nedos Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Thanks, that helps a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) knap in third season with newcastle i am using beowulf 4231 and beowulf 451...very good roster and results!!do we have a get o goal 424 beowulf tactic for the last half hour of games?? Edited January 5, 2019 by geomprikos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhagster Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 15/12/2018 at 13:42, knap said: I don't set corner takers if its short then the receiver is more importent @knap is dribbling or crossing more important for the receiver in your opinion?@ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 It is set up with MCs to receive and I've not really found a better system although using opposite feet may work better, If the set up does not work then perhaps try a different receiver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamAaron223 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) First time playing FM so after 5 seasons I tried to see what other peoples tactics were like, tried yours and season ended like this - Not going as well in second season, think teams maybe got used to it but a lot of fun cheers! Shame Arsenal beat me 2-0 at gameweek 25 was looking great until then, managed to win all cups Edited January 5, 2019 by HamAaron223 missed something out 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vels Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 @knap What about individual training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 I only use AM but you can train roles as a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Tested with Lpool in FMT no Os Training AM !FM19.2.1BEOWULF442WPFKnapP08ALLCUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 High Scoring version !FM19.2.1BEOWULF442WPFKnapP107.fmf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djels Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, knap said: High Scoring version !FM19.2.1BEOWULF442WPFKnapP107.fmf Jesus christ goals 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CABECOU PECOU Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Hi knap best wishes for this new year. Your work is unbelievable! I want to know please how worked wingers in these tactics and on your last 4321? Left foot at right ? Or it doesnt matter? Thx a lot for your work. Ps: in your last 4321 you use 2 am (moc), how much please the foot is important? Greetings Edited January 8, 2019 by CABECOU PECOU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eflakbogdanbeyi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 PF is a very good option. But Knap what you say Beowulf 442 with F9 and PF both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 FM 19.2.1 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM !FM19.2.1BEOWULF424KnapP112.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goobie Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 !FM19.2.1BEOWULF424KnapP112.fmf Levante 95pt FMT holiday whole season no transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 !FM19.2.1BEOWULF424KnapP112.fmf Tested in Holidays in Fm touch with Nimes French team became Ligue 2 ! Great results ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Again tested with Fm touch in holidays with Saint Etienne media prediction 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimusprimal82 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just posted this on the Discord so sorry to anyone who lurks in both zones for having to read my waffle twice - you may have spotted there are one or two Knap tactic threads so you may spot this in one or two others just to spread the love and help prevent people chewing their dogs face off having conceded yet another late goal! "Anyone using Knap's tactics with the later corner routines may want to bear this in mind, especially so when setting up an SUS as it's far more prevalent later in the game when the AI is going gung-ho. Been studying more and more how I concede goals - lots are direct free kicks, far too many worldy strikers, but otherwise I get alot of 2 on 1's, may of which are coming from my own set pieces it turns out; My guy misses his header unsurprisingly, ball breaks and notice AI has 3 guys up top against just ONE of my guys - glimmer of hope that maybe it'll be flagged as offside; Ruthlessly irritating AI knows what it's doing though - I'd argue he's interfering with play as a 2 on 1 but referees i guess! Rest is inevitable; Note that this example happened with mentality set to very defensive and all my SUS options turned on. Done some testing and it's consistent across mentalities and with different tactics. Doesn't always happen ofc - an ultra defensive AI is never leaving 3 attackers up the pitch, they don't seem to try it as much if you're multiple goals ahead either, but be wary and maybe - if leading - think about swapping your attacking corner routines for something more defensive. Haven't observed it with throws as yet, nor have I tried it with a top level team so maybe doesn't happen as much with them (although possibly they'd more ruthlessly exploit it?). Hope it helps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) What would AI do, if you put 3 attackers when they are taking corners? Is it even possible. In FM17 or 18 I saw Rashidi video on youtube where he had one striker at center of the pitch ready to burst forward, and one player in opposition midfield (with good first touch, off the ball and passing) that catches the ball if it bounce of the corner, giving him chance to quickly pass to striker. Sometime it work to execute a successfull counter attack. What I hate about FM19 ME is, that I think SI didn't improve the ME at all, they just made obstacles to make play harder and make our players look like fools on the pitch. Edited January 9, 2019 by Chief Scout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 The AI are outnumbered at a corner, which is not the best way to win ball back. Players are more dynamic on the field than a static corner set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hello Knap. I´m trying your 424-112p with my Celta de Vigo squad. I´m implementing it in pre-season. It´s my second season and all my important players are gone (the positive thing is that i have over 60 million to spend in new players). I wonder what positions are more important in this tactic and what kind of players do i need to perform better. Anyway, i´m not a top team (although in my first season i finished 5th) so i´m not sure if this tactic will work or if it´s only for top teams. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Nearly always WBs and Fwds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 What kind of club would you recommend the '!FM19.2.1DEEPSICILIANDEFENCEKnapP103' to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Maybe Fulham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hi Knap! Good to see the Deep Sicilian again, would u say it works about the same as before? Good for underdog teams and so on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 It is same set up so hopefully works in same way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The few games ive tested the tactic, it looks the same, very good and stable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stremka Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Knap, answer to me, please? Can I use this tactic (Beowollf424 112pts) for underdog? Which tactics for underdog? Edited January 10, 2019 by Stremka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 I would try the P112 at home but maybe use Deep Sicilian defence Away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 hace 1 hora, knap dijo: I would try the P112 at home but maybe use Deep Sicilian defence Away. Going to try this, as my Celta de Vigo squad is maybe sub-top. In Deep Sicilian does it matter the prefered foot for the wide midfielders? i´m using inside forwards in P112. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Depends upon cut inside ppm -Easy way is to use quick pick and see which way AM puts them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I've been using the 442 P05 with some success at Brackley in the Vanarama North. I lost the playoff final last season and in a good battle for the league title this season. We usually score plenty by my only issue is that the high line leaves my goalkeeper very exposed at times and we concede a lot more than I would like. This may be due to the level of players involved in this system, but it means we can hit a bit of a slump when not scoring as we are always exposed. Is there a tactic a bit more solid (deeper?) defensively without sacrificing too much when attacking? My record as manager so far; Played- 82 Won- 56 Drawn- 17 Lost- 9 Scored- 219 Conceded- 91 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma9lstroM Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I've used a lot of the 442/4411 variants in lower league, what i end up doing is dropping def line and line of engagement to higher/standard or standard/standard and removing offside trap. Works pretty well still Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, ma9lstroM said: I've used a lot of the 442/4411 variants in lower league, what i end up doing is dropping def line and line of engagement to higher/standard or standard/standard and removing offside trap. Works pretty well still Thanks, will give it a tweak and see what works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM !FM19.2.1BEOWULF442IWKnapP111ALLCUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, knap said: Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM !FM19.2.1BEOWULF442IWKnapP111ALLCUPS.fmf What's different with this from the previous Beowulf442? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Based on the 424 and with IWs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnysarg Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Your latest 4-2-4 do you have to have the wingers left foot on right and vice versa ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnysarg Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Your latest 4-2-4 do you have to have the wingers left foot on right and vice versa ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Tested with MU no OIs Training AM !FM19.2.1BEOWULF4240KnapP112ALLCUPS.fmf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Strikerless does look interesting and might be a potential workaround for lack of striker movement in current ME. Will definitely give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Thats absolutely insane, and the goal difference! Such a shame to sell of all your strikers tho QQ.. No wonder Lukaku is unhappy in your screenshot haha.. Edited January 10, 2019 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 One of the problems with testing with real squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 With Lpool you have cut inside ppms, so opposite feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Knap without PPMs would you suggest right foot on right side etc even as inverted wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Left on right is working well with these tactics, so may be worth trying without ppms. However, a little bit of trying different combinations during a game may help if not having any success. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djels Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Guessing this is best tactic now 112 mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 4411 Version !FM19.2.1BEOWULF4411IWKnapP107.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 vor 10 Stunden schrieb knap: I would try the P112 at home but maybe use Deep Sicilian defence Away. This! The new 4240P112 with the two AM at home and the Deep Sicilian Defense for away matches (and vs top 6 of the league at home). Thats absolutely domination as underdog ;). Will post some results this weekend! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4420 absolutely insane as valencia!!!! It is time to try a 41410 knap.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimusprimal82 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Agree on the 424 P112 - Only about 7 or 8 games in so far but my team is very average for the league (newly promoted in League two) and won all but one of them (that one saw me get a red card and the AI used the corner exploit I posted yesterday)! Should add I was already top of my league, but I was having to manage them through each game a lot, much less so with this so far. Anyone struggling with closing out a game, feel free to have a go with my SUS; FCU_19.2.1BEO424KnapP112SUS_1.1.fmf Obviously if you switch to it from a non 424 formation then it might screw player positions up. If I'm winning, I switch to cautious mentality around 65-75 minutes, then turn this on around 80-82. You could try it earlier if struggling,/really close game and the AI are attacking, but think you're inviting pressure if so. If anyone wants to make their own with respective tactics, I usually; - set mentality to defensive (occasionally ultra if im being hammered) - move defensive line and LOE back two notches each - change goalie distro to 'slow pace down' - change when lost possession to 'regroup' - change when win possession to 'hold shape' - change full backs to 'no nonsense' - if my DC's are having bad games I may change them to 'no nonsense', but that's an in-game decision rather than every time - remove 'get stuck in' from tackling to avoid conceding free kicks Edited January 10, 2019 by optimusprimal82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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