JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I think the Dutch have looked the better side, been more of the ball in the Argentine half than anywhere else. But it's a very even and boring game...so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2014 Tough guy:cool: Or if you prefer, a guy who might have no idea where he is and has been allowed to further risk himself by a bunch of unprofessional medics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwoodrob Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Very good tactical game I think and the odd half chance popping up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Two lots of 4-5-1 trying to outcrab each other. Netherlands playing more of a 541 or 361, depending on whether they have it or not. But yes, it's very tentative atm. A simple 3-5-2. Kuijt and Blind are holding the sidelines. De Jong with Wijnaldum and Sneijder in front of him. Robben and Van Persie up front, with Robben roaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Or if you prefer, a guy who might have no idea where he is and has been allowed to further risk himself by a bunch of unprofessional medics. Happened before. Complete shambles really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 A simple 3-5-2. Kuijt and Blind are holding the sidelines. De Jong with Wijnaldum and Sneijder in front of him. Robben and Van Persie up front, with Robben roaming. I don't think Robben is playing up front, he's too deep and too wide to be viewed as a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Sly from Martins Indi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The kick on Sneijder was nasty...might've done some real damage to him. Seems like he's having some real difficulty with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2014 A simple 3-5-2. Kuijt and Blind are holding the sidelines. De Jong with Wijnaldum and Sneijder in front of him. Robben and Van Persie up front, with Robben roaming. Looks more like a 631 imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Netherlands playing more of a 541 or 361, depending on whether they have it or not. But yes, it's very tentative atm. At the moment, it feels like this is going to be decided by a set-piece or otherwise go to ET & pens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Looks more like a 631 imo[/img] I think that only occurred because de Jong dropped deep - he's generally further ahead than the defence but not as far ahead as Sneijder/Wijnaldum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Or if you prefer, a guy who might have no idea where he is and has been allowed to further risk himself by a bunch of unprofessional medics.Why would they be unprofessional medics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why would they be unprofessional medics? For letting him back on. People just fall over of their own accord with nothing at all wrong all the time iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Messi giving Van Gaal a bit of a tactical masterclass at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't think Robben is playing up front, he's too deep and too wide to be viewed as a striker. Because his task is to roam all over the place. With Van Gaal's typical 4-3-3 abandoned, he still wants to play Robben. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 For letting him back on. People just fall over of their own accord with nothing at all wrong all the time iirc.Their job is to make sure the health of the player is not in danger. Why would they let him back on? They wouldn't be doing their job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why would they be unprofessional medics? Risking a players health and well being is very unprofessional. Their jobs as medical professionals should be to look after the sports person first and foremost, regardless of whether the player feels he can play or not. A medic in a boxing match, for example, wouldn't let a fight continue if there was a concussion. Neither would the referee. Because both know they have to look out for the boxer before anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2014 Their job is to make sure the health of the player is not in danger. Why would they let him back on? They wouldn't be doing their job. There's no way they'd have been able to run a standard concussion test (of any quality anyway) in the time it took to get him seen to and back on, therefore they're not doing their job properly, but then nobody is because head injuries are still treated terribly amateurishly in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Kuijt should play with us. A nice type for our front three in 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Messi acts childishly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Risking a players health and well being is very unprofessional. Their jobs as medical professionals should be to look after the sports person first and foremost, regardless of whether the player feels he can play or not. A medic in a boxing match, for example, wouldn't let a fight continue if there was a concussion. Neither would the referee. Because both know they have to look out for the boxer before anything else. This isn't boxing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwoodrob Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Come on Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Rojo!! Too high! Play it along the ground. Great pass by Messi though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 This isn't boxing. And what relevance is that? I was just using it as an example of what a medical professional should do in the event of head injuries. Mascherano still suffered a heavy knock to the head and a mild brain injury is very common in such events. He should be tested for concussion before being allowed back on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Pretty close game. Argentina edging it so far but not too much in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 There's no way they'd have been able to run a standard concussion test (of any quality anyway) in the time it took to get him seen to and back on, therefore they're not doing their job properly, but then nobody is because head injuries are still treated terribly amateurishly in football.And yet Boxing referees have a standing ten count (plus a few seconds here and there) to judge someone who's been knocked down and then begins to stand up and then lets it continue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The Netherlands are out of fuel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 And yet Boxing referees have a standing ten count (plus a few seconds here and there) to judge someone who's been knocked down and then begins to stand up and then lets it continue? This isn't boxing. That's a measure of a man's energy levels, fitness, determination and will. Not a test of their brain's status. When a man is down, the referee can tell almost immediately under what circumstances it is through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Gonzalo having a right paddy at the end there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted July 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2014 He should be tested for concussion before being allowed back on the pitch. And to elaborate on that, nothing short of this standard (obviously tailored to the specific sport) should suffice as a concussion test. http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2014/02/20/0ap2000000327062.pdf Theoretically takes a coupla minutes at most and dramatically reduces the risk of problems developing. Mascherano might feel alright now but could develop symptoms hours, days, months, weeks or years later if it turns out he was allowed to carry on with a brain injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 LVG to give Argentinians free tactical lessons in the 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpillBlood Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Looks more like a 631 imo Glad someone else saw that . Think Netherlands have to change something if they want to win. Unless it's aim for penaltys and put Krul on again . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Notice Messi is gradually dropping deeper to start plays because not much is happening. Robben anonymous so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The difference in defensive organization between both sides playing today and yesterday's Brazil is staggering. I've been unable to watch most of the first half properly, but from what I saw it appeared highly interesting despite the total lack of major goalscoring opportunities - if that makes any sense. Two good sides playing at the top of their game and trying to outwit each other. Find it much more interesting than say, most of Holland-Costa Rica the other day, or even the hugely disappointing lunchtime matches of France-Germany and Argentina-Belgium. This one's defensive but evenly matched and intense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 LVG to give Argentinians free tactical lessons in the 2nd half. Hope they're of a better standard than his first half lesson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 So it's half time and I've come to the conclusion I really want to see Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The Netherlands have been like this in every world cup game so far, giving nothing away, doing nothing themselves. Argentina looking slightly better than them, but the Netherlands have always turned it on closer to the end... Wonder whether they can do the same now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 This isn't boxing. That's a measure of a man's energy levels, fitness, determination and will. Not a test of their brain's status. When a man is down, the referee can tell almost immediately under what circumstances it is through. Godamn using my own reverse examples I always want the health of the player as paramount to the forefront of the game of course...I just would rather the professionals could be able to judge it and let them continue if necessary...even if that means an 'informal' sub so the player can be 'tested out' if you get what I mean. I'd hate it if a player who maybe could continue wasn't allowed, maybe because the other team just tried to take them out (a long shot of it happening of course).Hope that makes it clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Game had so much potential but both sides are more scared of losing rather than want to win. Has anything happened yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Bore draw. This really is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 So it's half time and I've come to the conclusion I really want to see Dawn of the Planet of the ApesI thought that looked like a parody or something. Couldn't believe it was a real film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Highlight of the half was Mascherano walking around like me after about 15 pints to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why do ITV use HOL instead of NED? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why do ITV use HOL instead of NED? To be fair, the Dutch fans themselves chant "Holland". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I thought that looked like a parody or something. Couldn't believe it was a real film What! Looked great. Take it that was Caesar. I'm pumped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I thought that looked like a parody or something. Couldn't believe it was a real film It's the sequel to Rise of the Planet of the Apes. It's as bad as the title suggests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Godamn using my own reverse examples I always want the health of the player as paramount to the forefront of the game of course...I just would rather the professionals could be able to judge it and let them continue if necessary...even if that means an 'informal' sub so the player can be 'tested out' if you get what I mean. I'd hate it if a player who maybe could continue wasn't allowed, maybe because the other team just tried to take them out (a long shot of it happening of course).Hope that makes it clear I get what you're saying and I agree - I think we're both sort of agreeing with each other here without realising. Mascherano wasn't properly tested for a brain injury and it's worrying that he was allowed back on because he simply went "I'm fine", more or less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Bruno Martins Indi and Blind don't look particularly solid in the left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwoodrob Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The difference in defensive organization between both sides playing today and yesterday's Brazil is staggering.I've been unable to watch most of the first half properly, but from what I saw it appeared highly interesting despite the total lack of major goalscoring opportunities - if that makes any sense. Two good sides playing at the top of their game and trying to outwit each other. Find it much more interesting than say, most of Holland-Costa Rica the other day, or even the hugely disappointing lunchtime matches of France-Germany and Argentina-Belgium. This one's defensive but evenly matched and intense. Agree,i think an Argentina goal would force the Dutch to play more open and the game would take off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why do ITV use HOL instead of NED? They used BOS instead of BIH and they use SPA instead of ESP as well. ITV think their viewers are morons, basically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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