flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I have created a new nation using CIS as the template. Ive replaced CIS for my choosen nation name along with declaring its city, region, national stadium and currency but the box for continent is grey and im not able to select a continent, why wont it let me select a continent. Ive changed everything like people clubs cities to the chosen name of my nation but im at a loss what to do. To get this edit up and running should i be able to add a continent to my nation? How do i add a continent to the greyed out box??? Please help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Didi you already convert the file to advanced rules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, KUBI said: Didi you already convert the file to advanced rules? No sir i didnt. Wow that sounds important lol. Please may i ask how i do that??? Thank you for your reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 It's in the rules tab of the editor: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, KUBI said: It's in the rules tab of the editor: what sub sections would i go to once ive pressed the"convert to advanced rules"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, KUBI said: It's in the rules tab of the editor: before the editor lets me go into convert to advanced rules I have to add nation rules, in the screenshot ive just uploaded when selecting a nation I can not find the name of my new nation, what on earth am I doing wrong???? all that I have managed to read and watch on youtube have not been able to help me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 I wanted to add a new nation so i used CIS as my template added all the info i could, changed the name of nation then went about adding people cities and teams from the database of my chosen region but when i go to add nation rules and pull down the drop down box i cant see my the nation i created. I cant seem to marry the region i want to my new nation. What am i doing wrong???im a man in need of some help lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 also when I'm on the page which ive uploaded below I cant seem to add a continent why is this??? I'm quite confused about what I'm doing wrong and any info ive collected on building a nation doesn't seem to cover this problem however the info ive been using is from past fm games, any help would be awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josuts Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Im not an expert but I see in your second screenshot that the ""continent"" is still grey! I think you must activate that and set it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, josuts said: Im not an expert but I see in your second screenshot that the ""continent"" is still grey! I think you must activate that and set it up Hey bud. Do you know how to activate it so i can add a continent??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josuts Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Yes I know how to do that:-) you need to go to editor/data/format/database/nation.xml find this:<!-- Continent --><record><flags id="field" value="Ncti"/><string id="name" value="Continent"/><flags id="type" value="database_record_unique_id"/><flags id="database_table_type" value="continent"/><boolean id="is_client_field" value="true"/><boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/> and change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/>u<boolean id="is_read_only" value="false"/>save file and reload editor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, josuts said: Yes I know how to do that:-) you need to go to editor/data/format/database/nation.xml find this:<!-- Continent --><record><flags id="field" value="Ncti"/><string id="name" value="Continent"/><flags id="type" value="database_record_unique_id"/><flags id="database_table_type" value="continent"/><boolean id="is_client_field" value="true"/><boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/> and change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/>u<boolean id="is_read_only" value="false"/>save file and reload editor do I need to go into the fm17 folders that are on my computer to do this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, josuts said: Yes I know how to do that:-) you need to go to editor/data/format/database/nation.xml find this:<!-- Continent --><record><flags id="field" value="Ncti"/><string id="name" value="Continent"/><flags id="type" value="database_record_unique_id"/><flags id="database_table_type" value="continent"/><boolean id="is_client_field" value="true"/><boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/> and change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/>u<boolean id="is_read_only" value="false"/>save file and reload editor Im so sorry, thank you for the info above but i dont know where to go on my computer to find the info above, where is the most likely place i need to go to make these changes?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, flipward said: Im so sorry, thank you for the info above but i dont know where to go on my computer to find the info above, where is the most likely place i need to go to make these changes?? It's inside your editor folder in the steam directory. You could also just search on your computer for nation.xml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 39 minutes ago, KUBI said: It's inside your editor folder in the steam directory. You could also just search on your computer for nation.xml Thank you very much.i will see if i can make the magic happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, KUBI said: It's inside your editor folder in the steam directory. You could also just search on your computer for nation.xml wow thats a bit tricky, is this what I'm looking for?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Im not able to write over any of the upload above.it seems like the right page but is it?????lol.x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesters86 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Click right on the file before opening an choose 'Open with' and choose Notepad that way you can edit the file and save it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, Chesters86 said: Click right on the file before opening an choose 'Open with' and choose Notepad that way you can edit the file and save it. Thank you chief, i will give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, flipward said: Thank you chief, i will give it a go. just dont quit. thats how we all started Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fairbairn Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 ^This very much. I wouldn't even want to know how many hours I spent trying to figure it out whilst using the advanced editor back in 2010(or was it '09? I forgot), and this was while in conversation with 3 or 4 other people with whom we were all bouncing ideas back and forth between, and even then we still can't figure some things out. I know I certainly wouldn't've come this far without asking someone else when stuck. While there's still no manual, there's more than enough of us here who've used the editor for long enough that we can accomplish most things and can guide those who need it through if asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 yeah me also. i didnt know about advanced editor but when i first looked at xml i found something strange there After that i couldnt leave it - just one more thing to learn, night by night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, flipward said: 2 hours ago, Chesters86 said: 2 hours ago, Chesters86 said: Click right on the file before opening an choose 'Open with' and choose Notepad that way you can edit the file and save it. I right clicked before opening and used notepad as advised so I could save, the screenshot ive uploaded is slightly different from the screenshot further up this conversation so I thought I would ask where abouts on the uploaded screenshot should I write false??? 2 hours ago, Chesters86 said: Click right on the file before opening an choose 'Open with' and choose Notepad that way you can edit the file and save it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 27 minutes ago, Dave Fairbairn said: ^This very much. I wouldn't even want to know how many hours I spent trying to figure it out whilst using the advanced editor back in 2010(or was it '09? I forgot), and this was while in conversation with 3 or 4 other people with whom we were all bouncing ideas back and forth between, and even then we still can't figure some things out. I know I certainly wouldn't've come this far without asking someone else when stuck. While there's still no manual, there's more than enough of us here who've used the editor for long enough that we can accomplish most things and can guide those who need it through if asked. I'm finding this rather hard lol but I wona crack this stupid problem so I can create my own nations and further my enjoyment, creating a player club or league system is much easier then this process so far I need to know this now so I cant give in lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 this picture shows some wrong file. What is path to that file? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: this picture shows some wrong file. What is path to that file? hey bud the pathway to the above screenshot is as followed window ( c ) drive, program files x86, steam, steamapps, common, football manager 2017 editor, data, format, database, nation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 its 128th row in my file. "continent" section looks like this: <!-- Continent --> <record> <flags id="field" value="Ncti" /> <translation id="name" translation_id="229389" type="use" value="Continent" /> <flags id="type" value="database_record_unique_id" /> <flags id="database_table_type" value="continent" /> <boolean id="is_client_field" value="true" /> <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true" /> <boolean id="is_optional" value="true" /> </record> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: its 128th row in my file. "continent" section looks like this: <!-- Continent --> <record> <flags id="field" value="Ncti" /> <translation id="name" translation_id="229389" type="use" value="Continent" /> <flags id="type" value="database_record_unique_id" /> <flags id="database_table_type" value="continent" /> <boolean id="is_client_field" value="true" /> <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true" /> <boolean id="is_optional" value="true" /> </record> how did you get to this bit of text?? what windows do I have to travel through to get where I need to go??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 i dont understand how can you have different file. open database folder and take a screenshot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: i dont understand how can you have different file. open database folder and take a screenshot here it is bud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 open nation file with notepad and find those lines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: open nation file with notepad and find those lines ive found it, I hope lol, here is the screenshot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: open nation file with notepad and find those lines what do I do from here buddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true" /> to <boolean id="is_read_only" value="false" /> save file, start editor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true" /> to <boolean id="is_read_only" value="false" /> save file, start editor thank you, I will give it a go, fingers crossed lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true" /> to <boolean id="is_read_only" value="false" /> save file, start editor thank you, I can now edit the continent of my new nation.with luck the rest of the path way will be easier now. I owe you haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Chesters86 said: Click right on the file before opening an choose 'Open with' and choose Notepad that way you can edit the file and save it. thank you for your help,i am very great full for your advise. I can now add a continent to my new nation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 7 hours ago, KUBI said: It's inside your editor folder in the steam directory. You could also just search on your computer for nation.xml thank you for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 dont post multiple posts. use edit option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, krlenjushka said: dont post multiple posts. use edit option He was just kind and did want to thank to all who did help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 hours ago, josuts said: Yes I know how to do that:-) you need to go to editor/data/format/database/nation.xml find this:<!-- Continent --><record><flags id="field" value="Ncti"/><string id="name" value="Continent"/><flags id="type" value="database_record_unique_id"/><flags id="database_table_type" value="continent"/><boolean id="is_client_field" value="true"/><boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/> and change <boolean id="is_read_only" value="true"/>u<boolean id="is_read_only" value="false"/>save file and reload editor thank you for your help mate, you were spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, KUBI said: He was just kind and did want to thank to all who did help. yeah i know we did same things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipward Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 sorry, I didn't think to consider that I could send a group text. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, flipward said: sorry, I didn't think to consider that I could send a group text. Does not matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 This is always the first hurdle for anyone editing extinct nations. it is as simple as changing a word from false to true on the correct line of the correct file using notepad. the issue is always helping someone find it. you are not the first an and you wont be the last. It's the same every year and has been for as long as I can remember... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 This should become the place for such basic editing files and templates: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
josuts Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 On 22/11/2016 at 00:53, flipward said: thank you for your help mate, you were spot on. You are welcome mate:-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex311085 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 this hasn't worked on a mac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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