Powermonger Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Welcome all to this years FM18 Performance benchmarking thread! As per previous years, a save has been created with all 51 nations and 116 leagues using a large database. Total player count is 170,000. Note: Per my own testing and other user reports, FM18 processes slower then previous editions due to new mechanics such as Squad Dynamics, Scouting revamp, Medical Centre etc. Three saves have been provided this year to test and benchmark your computer under different conditions, these are as follows: Benchmark A - Starts 20th August 2017, Detail Level: Default/Default Benchmark B - Starts 20th August 2017, Detail Level: Default/Custom (Full detail set on EFL Championship, Premier League, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A, Primera Division) Benchmark C - Starts 20th August 2019, Detail Level: Default/Default (Beginning of 3rd season) To run the benchmarks, download benchmark save games from the following site: DropBox: FM18_Benchmark_A, FM18_Benchmark_B, FM18_Benchmark_C Save files to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2018\games Before running some tests, ensure your PC is configured for the best possible conditions for testing: PC Settings: Close all non-essential system tray icons (OneDrive, Sound\Motherboard\Peripheral apps etc) Disable any non-essential services (Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology etc) Turn on 'High Performance' power plan. (Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options) FM Settings: Ensure that auto save interval is disabled Ensure that Enable Data Collection is disabled Set processing to Fast (Less Responsive) Ensure WindowMode is Full Screen Make sure when running FM18, no other programs are running (i.e. Internet Explorer, Chrome, Task Manager, Office etc) and if running on a laptop make sure it is plugged into the power socket. After you load the appropriate benchmark save game, just go on holiday for a week, and measure the time needed for processing using a stopwatch on your wristwatch or phone. Holiday from 20/8 until 27/8 for all tests Post your results in the following format: Quote My results: CPU: Intel i7-6700K CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.2GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MHz GPU: Radeon RX 480 8GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: M.2 SSD NVMe Samsung EVO 960 500GB Benchmark A: 3 min 29 sec Benchmark B: 4 min 14 sec Benchmark C: 6 min 09 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars If you are unsure about your PC specs, you can download CPU-Z for free from https://www.cpuid.com/, this should give you all the precise information you need. To find your true memory clock speed, in CPU-Z click on the MEMORY tab and check the value of the DRAM FREQUENCY field and then double it. (Example, my memory reports 1600 MHz which when doubled give 3200 MHz). Alternatively, run the following command from a command line in windows: wmic memorychip get speed. This will report the speed for each RAM module in your PC (mine reports 3200 for each RAM stick). The FM18 Computer Performance Rating can be found by loading FM18_Benchmark_A saved game and going to FM > Add/Remove Leagues. Score is at the bottom. The FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating can be found in FM Preferences under the Match heading. If any questions, feel free to ask. Get testing! RESULTS: FM17 Benchmarking Thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieTC13 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 CPU: Intel i5 7400 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.0GHz boost to 3.5GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel Corsair vengeance RAM Clockspeed: 2400 MHz GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Palit Super Jetstream OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Fall creators update Storage: M.2 SSD NVMe Samsung EVO 960 250GB Benchmark A: 4 Mins 23 seconds Benchmark B: 5 min 12 seconds Benchmark C: 8 min 3 seconds FM18 Computer Performance: 4. stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars I have my i7 7700 what im going to do as well same set up as above but just got to change the cpu back around as i just wanted to see how much of a performance boost the i7 will be over the i5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Thanks @jckc221013jamie, I've added your results to my table and should have it up soon. I'll keep an eye out for your i7-7700 results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 My results: CPU: Intel i7-3820 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.6GHz boost to 3.8GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 RAM Clockspeed: 1600MHz GPU: Nvidia Gegorce GTX 980Ti 6GB OS: Win 10 Home 64-bit Storage: Samsung HD 103UJ 1TB (602GB Free) Benchmark A: 5 min 42 sec Benchmark B: 6 min 30 sec Benchmark C: 10 min 48 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Thanks @roykela, a new table of results has been added to the first post in the thread now. I will continue to update it as more people test. I will add a graph for the results once more people post up their tests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieTC13 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 11/23/2017 at 09:08, Powermonger said: Thanks @jckc221013jamie, I've added your results to my table and should have it up soon. I'll keep an eye out for your i7-7700 results. mate you have put my pc as i7 7700k in the table it is i5 7400 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, jckc221013jamie said: mate you have put my pc as i7 7700k in the table it is i5 7400 Should be fixed now, must of had a brain-fart while entering info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsten75 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 My Results: CPU: Intel i7-6700 K CPU Turbo: 4,2 Ghz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR 4 RAM Clockspeed: 2100 GPU: Nvidia GeForce 1080 ti OS: Win 10 Home 64-bit Storage: Samsung SSD Benchmark A: 3 min 19 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septimius Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 CPU: Intel i5-3570K CPU Turbo: 4,4 Ghz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 RAM Clockspeed: 1866Mhz GPU: AMD Radeon R9 Fury OS: Win 7 Pro 64-bit Storage: Samsung 830 SSD Benchmark A: 4 min 35 sec Edit: In fm17 I got 3 min 20 sec with the same specs so fm18 seems either much slower or it needs more threads. I would also like to see someone with a 7700k or 8700k with really fast RAM, for example over 4000Mhz as i think ram speed really affect the loading time in fm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harabek Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 My results: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.8Ghz Locked CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16Gb DDR4 Dual Channel CL16 RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MHz GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1060 6Gb Windforce OC OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: WDC WD20EZRX-22D8PB0 (2Gb HDD) Benchmark A: 4 Min 21 Sec Benchmark B: 5 Min 17 Sec Benchmark C: 8 Min 37 Sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Interestingly looking at the performance delta between my 6 Core / 12 Thread CPU @3.8Ghz and Powermongers I7 6700k with 4 Cores and 8 Threads, this game still looks dependant on a high IPC and raw clockspeed to be able to get the very best performance with my PC around 20% behind in total performance with these benchmarks Evidently it's not taking advantage of the extra cores/threads. This is made even more clear when comparing with jckc221's 4 Core/4 Thread machine with a turbo clock of 3.5Ghz, which offers extremely similar performance to my machine. If I was a betting man, I would suspect that if the I7 7700 had SMT/Multi-threading turned off, it would return similar results as with a clock speed advantage of around 20% over jckc221s I7 7400, you see around a 20% increase in performance. I may run these benchmarks with SMT turned off on my rig, just to see what kind of speeds I get, but I suspect the difference will be negligible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xterno50 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 My Results (LAPTOP) CPU: Intel i7 6700HQ CPU Turbo Frequency: 2,60ghz up to 3,50ghz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 RAM Clockspeed: 1600 MHz GPU: GTX 960M 4GB DDR4 OS: Win 10 Storage: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB Benchmark C: 9 min 10 seconds FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 3 stars (glitched? it recommends me high settings, and plays smooth) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Thanks all for the testing, I've updated the table again. @Carsten 75: How much RAM does your 1080 ti have? 8GB? @Septimius: How much RAM does your R9 Fury have, 4GB? Are you able to provide what star rating FM gives for your PC and Graphics too please? @Xterno50: Is your SSD a mSATA or M.2 version do you know? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsten75 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Hi Powermonger, my 1080 ti jetstream has 11 GB Ram. have a nice weekend:-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septimius Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Hi Powermonger! Yes the r9 fury has 4GB hbm memory. FM18 Computer Performance: 4 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 22 hours ago, harabek said: My results: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.8Ghz Locked CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16Gb DDR4 Dual Channel CL16 RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MHz GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1060 6Gb Windforce OC OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: WDC WD20EZRX-22D8PB0 (2Gb HDD) Benchmark A: 4 Min 21 Sec Benchmark B: 5 Min 17 Sec Benchmark C: 8 Min 37 Sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Interestingly looking at the performance delta between my 6 Core / 12 Thread CPU @3.8Ghz and Powermongers I7 6700k with 4 Cores and 8 Threads, this game still looks dependant on a high IPC and raw clockspeed to be able to get the very best performance with my PC around 20% behind in total performance with these benchmarks Evidently it's not taking advantage of the extra cores/threads. This is made even more clear when comparing with jckc221's 4 Core/4 Thread machine with a turbo clock of 3.5Ghz, which offers extremely similar performance to my machine. If I was a betting man, I would suspect that if the I7 7700 had SMT/Multi-threading turned off, it would return similar results as with a clock speed advantage of around 20% over jckc221s I7 7400, you see around a 20% increase in performance. I may run these benchmarks with SMT turned off on my rig, just to see what kind of speeds I get, but I suspect the difference will be negligible if you compare results with FM17 performance thread - it seems Ryzen have better time now. Maybe FM18 have better multi-thread optimisation?? We will know this when 4-5 with ryzen make test... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieTC13 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 11/23/2017 at 09:08, Powermonger said: Thanks @jckc221013jamie, I've added your results to my table and should have it up soon. I'll keep an eye out for your i7-7700 results. Iv now tested my i7 7700 CPU: Intel i7 7700 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.6GHz boost to 4.2GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel Corsair vengeance RAM Clockspeed: DDR4 2400 MHz GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Palit Super Jetstream Motherboard: Gigabyte b250 OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Fall creators update Storage: M.2 SSD NVMe Samsung EVO 960 250GB Benchmark A: 3 Mins 21 seconds Benchmark B: 4 min 10 seconds Benchmark C: 5 min 57 seconds FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwchriste Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 My results (custom desktop): CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.0GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 32GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 4000MHz (OC'd) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 PRO M.2 512GB Benchmark A: 2 min 52 sec Benchmark B: 3 min 28 sec Benchmark C: 5 min 21 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks all, results table is updated again. @jwchriste 7700K rig has taken top honours again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harabek Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, jwchriste said: My results (custom desktop): CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.0GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 32GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 4000MHz (OC'd) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 PRO M.2 512GB Benchmark A: 2 min 52 sec Benchmark B: 3 min 28 sec Benchmark C: 5 min 21 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars How is FM at 4K?? I bet it's delicious! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwchriste Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, harabek said: How is FM at 4K?? I bet it's delicious! Ha! Actually, I only have a 2560x1440 monitor. Someday... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinouskismet Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 My results (custom desktop): CPU: Intel Core i7-7820X CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.0GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 64GB Quad-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 3000MHz CL15 GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: Plextor M8Pe M.2 MVMe SSD 256G Benchmark A: 3 min 54 sec Benchmark B: 4 min 30 sec Benchmark C: 7 min 56 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dic Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 My Results ( desktop ): CPU: AMD Phenom X4 955 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.6GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 8.00GB DDR3 Dual-Channel RAM Clockspeed: 1333 MHz GPU: Nvidia GTX 950 2GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: SSD Benchmark A: 8 min 14 sec Benchmark B: 10 min 11 sec Benchmark C: 19 min 11 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 3 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars My Results ( laptop ): CPU: Intel i7 4700HQ CPU Turbo Frequency: base 2.4GHz to 3.4GHz turbo CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 8.00GB DDR3 Single-Channel RAM Clockspeed: 1600 MHz GPU: Nvidia GTX 760M 2GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: SSD Benchmark A: 5 min 11 sec Benchmark B: 6 min 22 sec Benchmark C: 11 min 26 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Is there somebody with Ryzen 3/5 who can run this test? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Thanks @Dic and @heinouskismet, I added your results. I've rearranged the table too so PC and Laptop results are organised separately for easier viewing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedescooo Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 So today I upgraded my CPU, RAM, MOBO and SSD. But before that I decided to run this benchmark to compare later: Quote CPU: Intel i5-2500K @ 4.5Ghz CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.5GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 RAM Clockspeed: 1600 MHz GPU: GTX 970 OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: SSD Crucial MX-300 500Gb Benchmark A: 4 min 54 sec Benchmark B: 5 min 52 sec Benchmark C: 9 min 38 sec FM18 Computer Performance: ?? (Forgot to check) FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 Stars New build: Quote CPU: Intel i7-8700K CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.7GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MHz GPU: GTX 970 OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: M.2 Crucial MX-300 1Tb Benchmark A: 3 min 17 sec Benchmark B: 4 min 11 sec Benchmark C: 6 min 01 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 Stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 Stars If I overclock in future, I'll run this bench again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Thanks @tedescooo, table updated with your results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherrymirza Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 My results on my favorite desktop...almost 10 year old now: CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 920 CPU Turbo Frequency: 2.7GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM Clockspeed: 800 MHz GPU: AMD Radeon 6670HD OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: Seagate HDD Benchmark A: 11m 41s FM18 Computer Performance: 2 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 3 stars I could play FM17 quite nicely , though this version is very laggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matija23 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 My Intel I3 2120, 8 gb ram ddr3 1333,gt430, ssd takes about 7:16. Then I removed one ram stick and the result was the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liffa Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 My results: CPU: Intel i7-8700K CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.2GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 3200MHz GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080 8GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Benchmark A: 3 min 05 sec Benchmark B: 3 min 53 sec Benchmark C: 5 min 27 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dic Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 My Results ( desktop ): CPU: AMD FX 6300 CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.4GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 8.00GB DDR3 Dual-Channel RAM Clockspeed: 1333 MHz GPU: Nvidia GTX 950 2GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: SSD Benchmark A: 5 min 58 sec Benchmark B: 7 min 11 sec Benchmark C: 10 min 57 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 4 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwchriste Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 12/12/2017 at 02:23, Liffa said: My results: CPU: Intel i7-8700K CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.2GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 3200MHz GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080 8GB OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB Benchmark A: 3 min 05 sec Benchmark B: 3 min 53 sec Benchmark C: 5 min 27 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars This is what I wanted to see. This setup almost matched my times (7700k @ 5GHz). We have similar hardware so I'm guessing if you were to OC the RAM you would be able to top the leaderboard. Other than the CPU, our hardware is pretty similar. My RAM is OC'd to its rated speed of 4000MHz. I tried the benchmarks with both my M.2 drive and my SATA SSD and saw no difference (+/- 2sec), so I have to think it's the RAM speed that's making the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienSquare Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 My results: CPU: Intel i5-8600K CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.7GHz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MHz GPU: Nvidia 1070ti OC OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: Kingston SSD SATA 60Gb Benchmark A: 3 min 22 sec Benchmark B: 4 min 02 sec Benchmark C: 5 min 46 sec FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Not surprised to see that cpu do well, even more impressive to see it hang in there on test B against its bigger brother from the i7 range. The top end of the i5 rand should always the obvious best bang for buck option for any PC build outside of extreme users like myself who always want to run every competition in full detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienSquare Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I've re-ran Benchmark A and got 3 min 12 sec. Seemed it was something off, probably having 1st install of FM, idk... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 10 seconds seems to be within a plausible margin of error if hand timing & accounting for any variance in AI media/interaction/transfer decisions, still a solid performance & I suspect opting for the i5 over the i7 meant you had extra budget to allocate towards the 1070ti rather than maybe compromising with a 1060. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienSquare Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 First try was a little off, comparing my results from B and C with other CPUs. Actually I could have gone with i7, but performance is same as with i5, even with 1080ti. Maybe with 2080ti will show better, but by the time 8700K is better than 8600K in games, we will have an actual 8 core good CPU, on 10nm. I see these 6 cores, as a compromise, the future is at least 8 cores, sadly Ryzen lacked raw power. Ontopic: during the holiday, I could see only in short periods of time when CPU was reaching 100% utilization on one core, most of the time stayed at around 40%. Any thoughts? Might be that that game is unoptimized... Also, 6700K being same as 7700K, which is same as 8600K or 8700K all at 4.7Ghz, is just adding more prof that the game is not taking advantage of HW. A good bench game for CPU is Ashes of Singularity, and there we could see 8700K on top with a high margin above 7700K, as it should be (+50% more cores). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonim Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 My results: CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5 GHz (2/4) CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.5 GHz CPU Overclocked: - (no) RAM: DDR4 16 GB Dual-Channel RAM Clockspeed: 2400 MHz GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti + OC Storage: SSD Plextor M6V 128 GB SATA3 OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Benchmark A: 5 min 35 sec (335 sec) Benchmark B: 7 min 14 sec (434 sec) Benchmark C: 11 min 33 sec (693 sec) A vs B (fasted) - +30% A vs C (fasted) - + 107% FM18 Computer Performance: 4 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Pentium G4560 2/4 3.5 GHz vs Core i5 7400 4/4 3.5 GHz (Turbo) A - 335 sec vs. 263 sec = -27% B - 434 sec vs. 312 sec = -40% C - 693 sec vs. 483 sec = -43% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Yuki Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Most other people here seem to have high end systems, so I figured I would do the tests so that people could get an idea of low end system benchmarks. It would be really really nice if SI could include a benchmarking mode in next years game. Lots of other big games have benchmarking modes, and with FM being a very processor-intensive game, it would be nice to get one for FM too. My results: CPU: Intel Celeron G3930 @ 2.8Ghz- 2c/2t CPU Turbo Frequency: N/A CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4 RAM Clockspeed: 2133 MHz GPU: Intel HD 610 (Integrated graphics) OS: Win 10 Home 64-bit Storage: 7200RPM SATA 3 HDD Benchmark A: 8 min 11 secs Benchmark B: 11 min 51 secs Benchmark C: 15 mins 35 secs FM18 Computer Performance: 1 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Thanks guys, I've updated the table with all the results I have missed the last couple of weeks. Thanks also to the guys who have been testing on slower rigs and submitting results for all three tests, really appreciated you sticking through and timing the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonim Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I changed the processor in a week on Core i5-7600T 35W, which is why it now gives new results My results: CPU: Intel Core i5-7600T 2.8 GHz (4/4) - 35 Watt TDP! https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-7600t CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.7GHz -> 1 core (3.5 GHz -> 4 core, 3.6 GHz > 3@2 core) CPU Overclocked: - (no) RAM: DDR4 16 GB Dual-Channel RAM Clockspeed: 2400 MHz CL15 GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti + OC Storage: SSD Plextor M6V 128 GB SATA3 OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Benchmark A: 5 min 13 sec (313 seconds) (clock: 100% 3.7 GHz) Benchmark B: 6 min 19 sec (379 seconds) (clock: 90% 3.5 GHz) Benchmark C: 9 min 04 sec (544 seconds) (clock: 90% 3.5 GHz) A vs B (fasted) - +21% A vs C (fasted) - +73% benchmark A - 90, 100% load on 1 processor cores benchmark B - 50% load on 2/3 processor cores benchmark C - 100% load on all available (4) processor cores FM18 Computer Performance: 4.5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars My new Core i5 7600T 4/4 3.5 GHz (Turbo x 4 cores) vs. my old Pentium G4560 2/4 3.5 GHz A - 313 sec vs. 335 sec = +7% B - 379 sec vs. 434 sec = +14% C - 544 sec vs. 693 sec = +27% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted January 7, 2018 SI Staff Share Posted January 7, 2018 Would be interesting if people re-tested after applying the fix for the Meltdown vulnerability to see what if any performance impact that has had on FM. I'll be endevouring to the same at SI, but the more data the better. You can use this tool to check if you have the patch https://github.com/ionescu007/SpecuCheck/releases Would be good to know if your PC has the PCID has the optimisation, I think (5th or 6th gen have that) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 hours ago, EdL said: Would be interesting if people re-tested after applying the fix for the Meltdown vulnerability to see what if any performance impact that has had on FM. I re-did my tests for my i7-6700K build after confirming patch has been applied: Original Test / Re-test Benchmark A: 03:29 / 03:28 Benchmark B: 04:14 / 04:19 Benchmark C: 06:09 / 06:18 Can also confirm my PC reports PCID optimisation. I think the variances in the results is just pure differences inside the save between the tests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonim Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I do not have the upgrade option enabled in Windows 10, I'm not affected by "meltdown" because I did not have to install the latest patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonim Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 25.11.2017 at 00:18, harabek said: My results: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.8Ghz Locked CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16Gb DDR4 Dual Channel CL16 RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MHz GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1060 6Gb Windforce OC OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Storage: WDC WD20EZRX-22D8PB0 (2Gb HDD) Benchmark A: 4 Min 21 Sec Benchmark B: 5 Min 17 Sec Benchmark C: 8 Min 37 Sec FM18 Computer Performance: 5 stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars CPU: Intel i5 7400 CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.0GHz boost to 3.5GHz CPU Overclocked: No RAM: 16.00GB Dual-Channel Corsair vengeance RAM Clockspeed: 2400 MHz GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Palit Super Jetstream OS: Win 10 Pro 64-bit Fall creators update Storage: M.2 SSD NVMe Samsung EVO 960 250GB Benchmark A: 4 Mins 23 seconds Benchmark B: 5 min 12 seconds Benchmark C: 8 min 3 seconds FM18 Computer Performance: 4. stars FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating: 5 stars Quote 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 1600 is quite weak against the 4-core Core i5-7400. 2 cores and more threads than in i5, should give more benefits. The processor should be closer to Core i7 without K. Well, but on the other hand, if you have a fairly weak core, this situation may not surprise you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 12 hours ago, EdL said: Would be interesting if people re-tested after applying the fix for the Meltdown vulnerability to see what if any performance impact that has had on FM. I'll be endevouring to the same at SI, but the more data the better. You can use this tool to check if you have the patch https://github.com/ionescu007/SpecuCheck/releases Would be good to know if your PC has the PCID has the optimisation, I think (5th or 6th gen have that) Hi EDL, was just looking for a thread on this. Frequent frametime spikes while the game is processing, up into the 35ms range. Looks like you have some work to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben carter Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, adonim said: I do not have the upgrade option enabled in Windows 10, I'm not affected by "meltdown" because I did not have to install the latest patch If your CPU is on this list then you are affected https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00088&languageid=en-fr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harabek Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 hours ago, adonim said: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 1600 is quite weak against the 4-core Core i5-7400. 2 cores and more threads than in i5, should give more benefits. The processor should be closer to Core i7 without K. Well, but on the other hand, if you have a fairly weak core, this situation may not surprise you. The issue is not weak cores or poor IPC. I have the 1600 OC'd to 3.8ghz, the I5 is running at a max boost of 3.5ghz and gets a very similar time The difference of 300mhz would account for about a 10% difference in IPC in favour of intel over amd, benchmarks tend to agree with this point. Therefore we can surmise that the game engine is only utilizing 4 cores... 4 cores with the highest possible IPC and clockspeed will net you the very best results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonim Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Yes, I meant IPC when writing my conclusions, but I did not write it specifically. I have also noticed that the game uses maximum 4 cores. Or and up. I believe that this type of game should use as many cores as possible to maximize performance during power-ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiMats69 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 CPU: Intel i7-4790K CPU Turbo: 4.6 Ghz CPU Overclocked: Yes RAM: 16GB DDR3 RAM Clockspeed: 2400Mhz GPU: Nvidia 1080ti OS: Win 7 Pro 64-bit Storage: Crucial BX100 SSD Benchmark A: 3m35s Benchmark B: 4m30s Benchmark C: 6m21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I am not a pro about the specifics which are important for different kind of saves. I have a i7 7700k, so the speed is quite fast when I do a save with all leagues playable with details level on minimum. Then I started a save where all leagues are playable and several competitions on max detail level (then FM uses the full simulation software I think. So there should be the big benefit of 6 core + over 4 cores) That's why amd is slower in this test. If there would be a test with a high detail level AMD with 6 or more cores should be much faster. Or am I wrong? Cheers Daveincid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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