jersve Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Cpt Space Panda said: Changed my pc since I played fm17 so could I get a fmf version? i can try that aswell if its ok w u knap =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersve Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 17 hours ago, badger100 said: 4-3-3 Attack.fmf Im trying this one w spurs. havent conceded in 9 games but having a little problem to score. do u change mentality or tweak alot between or during games ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger100 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 No changes but we do have a lot of shots and sometimes it is frustrating when they shoot all the time but have changed some of them to shoot less in the last two games so will see how that goes. i do sometimes have to use shouts in games but overall no tweaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 15 hours ago, knap said: GOODBYE 442 is playing well with Arsenal and they do not have a good squad fit. If you used it last year I can PM a fmf version or you can copy last years tactic. Could you PM me this tactic when you have the time? I really miss the old good days when the 4-4-2 was one of the best tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Knap what’s your thoughts on a deeper 4231. The Segunda Volente looks like an amazing role. have been trying with a 4 at the back, 2dms, midfielder r&l and AM set up (who can also drop back to mc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 I seldom use DM s like that so my test with a Segunda did not show any potential. I was looking at a 4231 narrow with double DM, but wide is a good idea. The 442 is not really working, atm,so will perhaps try with the double DM 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, knap said: I seldom use DM s like that so my test with a Segunda did not show any potential. I was looking at a 4231 narrow with double DM, but wide is a good idea. The 442 is not really working, atm,so will perhaps try with the double DM 442. Do you mean like Mr Langvatn used with so much success in fm 16? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 I did a copy last year based on MR Ls but the SV was not available then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 no you are right, would be interesting to see if that role works well in that system. I will keep looking and see if you make any progress with it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collina Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 4-3-3 Attack seems to work for me, doing pretty well, but just got tired of long shots. We scored only 1 long shot from 21, many of players have a SHOOT LESS OFTEN instructions, but they continue to shoot from all positions. badger100, do you use any OI? 21 hours ago, badger100 said: 4-3-3 Attack.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, knap said: I seldom use DM s like that so my test with a Segunda did not show any potential. I was looking at a 4231 narrow with double DM, but wide is a good idea. The 442 is not really working, atm,so will perhaps try with the double DM 442. Yeah, the MR/L positions are very good, a 442 / 4231 with a SS (if you can get them working like last year) would be very good. The SV is potentially a great role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 28 minutes ago, Collina said: 4-3-3 Attack seems to work for me, doing pretty well, but just got tired of long shots. We scored only 1 long shot from 21, many of players have a SHOOT LESS OFTEN instructions, but they continue to shoot from all positions. badger100, do you use any OI? just a suggestion as I just did the same in a separate save to test this tactic, put the right sided IF up front to the right of striker as a DLF role. No other changes. Seems to be working good so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collina Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, tottenham2k7 said: just a suggestion as I just did the same in a separate save to test this tactic, put the right sided IF up front to the right of striker as a DLF role. No other changes. Seems to be working good so far I think when it comes to early versions of the game the real problem is match engine, not tactic. It lasts for many many years. They just sell us a half-done product and then fix it with our help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 3421 so far !FM18GOODBTEKnap3421P56P95.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger100 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Quote just a suggestion as I just did the same in a separate save to test this tactic, put the right sided IF up front to the right of striker as a DLF role. No other changes. Seems to be working good so far Just tried this in one game so far to see what it 2s like and had 12 shots and 8 on target which is a good ratio and scored 4 and the DLF got two of them. will continue to try out. Quote badger100, do you use any OI? No other instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 So i guess the 3430 is working ok still. Half a season with ****** Werder and top of the league. Instant result, no OI, and normal training. The loss came against Dortmund in the 2 game, with tactic and new players not yet fluid. Not as hiigh scoring as before with the sudden 6-1 victories, but still a good defensive underdog tactic. Oh and that Junozovic is a killer, 16 games 8 goals and 14 assists as Amrc.. Too bad hes getting old! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piaz88 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Just now, Rober82 said: So i guess the 3430 is working ok still. Half a season with ****** Werder and top of the league. Instant result, no OI, and normal training. The loss came against Dortmund in the 2 game, with tactic and new players not yet fluid. Not as hiigh scoring as before with the sudden 6-1 victories, but still a good defensive underdog tactic. Oh and that Junozovic is a killer, 16 games 8 goals and 14 assists as Amrc.. Too bad hes getting old! this is sad because it seems like the match engine is still broken if u play with strikerless... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Piaz88 said: this is sad because it seems like the match engine is still broken if u play with strikerless... Not as much as before, the amc`s dont score 2-3 each a game now.. But its so solid defensively that if you score a goal its 50% chance of draw, if you score two you`ll most likely win.. Has anyone really been challenged by a opponent who has a strong season? Cause for me it looks like big teams cant perform over a whole season. I won the Pleague with Brighton with 7(!) losses and 7 draws.... Arsenal in 2nd had just 70 points. In real life, Arsenal in 5th place had 75 points last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 So Bremen won the league with 4 games to go. Played the kids in the final four games, so lost 2 and drew 2 i probably could have won. I think maybe im gonna do one more season to see if we can win the CL. Want to try it with a LL-team to be sure. But as scouting is broken i might have to wait, ended up paying 1.5million pounds extra for scouting because of this bug.. Bremen can afford it, Fc United wont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadaX Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 @Rober82 Could you link the tactic file? The files in OP are .tac and not recognized by fm18 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corei Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 @knap Which 4-2-3-1 you suggest now for working best ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 I would try the version by Collina above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 2017-11-11 at 11:46, knap said: I did a copy last year based on MR Ls but the SV was not available then. I recreated MR Ls Mr L 4-4-2 Deep Sicilian Defense v5 (304 points) from Fm 16 yesterday to this years game, and it works really good for my Malmö FF team, best 4-4-2 for me this year, so maybe you're on to something on testing the deep 4-4-2 But i'm not as good as you with testing tactics so what do i know, will be playing against the big guns i CL group stage soon so maybe not so cocky anymore after that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, MegaAlbin_88 said: I recreated MR Ls Mr L 4-4-2 Deep Sicilian Defense v5 (304 points) from Fm 16 yesterday to this years game, and it works really good for my Malmö FF team, best 4-4-2 for me this year, so maybe you're on to something on testing the deep 4-4-2 But i'm not as good as you with testing tactics so what do i know, will be playing against the big guns i CL group stage soon so maybe not so cocky anymore after that Can you upload it please? I'm currently experimenting with 442s for weaker teams and I'm looking for inspirations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 I was testing MR Ls this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, knap said: I was testing MR Ls this morning. How did it work for you in the testing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, Soviet said: Can you upload it please? I'm currently experimenting with 442s for weaker teams and I'm looking for inspirations. There you have it, and i use his OIs from that tactic also! All credit goes to Mr Langvatn as it is his tactic! Hope its okay i upload it, if im doing something wrong just tell me and i will delete it 4-2-2-2 DM Mr L.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, MegaAlbin_88 said: There you have it, and i use his OIs from that tactic also! All credit goes to Mr Langvatn as it is his tactic! Hope its okay i upload it, if im doing something wrong just tell me and i will delete it 4-2-2-2 DM Mr L.fmf Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 All OK with me - as testing takes time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Yes i understand, when you have tested it will you tell us how it went? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 I would not normally disclose results of another authors tactics - My testing has too many variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 10.11.2017 at 02:39, knap said: Should be the 3430 !GOODBYE3430.fmf @JadaX Just change wingbacks to wb support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadaX Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rober82 said: @JadaX Just change wingbacks to wb support. Oh lol, fair enough. You may have mentioned it, but I missed it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 @knap Im considering trying your 343 or the 433 with one of the lowest ranked teams in the Serie A, which tactic would you recommend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 I've always considered BLUE MATTER a top team tactic or home tactic, so I would use the 343. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I think tactic needs a defense uptade. I play with keane and sarr but still has weak defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Which tactic,as there are a few on this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, knap said: Which tactic,as there are a few on this thread sorry i talked about blue matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 When used with Barcelona it scored 177 but conceded 40, it is that tactics nature. However, in the BLUE MATTER thread Yeovil are defending well, so will depend upon team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Knap where can I find the 3421? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 About 25 posts up this page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus77 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 narrow 4-2-3-1? please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 4231 narrow is not the best formation atm. I have a tactic which I can PM if you really want to use this formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasmuss Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Quote THE TACTIC WITH NO NAME 451 4-51WideP54CP51.tac Hi Knap First and foremost, thank you for all of your content. You are delivering some really solid tactics, so thank you for giving us your time I'm looking for a solid 4-1-4-1 or a 4-5-1/4-1-2-3 DM Wide. Is the above tactic the one you would recommend? I'm not too fond of those 3 striker tactics, even tho they perform very well, so if you have something for me to test of the above, please let me know. Thank you in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Brasmuss said: Hi Knap First and foremost, thank you for all of your content. You are delivering some really solid tactics, so thank you for giving us your time I'm looking for a solid 4-1-4-1 or a 4-5-1/4-1-2-3 DM Wide. Is the above tactic the one you would recommend? I'm not too fond of those 3 striker tactics, even tho they perform very well, so if you have something for me to test of the above, please let me know. Thank you in advance Me too, looking for a 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 that is nothing more than solid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Have you tried the Beta tactics. Still experimenting but a asymmetric looks good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasmuss Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I have tried the 4-51WideP54CP51.tac Also, the Mezzala role. It seems it would make more sense, to put put him on the side in central midfield, matching his best foot. So MCR if he prefer his right foot, and vice versa. What is your thoughs on the matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Was there a particular tactic that you used in FM16 or FM17, which was not strikerlress? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 A standard Asymmetric tactic is OK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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