheets in 10. That's not improving. Spurs on Sunday wasn't an improvement in performance, neither was the first halves of Porto home and away and the Cup Final.

Squad players aren't really stepping up either, it's still largely Didier and Essien. Drogba, Robben, Ballack, Shevchenko, Lampard have scored our recent goals, and OK, Kalou has a couple more recently, but it's a minority of squad players contributing.

Joe Cole and JT are the two players we'll have come back, both are massively important but Cole isn't likely to be back in time to make an impact. Mid April is a conservative estimate.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alilaw:

Simply can't believe how blase people are about the league. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed, I guess it's the whole "fate/omg it's meant to be" idea that has only been encouraged by the events of the last few weeks, and it is hard to avoid being sucked into that but things do seem to be suggesting that it is our year, and have been for a while.

But then putting all that aside and looking at the facts like you do, it's pretty clear that there is still a long way to go and a lot of potentially tricky games to negotiate before it is "in the bag."

Mon Saha returning and not taking too long to get up to speed *fingers crossed*

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The thing is i think we're all realistic if we're honest about our chances in that we have as good a chance as any of the other sides of winning each competition so long as we stay in them.

However, we all have a different way of dealing with things. There the optimists, cautious and pessimists.

Nothing wrong with any of the attitudes really because off of us have different ways of dealing with how we're shaping up going into the end of the season.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

Agreed, I guess it's the whole "fate/omg it's meant to be" idea that has only been encouraged by the events of the last few weeks, and it is hard to avoid being sucked into that but things do seem to be suggesting that it is our year, and have been for a while. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

oi! icon_mad.gif

you can slate my optimism all you like, just don't start throwing 'bandwagon' **** in there. icon13.gif

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