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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

CHAMPIONS relates to winning the league, change it you jcl scummer </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

haha, yeah good night i guess.

mark, you gonna head down afterwards? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure if i'll have chance, but there's a possibility.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rcjuk:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JulesMUFC:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

CHAMPIONS relates to winning the league, change it you jcl scummer </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

whs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Getting lectured by a day tripper?icon_biggrin.gif

NO WAY HOSE A! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

rather be a day tripper than a jcl icon_frown.gif 9 times1!11

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

haha, yeah good night i guess.

mark, you gonna head down afterwards? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure if i'll have chance, but there's a possibility. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

okay dude, you have my number icon14.gif

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We simply have to be signing a winger with comments like this and Park's injury

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Manager Sir Alex Ferguson has backed Ryan Giggs to complete another two seasons with Manchester United - but the Welshman's days as a wing wizard are over.

Giggs will collect his ninth Premier League winners' medal after Sunday's Old Trafford encounter with West Ham before setting his sights on becoming only the fourth player in history to win the FA Cup five times in next weekend's showdown with Chelsea.

With Gary Neville almost certainly missing out, Giggs will have the honour of leading United out at Wembley. And should the Red Devils emerge triumphant, he will join Phil Neal as the most decorated player in English football of all-time with 17 major honours.

And, if Ferguson is correct, the chances are Giggs will eventually claim the record for himself, as well as reaching Sir Bobby Charlton's club-best 759 United appearances.

"Ryan can play for the next two years without question," said Ferguson.

"He has the right physique and has looked after himself, so I have no issues with any of these things.

"Quite remarkably he has retained most of his pace. Okay, he may not be absolutely greased lightening as he was as a 17-year-old but he is still quick enough and retains the great ability to beat men in tight situations."

That ability, coupled with the emergence of Cristiano Ronaldo, has allowed Giggs to spend more time causing havoc in central positions, meaning the loss of free-scoring Ruud van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid last summer had no impact on United's finishing power at all.

And, at 33, Ferguson feels Giggs will be of more use to him in future by pushing inside more often.

"It suits Ryan to be in a far more protected position," said Ferguson.

"For 15 years he has been tramping up and down that touchline. There is no player in the Premiership who has done that. They have all either died, been shoved aside or folded. But he has been amazing in terms of having the capacity to keep wanting to do it."

Ferguson also appears quite happy to let Giggs combine his United duties with his international commitments to Wales.

At times, Giggs' desire to play for his country has been questioned.

However, first under Mark Hughes and now John Toshack, who has appointed the Cardiff-born star as his captain, Giggs appears to have found a happy medium.

"John Toshack has been very accomodating and helpful in understanding Ryan's situation and age," said Ferguson.

"There is good harmony between John and Ryan. When Ryan has needed a rest he has got one.

"I have not discussed it at all with Ryan. As long as he is happy with the situation, I am happy to go along with it."

It is amazing to think that Giggs was overlooked for United's last cup final appearance in favour of Darren Fletcher.

The long-serving winger, who has made 714 appearances for the club, has no such fears for his place this time around.

Indeed, with Neville and Louis Saha almost certain to miss out, Ferguson's only real selection dilemmas concern the right-back role, where Wes Brown is favoured to edge out John O'Shea, and in attack, where the Scot's options include naming Alan Smith as an orthodox striker or pushing Wayne Rooney further forward, a move that would allow Fletcher to bolster United's midfield.

Either way, Ferguson is hoping England's top two can produce a final to remember.

"I am sure it will be competitive," said the United boss.

"Both sides will be ready for a battle. But I also hope the final represents England in the right way.

"We have been talking about the improvement in the English game, about three teams getting to the semi-final of the Champions League and how the Premiership is probably the best league in Europe.

"It is an opportunity to make people say these are the right two teams to play at the first game at Wembley. That is the way we should both be thinking." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Gossip column is a bit amusing today:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Manchester United have turned down a "sensational" £850m takeover bid from a Chinese consortium. (News of the World) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

More like the Glazers turned it down.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">With tongue firmly in cheek, Eric Cantona has claimed to be the greatest French footballer of all time. (Sunday Times) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The definitely going to be joining Manchester United, no doubt about it, cos the papers say so list

Mikel Arteta - Everton (Guardian)

Gareth Bale - Southampton (Mirror)

Dimitar Berbatov - Spurs (Guardian, Sunday Mirror)

Jermain Defoe - Spurs (Guardian)

Samuel Eto'o - Barca (Daily Mail)

Eidur Gudjohnsen - Barca (NOTW)

Owen Hargreaves - Bayern Munich (Times)

Klaas Jan Huntelaar - Ajax (Guardian)

Benni McCarthy - Blackburn (NOTW)

Youssouf Mulumbu - PSG (Youssouf Mulumbu)

Nani - Sporting Lisbon (Guardian)

Michael Owen - Newcastle (Various + BBC)

Franck Ribery - Marseille (Himself via Sky)

Micah Richards - Manchester City (Mirror)

Steve Sidwell - Reading (Mirror)

Carlos Tevez - West Ham (Star, Mirror)

Fernando Torres - Atletico Madrid (Mirror)

Running Total: 17

Predicted Final Total

Irish – 170

James07? – 112

bling – 102

pjburrage – 99

WSR – 95

theis – 92

alilaw – 89

Nezell – 87

14AlanSmithifb – 85

Hero of the day – 83

vanester – 82

T!mbo – 80

BBB – 79

gonch19 – 78

Bagpuss – 77

Rb – 76

Pickles – 74

julesMUFC – 71

ajw2255 – 70

Nick OGS20 – 68

Maverick – 64

davidbowie – 63

Ryno – 62

ACou2000 – 60

Gregg Carter – 59

Jimlad – 56

ericcantona7 – 55

Matt Cavanagh – 54

mark g – 52

keyser – 50

player_65 – 46

SLO_Fila – 43

Taz Devil – 41

Saha – 39

The_Fish – 37

finneys13 – 36

Master Blasta – 32

EmmYouEffSee – 29

RedBlood – 26

qwerty2k – 17

<STRIKE>Razor Eddie – 16</STRIKE>

<STRIKE>? – 15</STRIKE>

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Probably best to keep them in alphabetical order as the list grows we don't want duplicates...so put the new ones in bold.

We've had our 1st two fallers.

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Oh, and the NOTW have done their season ratings...and as usual they take some believing.

10

Ronaldo

Rooney

9

Giggs

Ferdinand

Scholes

8

Neville

Van Der Saar

7

Evra

Vidic

Smith

Park

Solskjaer

O'Shea

Carrick

Fletcher

Brown

Richardson

6

Saha

Heinze

Silvestre

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

The takeover. Got to say i'm all for anyone who does it without loads of stupid debt that puts the club in trouble and will invest in the club/squad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

Oh, and the NOTW have done their season ratings...and as usual they take some believing.

10

Ronaldo

Rooney

9

Giggs

Ferdinand

Scholes

8

Neville

Van Der Saar

7

Evra

Vidic

Smith

Park

Solskjaer

O'Shea

Carrick

Fletcher

Brown

Richardson

6

Saha

Heinze

Silvestre </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rooney a 10. To suggest he has been on a par with Ronaldo is an all out joke, to suggest he has been better than most of the squad as well. icon_biggrin.gif

Richardson a 7, why cant people who have seen us play do the ratings?

Saha a 6 despite being fantastic in the first half of the season before all his injuries. He netted 13 times with some good and important goals.

And to say Vida and Evra no better than the majority.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

The takeover. Got to say i'm all for anyone who does it without loads of stupid debt that puts the club in trouble and will invest in the club/squad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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agreed however the potential list of guys who could do that is getting smaller.

Not heard much of this Chinese consortium, and the NOTW are very sketchy on the details.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> You finished your football career 10 years ago, at only 30. Do you feel any nostalgia for the time when you were playing?

It happens, yes. Nostalgia can be a pleasant feeling. Childhood memories, music, a smell can make us nostalgic. In football it is more an overall ambience than a game or a special stadium. The game, the dressing room, the field . . . When I went back on the pitch at Old Trafford for [the French television station] Canal+, it reminded me of memorable moments that I cannot live any more. However, we must not talk about that forever. There are other things in life.

What memories do you have of your last official game, on May 11, 1997?

It was against West Ham. I had swapped my jersey with a guy. I heard that he sold it at an auction, probably for a charity. (He smiles.)

What did you feel when you left the field?

Nothing. Because I wanted to quit. I had had enough. And I was telling myself that I could come back if I wanted. I thought, ‘You are young. You train two months and you are back’. I kept on thinking that for a long time. Then, six months ago, I realised that even if I trained for two months, it would not be enough.

Why had you had enough of the game?

I did not have the flame any more. Football was my life, my childhood passion. When the flame disappears, why continue? To go to the Middle East for €300 billion? I was not interested in that.

Did the fact you were not selected any more for the French national team hasten your decision?

With the World Cup coming up in 1998, I certainly would not have stopped in 1997. If we had won the European Cup with Manchester that year, I probably would not have quit either.

Did you ever think of staying in football, becoming a coach, an agent or a TV commentator?

For a long time, thinking I could come back as a player helped me. So today I think I can come back as a coach. I know the doors are still open. Therefore I will never come back. If they were closed, it would probably make me want to break them down.

When the flame was blown out, was it because of the game or the environment?

The environment contributed a lot. Manchester was a lot about merchandising. Sometimes they need you to do a tape, give interviews, write books, take pictures . . . To avoid my image and name being used all over the place, I signed precise contracts with the club. I gave them the exclusivity on my pictures. However, they did not respect it. I went to see [sir Alex] Ferguson, then the chairman [Martin Edwards] to talk about it. I told them: beware, things are happening.

One morning before a game, on my way to eat breakfast, I saw myself on the front page of a paper. Some people do not care being on a tabloid’s front page. They are even proud of it. Well, it destroys me, even if I am on my way to play, it becomes more important than the game. I live it as treason. So on the day I said I was quitting, I told the club: “Okay, I quit, but you should know that I am still suing the merchandising.â€

Did you go to court?

Of course. And I won.

You did not want to become a product?

No. I asked them to take everything away. And it is gone now.

If you played today, it would be more difficult, wouldn’t it?

The problem in Britain is that we cannot control anything. The country is great for many things, but is really ugly concerning everything linked to image, the press. It is not that it is hard to bear. I did it for five years, but it is sick.

When you quit, did you have a precise idea of what you would be doing 10 years later?

I wanted to become an actor. However, I was not sure about anything. Ten years later, it makes me proud to be able to do films.

What room do you leave for football in your life today?

None. The only room is in my head and memories.

What was the last game you went to see?

It was last year at the Nou Camp for Barcelona v Valencia.

And on television?

(He thinks for a while.) I remember seeing Roma against Lyon for the Champions League. But I do not like to watch games because it makes me want to play. And I do not want to depend on that feeling.

What do you think of Manchester United now?

There is the football Manchester and the merchandising Manchester. These two worlds coexist, but for me Manchester United is the club, it is football. A culture of the “beau jeuâ€, a philosophy that has been existing for years. How to win with class. I am still madly in love with it.

What do you think about your successor in the legendary No 7 shirt, Cristiano Ronaldo. Is he worthy of it?

Last season he did not score any goals. We had the impression he did not care. Something was missing. Now he scores and he is a new player. World class. One of the 10 best players on the planet. In modern football, playing as a team is very important, but we always need that kind of player who is going to strike out, to provoke.

Like Ronaldinho at Barcelona?

Exactly. If the opposition can control your tactics, you need to be able to count on one individual who can make the difference.

Is Ronaldo a different No 7 from the one you were?

Yes and no. For me, it was important to score, but I did not look for it at all costs. If I had a 51% chance to score, I would give it a go. If the team had a 51% chance to score, I would pass the ball. Because it is a pleasure to pass a good ball, it is like a gift. On that, Ronaldo and I are not very different. But we are different in the style. He carries more the ball.

What was the move you liked the most?

I loved putting the ball where nobody expected it, on the condition that it was efficient. Everybody expects you to pass the ball to your left, and you do it on your right. The ball is in the running trajectory of the player, the game becomes more fluid and surprising. When you know how to do that, you have 10 times more opportunities because the players around you know you can throw the ball anywhere at any moment. So they spread out on the field.

Did you have favourite teammates to pass the ball to?

No. There are players who are better than others at owning the space. Mark Hughes liked to receive the ball with his back to the goal and put it back in. You could mix different techniques in small spaces. Guys like [Ryan] Giggs or [Andrei] Kanchelskis loved to own all the space. United’s tactic was: we rely on Mark Hughes. I get the ball and, before I even receive it, the two others go.

What do you retain from your experience in Manchester? For example, do you take inspiration from Ferguson’s speeches when you are coaching your beach football team?

Ferguson did not really speak about our style in his speeches. Our game tactic was well-honed, we did not have to adapt to the opposition. He spoke more about the details. If the goalkeeper did not like low balls, on what side a defender would get in trouble . . . But most of all, he always ended saying: “And now enjoy the game. Have fun.†It is a brilliant speech because you have worked all week and everything is here for you to enjoy. You have fun when you have worked well.

Have you ever heard a speech like that in a French dressing room?

In France you get either, “Come on, let’s go!†(he hits the back of his right hand with the left). Let’s go, but where? How? Or you get the presidents saying: “You have to wet your shirt [with sweat].†A little simplistic, don’t you think? You do not go to war on a field. Or you get precise speeches: “Act like this, not like that . . .†It makes you forget the notion of pleasure. I think it is still the case today.

More calculation than pleasure?

In France you defend more than elsewhere. If you play with five offensive players, the other team will have cold feet and put out seven defenders. Otherwise, there are at least six defenders. Even if on the other side there is just one attacker. Why not then put five offensive players? The best defence can be the attack. We do not see that in the French championship.

Did it change you when you turned 40? Are you still the “French enfant terrible�

Is that how I was called? I do not think I changed a lot. I would still be able to jump on a guy in the stands.

You look calmer.

I still occasionally blow a fuse. Even if I have learnt to know myself better with time. My ultimate goal is to be totally zen. I have always wanted that.

You were at the final of the World Cup. What did you think of Zinedine Zidane’s headbutt?

I did not see it. I was in the stadium with my son. He called a friend who told him. What Zidane did means many things. He goes to a World Cup final as if he was playing outside his building when he was a kid. He takes his penalty with a flick, which is wilder for me than butting [Marco] Materazzi. For him, football is all about the pleasure of playing. He did not plan it. But hold on . . . I do not condone headbutting.

Wouldn’t it have been better to win the World Cup?

You do not like it when one of your players is sent off. But Zidane won a World Cup, a European Championship and led us to the final in 2006. We should not forget that. I would rather say we lost because of [the coach, Raymond] Domenech. From the beginning of the second half the Italians refused to attack. He should have put on an attacker. When you see Thierry Henry centring the ball and there is no one to get it, what is the point of having four defenders and two central defenders? It is a tactical mistake, worse than Zidane’s butt. We cannot take all the good and refuse the rest. An artist of that level is weak and strong at the same time.

A player like Michel Platini did not need those excesses. He was still a brilliant player.

I do not think Platini would have had the craziness to take the penalty Zidane took in a World Cup final.

So, in the big debate on who between the two is the greatest French football player, you would vote for Zidane?

No, it is me. (He smiles.) But I feel closer to Zidane as a player.

Do you recognise yourself in him? You also had a dark side.

I am not defending myself by defending others. But I can understand since I have lived the same kind of situations.

How did you feel after you karate-kicked the spectator at Crystal Palace? Did you feel guilty?

The next morning I did not really analyse the situation. I did not know what happened or what was going to happen. I was not really aware of things. Of course I was not proud of myself. We are just men, with a fragile side. It does not matter if a man suffers. It does not matter if a man cries. That highly strung sensibility might enable you to move mountains later.

Did you need to create these breaks to go forward?

When the hooligan called me “a French son of a bitch†. . . I had heard it 50 billion times before. However, on that day I did not react as I used to. Why? I never found any answer to that.

How do you explain that your kick was severely judged in France, whereas Zidane was widely forgiven for his butt?

It all depends on what you have given to people and where. I mostly gave to Manchester, so the people there forgave me, like the French forgave Zidane.

What would you want people to say about Eric Cantona the football player in 50 years?

I lived football as it is supposed to be lived. Like a game you have to play honestly. The first thing is to work hard, without losing the notion of pleasure. I hope that is what people will retain from me. With my dark sides as well.

We worried about you at one point. We worried this dark side would take you into the abyss, like other great players such as Diego Maradona or George Best.

Maradona, Best lived for and by football. The day they retired, they had nothing but their memories. I have the chance to express myself somewhere else. I have other passions, other interests. I do not only live in the memory of what I have been.

This article first appeared in L’Equipe’s special tribute to Eric Cantona. Translation by Camille Février

Red with a bit of devil: the career of Cantona

- After a nomadic career in France involving six clubs in eight years, Eric Cantona began his career in England when he made a surprise move to Leeds United in 1992 - and helped the Yorkshire club to the title

- He then signed for Manchester United that autumn for £1.2m, one of football’s greatest bargains

- During his five years at Old Trafford, Cantona won four Premiership winners’ medals and the FA Cup twice, scoring the winner in the 1996 final against Liverpool

- The only season he finished without a medal was in 1994-95, during much of which he was suspended after his most infamous act - a karate kick at a Crystal Palace supporter who taunted him as he left the field afer being sent off

- True to form, the eccentric Cantona told a press conference afterwards: ‘When the seagulls follow the trawler, it’s because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea’

- He was sentenced to 120 hours’ community service

- After being persuaded to carry on playing he led United to yet another title in 1996-97 before retiring abruptly aged just 30. His final match for United was against West Ham on May 11, 1997

- He has since become an actor in French films and captain of the French beach football team

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Manchester United is the club, it is football. A culture of the “beau jeuâ€, a philosophy that has been existing for years. How to win with class. I am still madly in love with it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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From one awesome Frenchman to another

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Patrice Evra admits he's had a dream season with Manchester United this campaign.

Evra was voted into the Premiership's Team of the Year by fellow players, and in the final reckoning with Chelsea has a chance to help United to become the first side to complete four league and FA Cup doubles.

"This has been a really big season for me," says Evra, who will turn 26 on Wednesday. "I know how lucky I am to be at a huge club like Manchester United, and the idea of not succeeding never even crossed my mind. I knew what I had to do to turn things round, and I put my head down and got on with it."

Spurred on by the added disappointment of missing out on France's World Cup campaign, Evra used time on his hands last summer to ensure that his United career was back on track.

"I realised that being quick wasn't enough - you have to be strong too - so I worked my socks off in the gym to build myself up. I was there for the whole pre-season, too, and that was a really important period for me. It helped me to get to know my team-mates better, and to start all over again."

Evra was working out intellectually, too, the United museum and a collection of books and DVDs helping to complete his education.

"When you arrive in a new club, you shake hands with all these people, but you don't really know who everybody is. I wanted to know the names and stories behind the faces," he reflects. "I learnt about the tragedy of the Munich plane crash, and all the great players from the past. I felt like I needed to know all that and take it in to better understand the club. Now I can say I feel like a real Mancunian!" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Hopefully that Giggs article will signal the Arrival of Nani for us.

With Parky coming back from injury next year means he can be the regular back up to Nani and Ronaldo with Giggs playing in that role if we absolutely need it.

Giggs then to be an impact player for us in short bursts towards end of games when we need something extra icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

I'm not digging at you gregg but have you even seen Nani play? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who do you think you are? Juni? icon_biggrin.gif

Personally I'd go for Barnetta of Leverkusen, impressed me last year in the World Cup, and has done well when I've seen him playing for Leverkusen this year. Two footed, quick, and young. More of an out and out winger than I think Nani is.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

I'm not digging at you gregg but have you even seen Nani play? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not seen much. Just the odd clips on Sgorio a couple of times this season and a few on Eurogoals. He looked exciting in the clips i've seen. Mainly, like you am basing it on how Ronaldo raves about him.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

Personally I'd go for Barnetta of Leverkusen, impressed me last year in the World Cup, and has done well when I've seen him playing for Leverkusen this year. Two footed, quick, and young. More of an out and out winger than I think Nani is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Impressed me so much I have no idea who he is! In fact isn't he one of the morons who missed a peno vs Shevas lot?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Impressed me so much I have no idea who he is! In fact isn't he one of the morons who missed a peno vs Shevas lot? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah thundered it against the bar. His goal against Togo was good though.

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