agiannop Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Thanks for all the hard work Dan. In Hellenic League Premier Division , you must replace Oxford City Nomads with Virginia Water. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsterman Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Out of interest, any plans to add the York Minster Engineering League(s)? Starts down at Level 14 with the Premier Division, down to level 17 with Division Three, can find everything on their website if needed, however you've got a lot to do already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Slowly getting there, some days are good, some are bad, depends what mood I'm in. Already planned my next database once this has finished, I'm looking forward to starting it! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Dan BHTFC said: Slowly getting there, some days are good, some are bad, depends what mood I'm in. Already planned my next database once this has finished, I'm looking forward to starting it! You're coming across a bit GRR Martin there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletfootball Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Hello Dan, I've been studying your database in order to try and create my own lower league update for my own interest. The amount of editing you must do, and the attention to detail is breathtaking. Given that SI provide no guide for the editor and the in-editor tooltips can be vague to say the least, I've really learnt a lot from you, and you've increased my enjoyment of the game a great deal. One thing I noticed , the North West Premier has its western boundary set as Halifax. Should Halifax be the eastern boundary? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, phnompenhandy said: You're coming across a bit GRR Martin there! What Dan isn't telling, is what music he is listening when working on this. I bet is Game Of Thrones theme in constant loop. Edited November 28, 2018 by grade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, grade said: What Dan isn't telling, is what music he is listening when working on this. I bet is Game Of Thrones theme in constant loop. My point is, GRRM has just released a new book. Not the book everyone was waiting for, but a book no one was waiting for. Mind you, I'm still reading it, which is slowing down my FM career! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delped Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I'd like to see 11 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League 12 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Division One 13 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League Division Two or 11 West Riding County Amateur Football League 14 Yorkshire Amateur League Premier Division 15 Yorkshire Amateur League Championship Division 16 Yorkshire Amateur League Division One 17 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Two 18 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Three 19 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Four 20 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Five 21 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Six I think both go into the Level 10 Northern Counties East League Division One. I think!! Thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato_bennett Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, delped said: I'd like to see 11 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League 12 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Division One 13 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League Division Two or 11 West Riding County Amateur Football League 14 Yorkshire Amateur League Premier Division 15 Yorkshire Amateur League Championship Division 16 Yorkshire Amateur League Division One 17 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Two 18 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Three 19 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Four 20 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Five 21 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Six I think both go into the Level 10 Northern Counties East League Division One. I think!! Thank you. Hold on a minute... you've just slagged off the work Dan does in another thread and now you're asking him to do stuff? Why not just be patient and if you want more stuff adding to it then do it yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delped Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, stato_bennett said: Hold on a minute... you've just slagged off the work Dan does in another thread and now you're asking him to do stuff? Why not just be patient and if you want more stuff adding to it then do it yourself? No I did not, that would be rude. I said "Different leagues is a good idea, Dan doesn't include any leagues that I'd like in there." So then I thought, hold on why not just ask him as he requested a few post back, as some of you seem to object to someone else having some input. That's not slagging off. Edited November 30, 2018 by delped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato_bennett Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, delped said: No I did not, that would be rude. You have literally just posted in another thread the two following things in a thread of someone who was going to do a level 10 and then decided against it when they decided they'd just use Dan's "Why not if it can be done better." & "Different leagues is a good idea, Dan doesn't include any leagues that I'd like in there. The fanboys don't think about that." As I said Why not just be patient and if you want more stuff adding to it then do it yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delped Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, stato_bennett said: You have literally just posted in another thread the two following things in a thread of someone who was going to do a level 10 and then decided against it when they decided they'd just use Dan's "Why not if it can be done better." & "Different leagues is a good idea, Dan doesn't include any leagues that I'd like in there. The fanboys don't think about that." As I said Why not just be patient and if you want more stuff adding to it then do it yourself? I'm not going to be drawn into an argument with you, but you are reading it wrongly. I didn't read that he was going to use Dans, it looked like he was going to build his own. If things where not reinvented we wouldn't be here with computers or a rebuild of Football Manager each year would we. And no Dan does not have any leagues that I would like to see. Can we please keep to the chat about Level 22 now. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, delped said: I'd like to see 11 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League 12 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Division One 13 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League Division Two or 11 West Riding County Amateur Football League 14 Yorkshire Amateur League Premier Division 15 Yorkshire Amateur League Championship Division 16 Yorkshire Amateur League Division One 17 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Two 18 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Three 19 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Four 20 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Five 21 Yorkshire Amateur League Division Six I think both go into the Level 10 Northern Counties East League Division One. I think!! Thank you. If I can find all the relevant club information then I could possibly do this There's only 1 problem doing the Yorkshire Amateur Leagues, it won't be able to promote into the West Riding Edited November 30, 2018 by Dan BHTFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stato_bennett Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Dan how long do you think it'll be until you've managed to do the FA Vase stuff? I'm toying about starting a new career mode but I'd rather hang on until the FA Vase is done before doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, stato_bennett said: Dan how long do you think it'll be until you've managed to do the FA Vase stuff? I'm toying about starting a new career mode but I'd rather hang on until the FA Vase is done before doing. Once I complete Level 11 I can do the FA Vase, still have no timescale yet but work is getting in the way of progress as the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delped Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Thanks Dan, I got my info from here although I don't know how accurate the info is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system The teams in the 11 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League12 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Division One13 Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Football League Division Two seem to be correct but weirdly it says that the Yorkshire Amateur League is a feeder to the West Riding County Amateur Football League. It did seem odd jumping 14 to 11. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Hey, just a quick question - will teams like Corinthian-Casuals and the University teams be able to remain amateur? Similarly, for the University teams can they be fixed to only have 18+ year olds and be restricted to newgens only? I remember trying it with a previous FM but it was bugged! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) Uni sides have max age of 23, I noticed when I put Corinthian-Casuals as amateur in FM18 that they rose through the leagues pretty quick. Also in regards to Uni sides only having newgens, the only way to do that is to give them a lengthy transfer ban so they are only bringing through their own players Edited December 1, 2018 by Dan BHTFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dan BHTFC said: Uni sides have max age of 23, I noticed when I put Corinthian-Casuals as amateur in FM18 that they rose through the leagues pretty quick Uni sides have plenty of postgrads - there shouldn't be an age limit, just strictly amateur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickelZ Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 7 hours ago, phnompenhandy said: Uni sides have plenty of postgrads - there shouldn't be an age limit, just strictly amateur. You say that, not sure what the rules are in England, but in South Africa, one of our top sides is a Varsity side (Bidvest WITS). 3rd in our Premier league at the time of posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, SickelZ said: You say that, not sure what the rules are in England, but in South Africa, one of our top sides is a Varsity side (Bidvest WITS). 3rd in our Premier league at the time of posting. I was just referring to the subject of this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickelZ Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, phnompenhandy said: I was just referring to the subject of this thread. I understand. No stress, just saying they should be allowed to turn professional 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MullinZ Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 How it is going, any updates? No problem if not! I'm just being an impatient twit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoPolska Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) Do you will all level eleven ? Edited December 3, 2018 by ChicoPolska Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 19 hours ago, MullinZ said: How it is going, any updates? No problem if not! I'm just being an impatient twit! Still editing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_987 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Getting really excited for this, appreciate all your hard work. Currently still playing and enjoying the FM17 version - Dan BHTFC England Lower Leagues with a woeful Level 9 team. Makes previously starting a long term save in the Conference North/South feel unrealistic, even with a media predicted 21st-23rd team. Shortly will invest in FM19 and get ready for a few late nights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mensbums1 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I've only just created an account but have played the game for years. Looking forward to starting a Falmouth Town save! Have had the game downloaded for a while but am waiting for this database so as to begin. Dan, is there a way you could offer an option for donations? If there would be an issue with SI it could just be as donations for your time - beer fund! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschprs Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 How do you avoid your players all walking away during the first transfer window when they're on an amateur contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, rschprs said: How do you avoid your players all walking away during the first transfer window when they're on an amateur contract? You don't - it's an occupational hazard. Bear in mind it happens to your rivals too. I'm used to a late surge when the clubs above me are weakened by defections. Where you can make a difference that the AI managers can't is to work at keeping your best players happy, loving the club and you. You can often persuade them to stay if the interested club is also amateur and not offering wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschprs Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: You don't - it's an occupational hazard. Bear in mind it happens to your rivals too. I'm used to a late surge when the clubs above me are weakened by defections. Where you can make a difference that the AI managers can't is to work at keeping your best players happy, loving the club and you. You can often persuade them to stay if the interested club is also amateur and not offering wages. Doesn't really make sense right? These are amateurs. Born and raised in the village, played for the club their whole lives. They have a job in the village. They don't just pack up and leave, do they? First window I have 7 first team players leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwchriste Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, rschprs said: Doesn't really make sense right? These are amateurs. Born and raised in the village, played for the club their whole lives. They have a job in the village. They don't just pack up and leave, do they? First window I have 7 first team players leaving. The game wasn't designed to model pub-club amateur player behavior realistically. But you can use this to your advantage as well. You can poach players from other clubs too. Also, if a player is a complainer, release him with no consequences before it affects the whole squad. After the first 2-3 seasons, you can build up a squad with decent personalities that will stick with you through thick and thin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie8217 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 13 hours ago, rschprs said: How do you avoid your players all walking away during the first transfer window when they're on an amateur contract? There is away. The players you want make them players/coaches or scouts etc. Give them 30/40 year contacts thy stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyStephenson Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, rschprs said: How do you avoid your players all walking away during the first transfer window when they're on an amateur contract? If they are stolen by another amateur club you can usually just enter negotiations straight away and get them back! But if they go for money I just see it as realistic! If an amateur player is scouted and offered money to play somewhere else in real life 9 times out of 10 they will leave! Edited December 4, 2018 by MikeyStephenson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Few more divisions created in Level 11, I have 10 more to do from the original file then 2 or 3 new ones to create 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, Dan BHTFC said: Few more divisions created in Level 11, I have 10 more to do from the original file then 2 or 3 new ones to create Have you managed to create the playoff systems at Level 7 & 8 on your file in the advanced editor? I have had a go at creating it on my Level 10 file but I keep getting nation rule errors, mainly due to dates. I have asked Claassen if he would be willing to help me as he has it set up in is England file but I have not received a response as of yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, lionel messi said: Have you managed to create the playoff systems at Level 7 & 8 on your file in the advanced editor? I have had a go at creating it on my Level 10 file but I keep getting nation rule errors, mainly due to dates. I have asked Claassen if he would be willing to help me as he has it set up in is England file but I have not received a response as of yet. I tend not to dabble with the Advanced Rules as it's broken my files in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Dan BHTFC said: I tend not to dabble with the Advanced Rules as it's broken my files in the past I know what you mean as same has happened to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollopovey Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 04/12/2018 at 01:55, rschprs said: How do you avoid your players all walking away during the first transfer window when they're on an amateur contract? If a club offers your player a contract then just offer them a new one at the same time. Most of the time they’ll stay with you (unless they’re unhappy or actual wages being offered by then other team!) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschprs Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 18 hours ago, apollopovey said: If a club offers your player a contract then just offer them a new one at the same time. Most of the time they’ll stay with you (unless they’re unhappy or actual wages being offered by then other team!) I'll try that. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan BHTFC Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 It's one of the problems doing a database that goes down this low, I could make every team semi pro but that's not real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dan BHTFC said: It's one of the problems doing a database that goes down this low, I could make every team semi pro but that's not real It's one of those "problems" that make most of us love your database! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshjohnson Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 How do I download the database? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzP Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 04/12/2018 at 04:00, rschprs said: Doesn't really make sense right? These are amateurs. Born and raised in the village, played for the club their whole lives. They have a job in the village. They don't just pack up and leave, do they? First window I have 7 first team players leaving. As someone who coaches at a Level 12 club, yes they do. They'll just go an play for the team five or ten miles down the road or they'll just not play for a while whilst they have a sulk about being left out of the starting eleven for three games on the bounce. The only way Dan could make this more realistic is if there was a way to add in a random 'Sorry boss, I can't play on Saturday as work are making me cover someone's shift' unavailability. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, GazzP said: As someone who coaches at a Level 12 club, yes they do. They'll just go an play for the team five or ten miles down the road or they'll just not play for a while whilst they have a sulk about being left out of the starting eleven for three games on the bounce. The only way Dan could make this more realistic is if there was a way to add in a random 'Sorry boss, I can't play on Saturday as work are making me cover someone's shift' unavailability. Exactly. The limitations are due to Football Manager, the makers of which never intended for leagues to go so far down and don't endorse the edits, not Dan. If it's not for you, rsc, you're free to not use it, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtaddy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 sorry if this has already been asked and answered but is the the level 11 completed with all cups, prize money etc sorted. Thanks James p.s great work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jtaddy said: sorry if this has already been asked and answered but is the the level 11 completed with all cups, prize money etc sorted. Thanks James p.s great work Not yet (afaik) - Dan is still working on it - see his post from Tuesday night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyStephenson Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 12 hours ago, joshjohnson said: How do I download the database? If you go to the second post of this thread there is a download link! Just download it then place it in the editor data file! For me I think it's Sports interactive/Football Manager 2019/editordata 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan BHTFC Posted December 11, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2018 So I've been thinking about what to do in the future for this database, I think once complete to Level 22 I'd like to do a full database down to Level 12 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malarkan Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Dan BHTFC said: So I've been thinking about what to do in the future for this database, I think once complete to Level 22 I'd like to do a full database down to Level 12 would be amazing sounds like you have more fun this year around in comparison with last years struggles... if correct its a good sign! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFFC Razza Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Dan BHTFC said: So I've been thinking about what to do in the future for this database, I think once complete to Level 22 I'd like to do a full database down to Level 12 That would be really good for me especially as my local team Hucknall Town play in the Central Midlands League South Division at the 11th Level. I don't know whether the Central Midlands League North/South Divisions are being included the Level 22 database but I'll happily look forward to both the Level 22 & full Level 12 Databases respectively as no matter how long it takes, we all appreciate your attention to detail with these databases & the time you put in to do them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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