daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 You guys are all arguing the same case, it is 29m pounds with Navas included, that = €40m with Navas included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Damnit. So busy at work today. Seems like we have just sold most of our side. Navas in the deal? If he is anything like WC, that just doesn't seem so bad. Martial? WTF? W.T.F. He better start out by pulling up a tree in training. This is nuts, frankly. We needed a proven option at striker so that Rooney could go back to playing his number. Hoping he is special, but this is wildly overspending for potential. Prove me wrong, please. With our current net spend as I read it above, seems like we still have a big, insane deal left in us. And as Dion said, we need that special player....We need that special player... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 You guys are all arguing the same case, it is 29m pounds with Navas included, that = €40m with Navas included. yeah this is my fault for misreading euros as pounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Im just struggling to get my head round the departures still. We're struggling to score goals and we ship out Hernandez, Januzaj and possibly Wilson (not forgetting Falcao and Van Persie). Tomorrow has got to be hectic as we can't just be bringing in Martial Martial aside, We need a striker and a CB as a minimum. A winger would be a bonus also but can't see that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Im just struggling to get my head round the departures still.We're struggling to score goals and we ship out Hernandez, Januzaj and possibly Wilson (not forgetting Falcao and Van Persie). Tomorrow has got to be hectic as we can't just be bringing in Martial Martial aside, We need a striker and a CB as a minimum. A winger would be a bonus also but can't see that happening. None of those mentioned really bring us many goals though do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm a bit pissed off about this deal, despite it being to Liverpool's advantage by virtue of being to Man Utd's disadvantage. De Gea is a quality goalie, and probably third in the world for me (though I'm sure many of you would argue for him being second) and I don't think £29m is enough, last year of his contract or not. I wish he'd kept his mouth shut about wanting a move, but I guess you can't really blame him, as it's impossible to pass up the chance to sign for Real, really. Navas is decent, but he's no De Gea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 None of those mentioned really bring us many goals though do they? But they're numbers and options to change things. Rooney get's injured or carries on with his current crapness there is literally no one else. We're potentially going into a season with JUST Rooney (and a very unproven Martial who seems like more of a wide player). Navas, Romero - GK Darmian, Valencia - RB Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Blind - CB Shaw, McNair - LB Schweini, Morgan S, Carrick - CM Herrera, Fellaini, Pereira - AM Mata, Lingard - RW Depay, Young - LW Rooney, Martial - CF Just take Rooney out of that and look what we're left with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 martial covers striker and winger roles, i guess is the thinking, but either way we still need a proven striker to replace rooney (who i don't know). to me it's the cb that would be the bonus, and we're definitely in the market for one, but i wouldn't be surprised if we don't get one before the window closes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 will leave the accountancy to icon for a full net spend financial breakdown when the window closes I am too depressed to do numbers, just so meh unless we get someone else in. martial covers striker and winger roles, i guess is the thinking, but either way we still need a proven striker to replace rooney (who i don't know). to me it's the cb that would be the bonus, and we're definitely in the market for one, but i wouldn't be surprised if we don't get one before the window closes. Martial is like a sexier Welbeck then. in fact Martial is what Welbeck was when he was younger and had not yet sullied his reputation in 1.5 ***** seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 LVG is not going to buy someone to replace Rooney, with one up front and two wide players, Rooney is going to be the first name down - that's all so obvious from the relationship between the two. Therefore any striker is going to be a backup and nobody big name will move in that scenario, that's why we're buying these youngsters, who are also adaptable by being able to play wide. Memphis, Mata, Martial behind Rooney is what will happen, with Young and ? Covering. Both Memphis and martial can play striker if Rooney is injured or Fellaini,if what LVG has said is right about him. It's the cover positions that's the problem, outside of Young and very unproven youngsters, Lingard, Perreira. But Herrera can cover as well. Don't think it's that bad tbh. Not brilliant mind, but not a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Rooney would/should be pushed back to 10 leaving 9 open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Martial takes Lingards spot and Fellaini stays as Rooney's back up imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Martial takes Lingards spot and Fellaini stays as Rooney's back up imo 36mil to be a backup?. No chance! Get out of here Boots.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 LVG is not going to buy someone to replace Rooney, with one up front and two wide players, Rooney is going to be the first name down - that's all so obvious from the relationship between the two. Therefore any striker is going to be a backup and nobody big name will move in that scenario, that's why we're buying these youngsters, who are also adaptable by being able to play wide.Memphis, Mata, Martial behind Rooney is what will happen, with Young and ? Covering. Both Memphis and martial can play striker if Rooney is injured or Fellaini,if what LVG has said is right about him. It's the cover positions that's the problem, outside of Young and very unproven youngsters, Lingard, Perreira. But Herrera can cover as well. Don't think it's that bad tbh. Not brilliant mind, but not a disaster. Given the number cleared out, United are planning to panic some more tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Navas to RM was only 10m because he had only 1 year left iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Rojo also rumoured to be off ffs... make that 2 CBs we need tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 36mil to be a backup?. No chance! Get out of here Boots.. Nah Mata goes behind Rooney and Herrera is shunted back to the bench (or vice versa) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Crazy business recently, Evans going right after we've strengthened the defence, hernandez going when we need goals and the best keeper in the league last season gone, United imploding from the inside it seems. Oh and Januzaj, one of our more attacking wingers has also gone on loan, surely not a spending spree approaching after last season.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I don't really understand what you guys are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Given the number cleared out, United are planning to panic some more tomorrow. I think the same, I can't see Man Utd going until January with so little depth, I would expect to see at least 1 player that will improve the starting 11 and another 1 or 2 to add some depth. The way it is now, Utd are just 2 injuries away from having a 'crisis'. It would just be the way things go that they don't sign anyone else and after the internationals this weekend they have 2 or 3 players out injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Dare to Zlatan. That is all that can save the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Maybe the mice can help us out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Something about tomorrow and to stay tuned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Navas to RM was only 10m because he had only 1 year left iirc they paid his buyout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 rooney would/should be pushed back to 10 leaving 9 open. this........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazkul Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 DOES ANYONE SPEAK FRENCH?! I REPEAT, DOES ANYONE SPEAK FRENCH????His brother is a massive United fan at least... it worked with BFS... From Google translate: Tomorrow, it will return true! Stay connected # çamatche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 This Rojo stuff can't be true, surely? Starting to look like LVG is making the biggest heel turn of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Actual french speaking people you think a man as well versed in international pornography as me can't use google translate? People that speak French will tell you the same thing, it is very cryptic in what he is saying, now go take a French course numnuts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 This Rojo stuff can't be true, surely? Starting to look like LVG is making the biggest heel turn of all time. Seeing as Smalling has a history of being as brittle as a piece of Blackpool Rock, We'd be one injury off a McNair and Blind defence. Madness. (Seeing as he's injured more than he's fit, Jones doesn't count) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory utd Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Actual french speaking people you think a man as well versed in international pornography as me can't use google translate? It'll make sense tomorrow. Stay tuned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Seeing as Smalling has a history of being as brittle as a piece of Blackpool Rock, We'd be one injury off a McNair and Blind defence. Madness. (Seeing as he's injured more than he's fit, Jones doesn't count) The window for most europeans leagues to buy just closed iirc. So can't see where he could go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 What will make sense tomorrow? Why won't you tell me now?! Could be anything, maybe he is signing a new contract, maybe he bought a new dog, as I said, it is all very cryptic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Well I hope these Rojo rumours aren't true. Rojo-Smalling would definitely be our best CB pairing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Well I hope these Rojo rumours aren't true. Rojo-Smalling would definitely be our best CB pairing. Can't see him joining another English club so highly unlikely he leaves tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 How long is he still out for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 How long is he still out for? He isn't 'out' as far as I'm aware. Just not match ready, he's training with the team and played 60 mins in a friendly v an Ajax XI on Thursday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 How long is he still out for? He's not injured. Van Gaal just obsessed with players being "match sharp". Played 60mins in an under 21's friendly last Thursday(?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Doubt Rojo will jump seeing how much he tweets about United, his most recent being yesterday. #RojoIsRed Being pushed on the other hand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Draxler has gone to Wolfsburg. What's happened there? He's was getting linked with everyone 18 months ago. Been injured or just rubbish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Looks like we've come out of this better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Doubt Rojo will jump seeing how much he tweets about United, his most recent being yesterday. #RojoIsRedBeing pushed on the other hand... Rojo actually is red though. Means nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Draxler has gone to Wolfsburg. What's happened there? He's was getting linked with everyone 18 months ago. Been injured or just rubbish? Mixture of the two, poor season last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Looks like we've come out of this better... No 'handling', 'Shot stopping' or 'one on ones'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Draxler has gone to Wolfsburg. What's happened there? He's was getting linked with everyone 18 months ago. Been injured or just rubbish? Wolfsburg chucked a huge chunk of the De Bruyne pennies at Schalke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Andrew Cole @vancole9 Got my phone on loud just encase get a last min call to come out of retirement #DeadlineDay Rojo actually is red though. Means nothing. ****. Already bet my house on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlander Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Draxler has gone to Wolfsburg. What's happened there? He's was getting linked with everyone 18 months ago. Been injured or just rubbish? What's wrong with a transfer to Wolfsburg? Gone for quite a big sum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 No 'handling', 'Shot stopping' or 'one on ones'? No! That would be ridiculous and might suggest we didn't make out better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Draxler has gone to Wolfsburg. What's happened there? He's was getting linked with everyone 18 months ago. Been injured or just rubbish? AFAIK he was never that keen on the idea of leaving Germany. Wolsburg are not exactly a small club in a football backwater, they are probably the only club in Germany that can get remotely close to financially competing with FC Hollywood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUNGSTEVE Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 So it looks like one of the best goalkeepers in the world is going to Real Madrid, with Costa Rica's goalie coming the other way in a total deal worth 29 million. In the meanwhile we seemingly spend 36 million on an unknown French teenager. A tiny first team squad full of individuals not known for their fitness. You couldn't make it up. Mid table at best for us I feel this year. I think people are starting to realise what an excellent man manager Alex Ferguson was all these years, though I always did, certainly compared to the likes of Van Gaal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Social Media and footballers is a bizarre mixture at times. This is Victor Valdes on facebook https://i.gyazo.com/25ff430d3cba65494a2ff023d80ef499.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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