APFootball Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 hmmm,could that be why it counts it as two separate tiers,because i merged all 12 divisions with the Lower division parent together? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'm getting a "no enough teams in stage 0 in CONCACAF Champions league stage 0" and i cant see why.. (its driving me nuts). any takers to have a look and help me out? FM17 - All American v2_E80F0A6D-3320-4CE7-A187-BFBCE5207477.fmf @krlenjushka Any ideas, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josuts Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hello everyone, Here is my problem with this year data editor! Every year I activate some old extinct nations and set up leagues,cups everything.For my own fun.Now this year I don't know what I do wrong but can't seem to manage it! I went on and activate continent and set up Yugoslavia.I also tick the box to be FIFA member and set Serbia continent as Asia.I set up league rules,cups,change cities,teams,people etc. But nomatter what I do Yugoslavia doesn't compete in any competitions!!! Can you guys help me please? Im so frustrated!!! Second thing is the international rules.I want to set up the Balkan nations cup.But in international rules I can't seem to choose any nations but it only gives me the continent choose. Any help would be highly appreciated, Thank you:-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeguela Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hi everybody, 1) I followed this steps trying to change the number of subs allowed in England Vanarama National League South but I couldn't find the "stage 0" for the 6º division. Is there any way to change de subs for this division? " First click on the rules menu and go to add nation rules. Select the country which contains the league you want to edit and select 'add lower divisions and cups to existing structure Then go back to the rules menu and select convert to advanced rules To change the number of substitutes go to the league settings section under Serie A - Stages - Stage 0 Scrolling down you will find the option to change substitution rules " 2) After that I could play with the Premier League, the Championship, the League One and League Two with the new settings but the option to play with Vanarama National League and Vanarama National League North/South has disappear: I'd like to start with Oxford thats in Vanarama National League South with the new changed league settings, Is there any workaround here? Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatawaster95 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I'm wanting to change the subsitue rules for the Champions League and the Europa league to 6 from 9...anyone know how to do it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeofriFMITA Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I'm trying to change the transfer dates in Italy and in England. In England it works, in Italy no. You know what you have to do to make it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyiab Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just to say that I edited Brexit date to 2099 - 100% chance - got a message in January 2017 that we are no longer leaving the EU. Another confirmation that this works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, formerlyiab said: Just to say that I edited Brexit date to 2099 - 100% chance - got a message in January 2017 that we are no longer leaving the EU. Another confirmation that this works there are so many ways to stop it, and even if you dont want to play with AR just set up a new agreement in normal rules to virtually duplicate EU so if brexit does kick in the other agreement still runs causing no issues at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastairhufc Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I can see people have found ways to eliminate brexit but has anyone found ways to force a certain brexit scenario to happen? I assume the scenario is picked when the game starts and therefore reloading the save the day before the announcement comes won't make a difference? I'm interested to try an English career with hard brexit for an added challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alastairhufc said: I can see people have found ways to eliminate brexit but has anyone found ways to force a certain brexit scenario to happen? I assume the scenario is picked when the game starts and therefore reloading the save the day before the announcement comes won't make a difference? I'm interested to try an English career with hard brexit for an added challenge. Which kind of Brexit outcome you have in your game is set when you start a new saved game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radz Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 @KUBI Hey just trying to get my head around the regional boundaries, if I have a team in a league which isn't in the boundaries will it break with promotion/relegation? It seems to run ok but the specific team hasn't been promoted yet. Any links to previous that you know of? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 The main impact for promotion is reputation, everything else is random. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radz Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, KUBI said: The main impact for promotion is reputation, everything else is random. Ah ok perfect, I've never bothered with it previously but wanted to have a pop, doesn't seem like its needed too much. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radz Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 On 11/4/2016 at 04:33, Bannside of Killowen said: Reserve/youth league set up, how do set up the custom XML for outside England for somewhere like Northern Ireland? Because every year i try and fail. I'm trying mirror the current setup NIFL Premiership Development League, NIFL Championship North, NIFL Championship South I'm guessing it is something like this "STARTING_EPPP_CATEGORY" "Arsenal" "1" Hey, I'm looking into this as well, also creating an extended league system to include NAFL, Mid-Ulster, Ballymena etc. The NAFL league has a '3rd' level which is basically 6 reserve league 3A-F I'm trying to figure out how this operates when an NAFL premier team is promted into NIFL Premier Intermediate League and if the reserve team gets promoted as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton14 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Does anyone have any idea how to remove the transfer rules here? I am using my own custom rules for the transfer window/rules but It's just not working as It's not showing and just reverting till the original and the Transfer window date is for the 3rd of Jan not the first like I set it (yes I removed the day and just had the date when setting transfer window). Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 hours ago, Radz said: @KUBI Hey just trying to get my head around the regional boundaries, if I have a team in a league which isn't in the boundaries will it break with promotion/relegation? It seems to run ok but the specific team hasn't been promoted yet. Any links to previous that you know of? Thanks It will get promoted/relegated but maybe into a division at the same level that you aren't expecting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 hours ago, Clifton14 said: Does anyone have any idea how to remove the transfer rules here? I am using my own custom rules for the transfer window/rules but It's just not working as It's not showing and just reverting till the original and the Transfer window date is for the 3rd of Jan not the first like I set it (yes I removed the day and just had the date when setting transfer window). Any ideas? If you want to overwrite all the rules, you need to add the Serie A from scratch and add all the rules manually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastairhufc Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 On 14/11/2016 at 11:41, KUBI said: Which kind of Brexit outcome you have in your game is set when you start a new saved game. In that case I assume the outcome will be identifiable from the start of the save meaning something like Genie Scout will probably have it as a feature. I''ll wait for that then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCpl Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Alastairhufc said: In that case I assume the outcome will be identifiable from the start of the save meaning something like Genie Scout will probably have it as a feature. I''ll wait for that then. It doesn't have the feature. It doesn't look like it's visible in the way game data is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucklechuck Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Each year I make a World League database containing the top club teams from around the world. In previous years, I've had to manually change each club's nation so that newgens will be of the same nationality as the club. This year, I don't seem to have to do that. Which is great! But I worry about what problems might crop up in the future. What is it that determines newgen nationalities now? Does it go by "continental competition nation" or the city the club is based in? Or is the game remembering which nation each club is from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Not sure where else to post this, but what is the point of "compressing" data files when saving them in the pre-game editor - does it simply make the file smaller, with no repercussions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo98 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Re the brexit edit, and changing the year to 2100 etc - Did not see this mentioned, but the reason it then makes the English league "unselectable" is just because you have not tested the rules in the editor. If you test the rules then save, you can select all the divisions in england as per normal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nom245 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 8 hours ago, chucklechuck said: Each year I make a World League database containing the top club teams from around the world. In previous years, I've had to manually change each club's nation so that newgens will be of the same nationality as the club. This year, I don't seem to have to do that. Which is great! I did not notice it yet. I am curios if it will influence transfers too (there is now a chance to reproduce a "cantera policy" like athletic Bilbao for other teams?). I think probably the nationality of the regens is determined by the nation in where the city is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, ddidiodion said: Can somebody link a step by step guide to the 2100 trick for Brexit? Load this file and see how it's done. brexit.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton14 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Hi. I have another issue. When I get to the second season. Teams in Lega pro 3rd division seem to have a club Value of £0 even though I have provided TV money at the start of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzar Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 16 hours ago, nom245 said: I did not notice it yet. I am curios if it will influence transfers too (there is now a chance to reproduce a "cantera policy" like athletic Bilbao for other teams?). I think probably the nationality of the regens is determined by the nation in where the city is I would like to know this too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucklechuck Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 19 hours ago, nom245 said: I did not notice it yet. I am curios if it will influence transfers too (there is now a chance to reproduce a "cantera policy" like athletic Bilbao for other teams?). I think probably the nationality of the regens is determined by the nation in where the city is What do you mean by a chance to reproduce cantera policies? You mean, is it random? You can set nation preferences for regions to look for transfers but I'm not sure about the club level. Maybe something in the advanced editor, which I haven't checked out yet. It's a great change if newgens are determined by the city. That's a simple change that makes my job a lot easier :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nom245 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, chucklechuck said: What do you mean by a chance to reproduce cantera policies? You mean, is it random? You can set nation preferences for regions to look for transfers but I'm not sure about the club level. Maybe something in the advanced editor, which I haven't checked out yet. It's a great change if newgens are determined by the city. That's a simple change that makes my job a lot easier Athletic Bilbao is hardcoded in the game. It will be interesting if, in a superleague, you can specify for a club that foreign players are all with a nationality different from where the club is based, also players with the same nationality of where the league is based. I.E. if I put a club based in Bhutan in the Indian League, for all I know, until now it was impossible to specify indian players foreigners for this club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbekoorn Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I'm trying to edit the Reserve rules through the advanced editor nation rules and adding lower competitions (Holland -> Reserve Rules) but these changes do not appear ingame, but they do appear if I create the Nation rules from scratch. So is there any way for me to edit the Reserve rules without starting from scratch? I'm helping CrowBar with his Holland Rules so starting over will be a real pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nom245 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Slabbekoorn said: I'm trying to edit the Reserve rules through the advanced editor nation rules and adding lower competitions (Holland -> Reserve Rules) but these changes do not appear ingame, but they do appear if I create the Nation rules from scratch. So is there any way for me to edit the Reserve rules without starting from scratch? I'm helping CrowBar with his Holland Rules so starting over will be a real pain. There is a general problem: editing existing rules seem not working at all except for england. I opened this post in the bug forum: https://community.sigames.com/topic/389150-fm17-problem-with-transfer-windows-in-italy-not-working-in-game/ but they voluntarily ignored it. I wonder when they will realize there is a serious problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbekoorn Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, nom245 said: There is a general problem: editing existing rules seem not working at all except for england. I opened this post in the bug forum: https://community.sigames.com/topic/389150-fm17-problem-with-transfer-windows-in-italy-not-working-in-game/ but they voluntarily ignored it. I wonder when they will realize there is a serious problem Thanks for your answer. I'll see if I can make something work by editing through xml files in notepad. Maybe comparing 'new' nation rules with the 'adding lower divisions' one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbekoorn Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Sorry for the double post (again) but @nom245 I have found the solution. Editing XML files in notepad does work! Here the tutorial: For adding new reserve rules to existing leagues (using ' 'Add Lower Division And Cups To Existing Structure'), convert to Advanced Rules and save your game as an xml file. I always do this by saving uncompressed (click settings at the top of the editor, untick 'Compress Editor Data Files'), go to the file location on your computer (My Documents -> Sports Interactive -> Football Manager 2017 -> editor data), delete the uncompressed save file, go back to the editor and save again, Now go back to the uncompressed save file and it should have the .xml file type. Now open this with notepad. Now search for game_rules (using CTRL+F) and make the following changes: - change all <boolean id="use_game_rules" value="true"/> into <boolean id="use_game_rules" value="false"/> - change all <string id="use_game_rules" value="active_comp"/> into <string id="use_game_rules" value="not_in_game"/> Now, save, close, load a new database in the editor and import the .xml file. And now the file is converted into a "Create New Competitions And Rules" file meaning that you can edit reserves now. But also make sure that the season update day is correct because the default is 1 january in the editor but if your leagues run from summer to summer (like in Holland, England and almost everywhere accept for Scandanavian countries) and change it (7 juli for Holland). You also have to add transfer windows manually etc. Now save compressed and verify your file. And there you have it. Oh and if you're having trouble chosing local regions when you add reserve leagues and chose 'Regional divisions', the problem is you can only select the default 'South-East' from England (if you change it then it'll become blank), then you need to apply the same trick as above. Save as xml, go into notepad, search for the South-East Unique ID (it is 156580) and now change it to the local region of your choice by deleting 'South-East' its Unique ID and replace it with the local region. You can copy, paste and edit all regions in the XML file. Now save, load again etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindi Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Hey Guys, i want to change the rule in England, that you can only have 5 players on loan in match day squad. I already changed the loan rules, but it seems to be the wrong rule change. Is there an extra point in advanced rules to change the match squad rules? Where can i find it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 in fixture rules---> squad selection rules----match squad rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nom245 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 49 minutes ago, Slabbekoorn said: I always do this by saving uncompressed (click settings at the top of the editor, untick 'Compress Editor Data Files'), go to the file location on your computer (My Documents -> Sports Interactive -> Football Manager 2017 -> editor data), delete the uncompressed save file, go back to the editor and save again, Now go back to the uncompressed save file and it should have the .xml file type. Now open this with notepad. Thanks, good find . Probably also the problem with transfer windows in the rules of Italy can be solved in this manner. The procedure for the xml was the only one valid with for editor fm15, but now you can use the "export" function under "file" menu, to save an .xml file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V50 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Hi all, Got a problem this year - it seems the city boundary limits set in competitions are a hard limit this year as compared to previous ones, and this breaks the regional leagues in my case as they have a playoff to get promoted. Here's the relevant structure; NASL Champ division (lvl 3, 3 relegated) (playoff of 6 league winners, 3 promoted) 6 regional leagues (Lvl 4) (Bottom team in each league relegated) Inactive league However, if a league's winner gets promoted, but a team from the region doesn't get relegated, then the game fails to make fixtures next year due to insufficient teams (in this case, it's usually Tobago who fall below their 8 limit (they lose 2 teams from promotion/relegation but only gain 1 from below). Anyone got an idea how to solve this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I have some lower leagues WIP - will test when i get some time. Have you tried without boundaries? just set regional divisions for clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY MEE TEE Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 So, I have 2 working groups, but it won't allow me to set them each as an other competition... This happens despite both competitions being set to the correct parent. Any ideas how to fix this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 basic editor test or advanced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY MEE TEE Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Just now, krlenjushka said: basic editor? Not sure if this is to me, if so, no, I am using advanced. If you need any further screenshots let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, JAY MEE TEE said: Not sure if this is to me, if so, no, I am using advanced. If you need any further screenshots let me know. have you tried to test your file in game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY MEE TEE Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: have you tried to test your file in game? Yeh the parent comp sets up but the child comps don't appear when you scroll through using the arrows at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 send your file and i will take a look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY MEE TEE Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Just now, krlenjushka said: send your file and i will take a look I will PM it to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindi Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 5 hours ago, krlenjushka said: in fixture rules---> squad selection rules----match squad rules Aaaaaahhhh I had looked at Rules 1-21 but i must have missed the small box at the bottom Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY MEE TEE Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 For my USA database, all contracts underneath the MLS have contracts expiring on the 31st December when starting the game. However, when they get renewed, the contracts end on the 31st October. I have contacts to expire in December set in the Transfer Rules but it hasn't fixed it. Anyone got any suggestions of what might fix this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V50 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 20 hours ago, krlenjushka said: I have some lower leagues WIP - will test when i get some time. Have you tried without boundaries? just set regional divisions for clubs Tried and failed, any luck on your end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 i tried to test this on level 3. everything ok so far but i used original cities and regional squares overlap in this case. I will test when i finish my database with new cities and non-overlap regional squares Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 It does not work when you set both regional divisions and boundaries. You need also to be sure to untick "use regional divisions". It works well in my game with competitions boundaries only, I did delete all regional divisions set, as this made the editor and game to shuffle clubs around in a very strict way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 So just to be clear- no need for regional divisions settings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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