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Double challenge:

- Youth Academy Challenge, pick a non-playable club at the lowest playable division and just use the youth team for players, so no transfers.

- Dafuge Challenge, pick a non-playable club at the lowest playable division in England and lead them to win the Premier League and Champions League.

Here is the come from the sofa manager:

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After checking the players, I settled for a 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1.

The counter based 4-51 was my base tactic, changing to a standard 4-4-2/4-2-3-1 to chase results.

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Blyth Spartans - 2017/2018 - Vanarama National League North

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League Table | Finances | Transfers | End of Season Awards | Season Review | Youth Candidates | Injuries

Summary:

After sizing up the squad, normal period of contract renewals and tactic planning. No remarkable youth, only one two star of potential. 

The squad was good, no holes, just some cover issues. The tactics I prepared was a 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1. The 4-5-1 with a flat 5, in a counter mentality was my main tactic for the season, I was able to achieve a 11th place. The beginning of the season was very good, top defence of the league but a half-table attack.

Soon the results started getting more inconsistent and we started getting down the table, we made a nice run on the FA Cup, getting to the 3rd round, then we met QPR and we're trashed, it stated a big period of losses that made me get just 6 point above relegation, after it we slowly started recovering, and ended the season on a high note even with injuries mounting forcing one of the young players to start some games.

Future by position:

GK: Ross Dalton is the undisputed owner of the goal, after him not much to speak about, still has room to improve.

FB R:  2 good players with some room to improve, Alex Nicholson was the starter because Andrew Cartwright started the season with a long term injury, after he returned he was the starter.

FB L: Michael Liddle was the undisputed starter all season, there are other players that can cover, but must are best used in other positions.

D C: Nathan Buddle is very good, Emmanuel Kanteh is good and still has a lot of room to grow. Have to keep them as long as I can, the two backups are a sharp drop from these two.

M R: Daniel Emmerton was the starter, Reuben Dass covered for him on injuries.

M L: Sean Whelan was the starter until a long term injury, Reuben Dass covered and will start next year until Sean Whelan returns.

M C: Starters where Jarret Rivers and Matty Pattinson, they have tendency to pick some injuries, so lots of time for the backups, Michael Richardson was the main next man up.

DLP : Stephen Turnbull is the starter, Jarret Rivers had to replace him many times due to injury and yellow cards, the youngster Michael Montgomery 17b had to start the last six games of the season, he was just decent, but he still needs development.

DLF: Dan Maguire started and was able to score some goals, but his small stature (1,73m) made him limited, and soon the adversaries started mark him out of the game, so even with a contract dispute Louis Robles started playing, first without success but then he exploded, and ended the top goalscorer with 15 goals. 

Youth:

Michael Montgomery 17b has proven he can be a backup that is not a liability, so he will get some games as my midfielders are prone to inuries, hope he can keep improving and play better next season.

Chris Roberts 17a has a lot of promise, he has gotten some games from the bench, and when Louis Robles was injured, he played the final two games and was able to get his first goal. Will get some more games next season as the main backup for the DLF.

 

P.S. - Noticed I should have use 18 not 17, will change it latter.

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Start of the second season preseason, having better results with the 4-4-2. With the 4-5-1, even small teams would get lot's of chances against us, without us getting any chance against them, change to 4-4-2 and we are destroying them.

Unfortunately in return they are destroying our players, 4 starters injured in 2 games, adding to one already injured.

Even sent one to the physio instead of to the specialist by mistake. :mad:

So my top goalscorer, my second forward, my left winger, my best midfielder/player and my 2nd central defender all out for some time, it will be rough.

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@Nobby_McDonald Thank you.

Finances did get helped with the FA Cup run, this year they are already getting bad.

Got most of my team on two year contracts, it's my main window to get up. Already some players ask for more than max wages and it took long negotiations to get them signed.

My two old midfielders are only on one year contracts. One of them is already starting to decline, hopefully his good technicals and mentals can make him a nice backup for a couple of years if no good youths appear.

The biggest concern is the lack of quality youths, only upgrade option I have is the youth level but the board always says lack of funds. :(

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Last season was the underdog for most games.

The board asks for mid table finish at least, same as last year.

My players agreed to fight relegation last year, this year they want a top half finish.

I failed to finish out several games last year, even going defensive, time wasting and retain possession on final minutes. If this year I'm able to get the leads and keep them I may have a shot at that, problem is the already big injury list making me at the limit on some positions and forced to play my less quality backups on others.

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First 4 games of the season:

Game 1: Started winning 1-0, they tied 1-1. missed a goal and closed myself, 1-2 for them in final minutes. :mad:

Game 2: Got beaten by 0-3, my goalkeeper kept 0-1 for a long time, missed a goal and then all hell broke loose went back to my 4-5-1. :(

Game 3: Missed a goal, scored 1-0, they make 1-1, scored 2-1, went in defence, 2-2 for them in final minutes. :mad:

Game 4: Scored 0-1, missed a goal, held on for dear life, won a game!!! :D

Really missing my top goalscorer, the current DLF takes two chances to score one.

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@mjaferrie Thanks.

Will try to analyse why I can't close games, in the meanwhile prepared a 4-1-4-1 to try and close them differently.

Last year I targeted at least 40 points to be safe, around 10 wins, 10 draws and 22 losses. I'm on that trajectory now, so no need for panic, but would like a bit of margin instead of walking on the razors edge.

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Next games, a 1-1 draw, a 0-3 win.

Then two 3-0 drubbings, time to team meeting and try to get a reaction.

Result? 8 straight wins!!! :hammer:

Now I'm the favourite, lost two times by 1-0, and can't seen to create a chance. :mad:

Was up to fourth, started thinking can I get promoted, and now find myself in 9th. Hopefully I stop being favourite and start winning again. :rolleyes:

Got to the FA Cup 1st round, but got a League 2 team, Stevenage, away, so probably no more prize money for me.

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Able to to almost get to the playoff spots, but never quite. Now all the starter midfielders are out but one, down to fifth left midfielder, eight and last central midfielder and last right midfielder, starter forward out, all other forwards can score a goal. :mad:

Unless a disaster happens I think I'll manage to keep from relegation, but I'm getting down on the table and have been in my worst goalless patch. :seagull:

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I post this, went to post to the bug forums about my players are complaining of the fitness standard when I have the best in the league, alt-tabbed right when Windows popped up a stupid window about some update and game crashed... :mad:

If I lose my youths... :seagull:

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Youths are safe, just lost a couple of games and a lot of injuries, still have some starters injured but not the crisis. Angry about the crash and angry about being happy for the crash, the FM life is a hard and confusing one. :idiot:

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I'll take the time for a small squad analysis.

GK:

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Ross Dalton is my main goalkeeper, still has room to grow, and still asks for wages that I can afford, besides him I have nothing, this season I have seen him making much more saves at games, even going up to get some crosses.

Hope to keep him for more years and to get a youth best than him or at least a decent backup.

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9 minutes ago, MadCatPT said:

My players are unhappy with the fitness standard despite me having the best fitness in league:

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I reported it as a bug.

As anyone seen something like that?

Could it be that possibly some of the players are used to a higher quality of training?

Personality of the coach could also affect this?

Also your assistant is down for 4 different training sections, so this will factor in, for example he might have the best fitness stat in the league but the quality of training drops due to the amount of additional training he's delivering.

Fitness is on 'Light' too, is it worth changing this?

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5 minutes ago, clarkehwbu said:

Could it be that possibly some of the players are used to a higher quality of training?

Personality of the coach could also affect this?

Also your assistant is down for 4 different training sections, so this will factor in, for example he might have the best fitness stat in the league but the quality of training drops due to the amount of additional training he's delivering.

Fitness is on 'Light' too, is it worth changing this?

They could have had half a star more last season.

But why complain all season if they have the best in the league?

Isn't the Light referent to a coach's workload?

I'm a Semi-Professional club.

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1 minute ago, MadCatPT said:

They could have had half a star more last season.

But why complain all season if they have the best in the league?

Isn't the Light referent to a coach's workload?

I'm a Semi-Professional club.

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to training so I was just mentioning what I personally though could be the problem, would be interested to see if it is a bug or not, i've not played LLM yet in FM17, as i'm waiting for the extended database

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Just now, clarkehwbu said:

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to training so I was just mentioning what I personally though could be the problem, would be interested to see if it is a bug or not, i've not played LLM yet in FM17, as i'm waiting for the extended database

Thanks for the help.

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8 minutes ago, oohlala111 said:

Hey! I'm doing dafuge's challenge too and this looks really good. Gl with Blyth Spartans and I'll be following you all the way to glory!

Thanks and good luck to you too.

What is your club?

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My club is Dulwich Hamlet- I've only posted on the official page so far but I could start a separate page maybe? I'm 2nd in the league after 6 games in my first season. As you can tell, I only started recently and I'm quite slow on FM :p

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5 minutes ago, oohlala111 said:

My club is Dulwich Hamlet- I've only posted on the official page so far but I could start a separate page maybe? I'm 2nd in the league after 6 games in my first season. As you can tell, I only started recently and I'm quite slow on FM :p

Slow and steady I hope, nothing like a first season promotion. :D

I'm 6 points from the last playoff spot, but my two best players/goalscorers are injured, and form has been getting worse because of the lack of goals. :(

 

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Just now, MadCatPT said:

Slow and steady I hope, nothing like a first season promotion. :D

I'm 6 points from the last playoff spot, but my two best players/goalscorers are injured, and form has been getting worse because of the lack of goals. :(

 

I hope so too- got games against Ebbsfleet and Margate next. I've been fairly lucky so far with injuries and we've scored plenty of goals- had a 6-3 thriller the other day. I think i'm gonna start my own page about my Dulwich Hamlet save so other people can read it :) 

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Just now, oohlala111 said:

I hope so too- got games against Ebbsfleet and Margate next. I've been fairly lucky so far with injuries and we've scored plenty of goals- had a 6-3 thriller the other day. I think i'm gonna start my own page about my Dulwich Hamlet save so other people can read it :) 

Go for it. Will look forward to read your adventures.

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6 hours ago, LPQR said:

thy spartans shalt be given a bow of solidarity from the spartans of Bucharest ;)

Thanks.

Whitout promotion there is no money for upgrades. And when I start losing players because of wages, ambition or near bankrupcy I could became mired in the division. :(

I have been making some cup runs. maybe I hit the jackpot there.

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Finished the season on 10th, one place improvement, best defence of the league, attack 19th.

Last game of season, chance to prevent rivals from reaching playoffs, drab game each squandered a chance, then they score. On the final seconds of the match my midfielder wins a desperation long ball/clearance by our central defender on the line, crosses, in comes our forward, the best youth from last year, heads it but it misses by inches!!! 

Of course our rivals won all three playoff games. 

Just six points off from a playoff spot, better injury luck and I could have reach them, was able to scrap some results, my schedule had a lot of end of the table teams at the end. There's always next year.

My main concern are the finances and my ability to keep tying up my best players, almost 400k in the red, my top players ask for more than I can pay, last year is probably the final year I can keep the team together.

Season review will come today.

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Blyth Spartans - 2018/2019 - Vanarama National League North

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League Table | Finances | Transfers | End of Season Awards | Season Review | Youth Candidates | Injuries

Preseason:
This year tried fitness training and was met with lots of injuries, so next year will change it back to balance or try mental. Played just against weak teams, the 4-5-1 was not working so used a 4-4-2 with success for the friendlies.
Already had a long term injury from last year, and after the first two friendlies had 5 long/medium term injuries.

Season:
The 4-4-2 again didn't resist the test of fire of true opponents, had to change to 4-5-1, tried again in a couple occasions, couldn't get it to work, the opponents would get lots of changes and I didn't. It started slow, more inconsistent than last year, allowing lots of leads to be tied or turned, still I was making enough point to be safe, but not for any chance to reach the playoffs, the lack of some important players also didn't help.

After two 0-3 losses in a row, a team meeting changed our season, we won 8 straight games! After that the team tightened up at the back and we became a hard team to score on, and even if we didn't score many goals it was enough to almost reach the playoff spots where we had been after our best run. Whenever we were favourites we struggled, which was normally when we were about to get to a playoff spot. After awhile we started to be able to win some of those games, but the distance was already there.

We where about 6 points behind when an injury crisis happened, right when my youth influx appeared. It had a good player and two backups. Ian Williams is the heir apparent to Stephen Turnbull, and jumped right into his place. Then a game crash happened! Luckily didn't lost the youth, but lost half the injury crisis, it didn't help that my best scorer and my best midfielder/player were the first ones to be injured.

But the injury crisis was not to be averted, so again most of my midfielders were injured, just the goalkeeper and the defence unscathed, the 5-1 of my 4-5-1 was all injured. I was able to scrap some results, but did't get there.

At the end of the season I played my rivals, if won/drew against them, they would not go to the playoff spots. It was a drab game, each squandered a chance, then they scored. On the final seconds of the match my midfielder wins a desperation long ball/clearance by our central defender on the line, crosses, in comes our forward, the best youth from last year, heads it but it misses by inches!!!

Of course our rivals won all three playoff games. :seagull:

Finish 10th, out by 6 points from the playoff spots, best defence in the league, 19th best or 4th worst attack in the league.

Squad:
Extended most contracts to 2020, some players it took a awhile, some of my better player ask for more than I can give and lengthy negotiations start. My two older midfielders are the only ones who I didn't extend to see if any degrading happened. Stephen Turnbull did start losing physical stats, luckily got a youth to replace him, it's painful seeing him go for a ball and it seem he has a truck tire tied to him, was able to resign him for cheap, he will be the backup for next season.
Matty Pattinson was extend one more season, he was even better than the precious year.

Players:

GK:
Ross Dalton made a good improvement this year. I started to watch him make more saves than last year and kept us in some games, something that didn't happen last season. 19 clean sheets and just 40 goals conceded, part team effort, part Ross Dalton, making more saves and getting more crosses.

Adam McHugh had to enter in one game when Ross Dalton injured a finger in a second half and didn't suffer goals.

FB S R:
Andrew Cartwright has lot of room to improve, but didn't improve as expected.

FB S L:
Michael Liddle played well, he is young and highly determined but has already reached his potential. Got 3 straight yellow cards in the end of the year, hope it doesn't carry into next year.

CD D:
Nathan Buddle is the rock in our defense, he has a professional personality but he started with 4 determination when I arrived at the club. He is now up to 8! Discipline really works, it's not always and he doesn't' give many reasons for it. At this rate he'll have a decent 10 next season.

Emmanuel Kanteh is another evolving slowly, got lot's of room to grow, he got injured in the hip on the start of the season so was limited to 30 games this season.

Danny Parker played 20 games this season due to Emmanuel Kanteh's injury.

All D:
Alex Nicholson played 23 games(19 from the bench), all over the defence, mostly when someone has a yellow, is tired or is playing bad. Also had to play a couple of games in the mid due to injuries, will probably give him some additional training as a last resort M/DM.

W(M) S R:
Daniel Emmerton, was injured, was able to get him by 30% of his previous contract. Probably because the injuries seem to have sapped him of his potential, he is young but seem to have topped off at 2.5*.

W(M) S L:
Sean Whelan started the season injured, had to return and play due to other injuries, so while he didn't play bad he didn't do anything special. Still has room to grow.

Both W:
Reuben Dass has the ability to work both flanks and still has room to progress, he will take care of the right wing next year. Has a room to grow, currently my second player with the most potential.

DLP D:
Stephen Turnbull, has degraded but still a useful player. Losing second balls to speed is now in his repertoire unfortunately, so he has became the backup to Ian Williams 19a. Last year there were people praising left and right, not one such piece of news this year. Luckily he resigned for cheap(was never too expensive).

Ian Williams 19a, is not an ideal fit, but he has most of the good stuff, vision, flair for someone that could launch some killer passes. Already saw him recover some balls, and his mobility compared to Stephen Turnbull is day/night.

MC S/A:
Jarret Rivers is definitely our best player, in the MC A he makes a difference with goals and assists, was injured for 40% of the season. All the injuries have also dropped him to 2.5* when he top of both ability and potential, he was still our best performer with 7.31, and his 9 goals and 3 assist always handy.

Matty Pattinson, upped his game this season, he puts his foot in, assists and usually scores great goals, 9 goals and 9 assists this year. He is getting old but still didn't start degrading, but is asking crazy money to renew, will wait for the start of the season to see if he comes down to earth, may not be able to hold to him. 

Michael Richardson, the next man up, can replace Jarret Rivers but misses a lot of goals.

Michael Montgomery 18b, hard worker but is lacking a bit on the passing department, he is still young, and he doesn't need much of an improvement for the league average.

DLF S:
Louis Robles was injured in preseason, regressed and was never able to regain his goal scoring habits from the previous season, is on a month to month contract, doesn't want to renew, I may dismiss him.

Luke Armstrong is my best fit, but he squandered chances last season, this season he kept squandering chances until he suddenly got a killer instinct, he started scoring more until he got injured, never regained the form and them got injured again. He was missed, top goalscorer for the team with 19 goals, top assist maker with 13.

Chris Roberts 18a is my next best fit, he also misses lots of goals, has the "Shoot from distance PPM" which makes him sometimes shoot from distance, he score a couple of great goals though! He is developing so I hope to get him fighting for the start place. Played in 24 games, most from the bench and scored 3 and assisted 3. Missed a header that could have made him into a legend for the supporters.
Trying to make him lose the "Shoots from distance" PPM.

Dan Maguire was able to get just a few games, he scored a goal. He is a bit wasted because I can't get 2 forwards working, but he is cheap so I keep him.

Youth:
U18 champions!!!

Y17:
Lots of dead wood from the unplayable season, I may keep two.

Leigh Bond-Wellard 17d is a Professional goalkeeper, no talent, but I like to have 3 GK, it's like having the strong foot on the side of the field you play. I'm weird that way. :rolleyes:

Peter Farrell 17a is improving, could reach a decent backup place and be able to cover 3-4 places.

Y18:
May have picked more than I needed, didn't have the same mistake this year.

Y19:
Got just 3 players, Ian Williams 19a was discussed above.

Paddy Doyle 19b is a natural Wide Midfielder something that I want to start playing, will wait for some improvement before I play him.

Andy Bottomley 19c, is now higher rated than Paddy Doyle 19b. I want him to became a decent left fullback that could cover the wing in an emergency. Will play in the U23, U18 until there is an emergency or someone better appears.

Finances:
I am getting a huge debt, I don't know how that works in this version, last youth save my best players would refuse to renew and leave so my wage was low that I slowly made money, with the sale of a youth or some cup luck I would get enough money for the youth upgrade and would then get enough talent to get promoted. I only played one club in administration a lot of years ago, can't even remember the version, I know that they would take care of buying and selling players, would that break the challenge?

This save my best players renew but at the maximum I can pay, so I am accumulating some debt, I have made it to the 3rd and 1st rounds of the FA Cup, so made some extra money or else it would be worst, also my board made some money injections. My best players are young, so I'll probably try to keep them and keep pushing, hopefully I'll break through before I go to administration. One of my best is 32 and has a contract for one more year and I have some youths at midfielder, so probably will go youth at the end of next year and he accounts for 10% of my budget.

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11 hours ago, MadCatPT said:

Preseason:
This year tried fitness training and was met with lots of injuries, so next year will change it back to balance or try mental. Played just against weak teams, the 4-5-1 was not working so used a 4-4-2 with success for the friendlies.
Already had a long term injury from last year, and after the first two friendlies had 5 long/medium term injuries.

Y19:
Got just 3 players, Ian Williams 19a was discussed above.

Paddy Doyle 19b is a natural Wide Midfielder something that I want to start playing, will wait for some improvement before I play him.

Andy Bottomley 19c, is now higher rated than Paddy Doyle 19b. I want him to became a decent left fullback that could cover the wing in an emergency. Will play in the U23, U18 until there is an emergency or someone better appears.

Finances:
I am getting a huge debt, I don't know how that works in this version, last youth save my best players would refuse to renew and leave so my wage was low that I slowly made money, with the sale of a youth or some cup luck I would get enough money for the youth upgrade and would then get enough talent to get promoted. I only played one club in administration a lot of years ago, can't even remember the version, I know that they would take care of buying and selling players, would that break the challenge?

This save my best players renew but at the maximum I can pay, so I am accumulating some debt, I have made it to the 3rd and 1st rounds of the FA Cup, so made some extra money or else it would be worst, also my board made some money injections. My best players are young, so I'll probably try to keep them and keep pushing, hopefully I'll break through before I go to administration. One of my best is 32 and has a contract for one more year and I have some youths at midfielder, so probably will go youth at the end of next year and he accounts for 10% of my budget.

Nice work this season man!  Have to agree with you on the preseason training - switched it to balance this year and the injuries were right down.

19a looks decent!

My finances are plummeting as well, don't have the same issue with players resigning though - I wish!  Most of our best seem to be leaving for nothing these days. 
EDIT:  Just saw the next post about no one resigning. Bad luck!

KUTGW!

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2 hours ago, mjaferrie said:

Nice work this season man!  Have to agree with you on the preseason training - switched it to balance this year and the injuries were right down.

19a looks decent!

My finances are plummeting as well, don't have the same issue with players resigning though - I wish!  Most of our best seem to be leaving for nothing these days. 
EDIT:  Just saw the next post about no one resigning. Bad luck!

KUTGW!

Thanks.

Been able to resign at least the gk, best defender and forward.

Tried some more difficult friendlies this year, struggling a bit but still two narrow wins and a draw.

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This season has a big change, on the previous two the lowest expectation the board accepted was mid table, now it accepted avoid relegation.

Injuries so far:

Michael Liddle  our starting left back, which has given a chance for a youngster to play in the friendlies, will probably return in time for the first game. (4-5 weeks.)

Matty Pattinson, 3 months out. :(

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After some investigation it seems I became bellow average on most things. :(

This year I am so far failing to convert the excellent chances I get.

Not in danger but a few more goals and I would be sniffing at the promotion places.

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Contract Renewal Watch:

Ross Dalton, asks for 7.1k, can offer 3.1k, if it keeps like this, I have to pray for a goalkeeper on the youth intake.

Emmanuel Kanteh, can only offer 2.8k, can't get him to accept it. Hopefully he accepts until end of the year, or else I'll have a big drop off and get thin at DC.

Reuben Dass, the club doesn't match his ambitions. So now he doesn't match my selection criteria. Fair trade.

Sean Whelan, wants absurd promises that I can't comply with.

Matty Pattinson, wants 6k, can only offer 3.9k.

 

That 12500 euros per month of wages, about 30% of our wage budget, if they leave I'll almost be profitable, if attendances increase it would be enough.

It would be a big drop off in quality that I don't have even the potential to replace current ability, still have some quality and numbers for the middle of the park, goalkeeper and central defence would have a drop off in quality and just the player and backup, injuries and suspensions at the same time would kill us, wings I do have some players that can play there, would probably train some of the central players to play there as wide midfielders as they have better quality and potential.

It's almost half a season and no change. :(

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