Rober82 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Sicilian 4222 straight to the top at FM BASE with 20 points! @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 @knap Can you please give me the download link for FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am not sure how that system works, although I thought 20 was nigh on impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, stian said: @knap Can you please give me the download link for FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101? FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS (1).fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 In the list now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, knap said: I am not sure how that system works, although I thought 20 was nigh on impossible. Have they changed something? For sub top 5 different tacs now at 20 points, but not the Sicillian..Fantastic for underdog i suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Underdog or away tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarmyArmy0301 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, knap said: Underdog or away tactic underdog, somehow have got Oxford promoted from League one in the first season, have a feeling its going to be very tough in the championship as they aren't the best funded of clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Championship is always difficult as it becomes harder to find and pay the salaries requested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 How many CCC are created by your rivals ? Currently i'm playing with Inter, using ARGUS 352. I've spared nine points in the last three away games, but the defensive play was really awful. From one side, 5-3 win on the pitch of my fierce rivals look impressive, but giving them 7 CCC to score makes my frightened in the perspective of another difficult matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 The problem tends to be caused by balls over the top, using a much higher DL. The Sicilian uses a dropped DL. However White Europe appears to have used a much higher DL but positive mentality. Obviously this is a risk reward situation but following Sicilian I will look a dropping the DL for a number of tactics. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaAlbin_88 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 It feels like The Sicilian plays better with positive mentality for my Gothenburg team, at least i get about the same amount of shots and goals but get less against me, more control maybe, maybe thats just how my team works :P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermcr1 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Damn you knap! Just when I thought I was out, you pull me back in! I'll have to try the Sicilian ... Edited December 13, 2019 by fermcr1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llainen Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Why are all tactics tackle harder etc just so insanely many cards eevry game..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoensousa Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 hours ago, themario said: So I've just finished my 3rd season with Milan: 3 x Seria A Champions 2 x Champions League Champions Tactic: tweakd @knap 4-1-4-1 cuz it's my favorite system to play. It's balanced both in defence and in attack and It's fun to watch. Also I mixed it with @knap 4-4-2 BEOWULF 107AllCups in some matches. Most games I've played my self exept for some low rating matches. For those how like to test it, I upload it under this post. Milan kanp 4141 v2 NEW !!.fmf 45.03 kB · 250 downloads Hi @themario, cheers for your excelent results but can you put your best 11 on your tactic positions and put a SS here please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABRAXUS Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Eintracht Frankfurt Half Seasons @knap Nice Tactic thank you FM20.2PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDMUP86PL.fmf Edited December 13, 2019 by ABRAXUS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themario Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Darren77 said: Any AI istructions? AM handles all AI instructions exept team talk. Edited December 13, 2019 by themario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themario Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 hours ago, kandersson said: @themario nice squad! Could you please post your first choice eleven? This is my usual starting eleven. But in my experience rotating squad quite often gives you fresh and happy players all along the season. Mostly I rotate WBs and IFs cuz they make the biggest work on the pitch. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themario Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Ivoensousa said: Hi @themario, cheers for your excelent results but can you put your best 11 on your tactic positions and put a SS here please? It's one post above : ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 @knap I love the Sicilian tactic, I get very good results, but one thing bugs me, against liverpool away or on neutral I tend to lose those games 5-1 while every other game or every other european competitor I do at least OK (draw, win or small loss). How come Liverpool is consequently so much stronger in most of the encouters (most of my test runs are with Man City) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Now FMT has updated I can use other club s. In general Lpool MC games are very even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 May have to drop DL below std. Just tried it with 4132 against MC and won 3-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, knap said: May have to drop DL below std. Just tried it with 4132 against MC and won 3-0. This is interesting. What LOE & DL are you testing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Same as Sicilian which is higher, however, if you are up against Lpool attack then may be worth dropping DL further. Sicilian still uses a much higher LOE If you don't have an issue defending then a high DL is not an issue and a tactic like P107 442 may be best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, knap said: Same as Sicilian which is higher, however, if you are up against Lpool attack then may be worth dropping DL further. Sicilian still uses a much higher LOE If you don't have an issue defending then a high DL is not an issue and a tactic like P107 442 may be best option. I'm having good results with a tweaked Sicilian: 1 notch below standard D-line (so quite deep). (all other settings same as the default sicilian tactic) Won Belgian third division first season with team that was predicted last, and won PL with liverpool Edited December 13, 2019 by DavyDepuydt1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 That FL setting can work and certainly will win PL with Lpool. What was the final table with Lpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorrah the Andal Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Using the FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS here with Fenerbahçe, and it works really well for me, especially against other top teams. Second season in a row I made it to the semifinals in the CL beating teams like PSG and Manu. Only struggling against smaller teams in the domestic competition (might be because I rotate alot during these games) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren77 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: I'm having good results with a tweaked Sicilian: 1 notch below standard D-line (so quite deep). (all other settings same as the default sicilian tactic) Won Belgian third division first season with team that was predicted last, and won PL with liverpool Have you unticked offside trap? Or should I leave it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Darren77 said: Have you unticked offside trap? Or should I leave it? I still had it activated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 FM20.2BEOWULF442WAFKnapP107ALLCUPS Won PL and EL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobyone Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Anyone else here who struggles with 1v1 and through balls over the top, or is it just me? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Try Sicilian P101 as has a slightly dropped DL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 P107 442 works well with Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoensousa Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Hi again @themario, do you think will work on an underdog team? Inverted Wingers do you play with left foot on left and right foot on right or oposite? The mentality do you play always with Attacking or do you change? Because im thinking try to use on my save with a underdog team :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatSam Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 @knap you got any tactic suggestions for non-League or for a team such as Newtown in Wales consisting a lot of non contracts players? Thanks in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 23 hours ago, knap said: Did you find the much higher DL a problem with CP so far higher DL just works better with underdog, didnt get same result with palace with lower DL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 The balls over the top is proving difficult to replicate. I use same tactics in VNS as I would in PL. However, I would suggest Sicilian P101 as DL is slightly lower than other tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappes2400 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Hi Knap. Thanks for all the work you are doing! Im having fair amount of succes with the argus 3-5-2 as a Danish top team. The only issue is that I am suffering quite a bit of through balls. Over my defence. Do you have a way to solve it? My team is built for 3-5-2 so I want to stick to the formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 At the moment it is about dropping DL when necessary, either Higher (used with Sicilian) std or lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 @knap Using Sicilian as Liverpool could Mane play on the left or would he have to be retrained? In general do you usually retrain players who play as inside forwards to the ML/MR positions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 I would re train them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llainen Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) having the usual 1billion shots every game scores 1 goal.... every tactic this year Can someone please explain why these tactics seems to work amazingly with everyone else? But with my Fenerbache teamits utter useless? This is a serious question so please help so maybe i can try do something:P Edited December 14, 2019 by Llainen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClairvoyanT Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 saat önce, Llainen said: having the usual 1billion shots every game scores 1 goal.... every tactic this year Can someone please explain why these tactics seems to work amazingly with everyone else? But with my Fenerbache teamits utter useless? This is a serious question so please help so maybe i can try do something:P Im also playing with Fenerbahce and i had success with Tff zeus tactic. Did you try zeus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vins1977 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 hi knap i have never thank you before so i would like to thank you for all the years you gave me fun with your tactics i don't think i got so much fun if i don't have your tacticssince many years for me they are some of the best tactics if not the best but i have don't try all the tactics so i let others decide and this year too you bring many tactics and before the second patch the results were amazing but the patch have change some things you have struggle to find the good tactics ,you have work under complain from some on the forum but i never see you in anger you always respond the best you can better that some deserve personnaly your tactics like 422 leipzing were working i was winning but taking a little too much goal because i was used to great defensive tactics but now i use sicilian 442 and that work very well i only play 2 matchs with it for now but i have won 3-0 and 4-0 so i think that works very good i play with varese on a database of italy from steam workshop on this database it's a club from the 20th league with 5 cups i was predict 23 and i'm first but i have begin this save with another tactics from someone else with very good results but it's a 532 and i don't have the players in my team to fit the role correctly it's not that i can't recruit players to fit the role but that can seem strange but i like my team like that because they are many who have good potential it's far to be the greatest team of the league (my best player have 54 ca for now and the best of the second team their best player is 79) but i have 2 stars in structure (the two) and i think they can develop in a great team for my league before the end of the season it's because of that i have decided to change from this tactic to yours despite having very good results with a very good defence and a good offense (i have only lost 1 match and it was a cup match against a team from serie b (2nd league) and their best was 117 ca and i have lost only 3-2 and because i have listen to my assistant manager who tell me to play defensive at the place of offensive maybe i have win if not for that not maybe by much but who knows) because you and others recommand it and i was not deceived maybe i have play only 2 match by now but with great defence and very good attack so thank you very much again sorry for the long post but i was having many things in mind and i would like to write them to the best i can (excuse me for my english far to be perfect) i'm happy with your tactic and they are no problem but i would like a suggestion for a second tactic (for lower league) in case of need whith good defence and maybe not so good defence that sicilian but at least good enough to have a draw against stronger teams i think i have read that you were working to improve the defence of some of your other tactics and even if that take time i can wait your sicilian works very well and i don't need it for now your tactic is very good but if you think you can have a better tactic that is fom the same level of the 4222 leipzing offensively during the first patch i'm open to suggestion but it's not so important it's just that the results were so good whit it (my best match was a 14-0 with a team of the8th league of england) that your best tactic seems so poor in goals even if i have win 3-0and 4-0 but if you don't have it's fine i can confirm that your tactic is very good and all i need is a good second tactic in case of need i know you suggest to other the argus but it's the same problem that with the other tactic i don't have the players tofit the role and i have too many midfielder right and left and defensive right or left to retrain them all and like i say i don't know why but i like that team so much that i have recruit nobody i have just lest my head of youth recruit some under 18 he has recruit 6 and the best have a potential of 41 and a ca of 36 but some are already part of my best xi so you see my team is really a lower team but i win against better teams because of your tactic and the other one so i have fun and they are 5 cups (4 now because i have lost a match of cup)at the lower level sorry i have not finished yet have you changed something to the goals because i have scored 4 goals who are the best i have seen since at least a year the first match i have score 3 goals from 20 meters with power and very beautiful except one that feels irrealistic because the player shot the ball rebound on another come back to him and he shot immediatly and boom goal the 4th one was at the 2nd match the replay started from the midfield on the left the player run with the ball and he must have see the forward running on the other side because he shot a long pass who reminds me one from beckham the ball pass over 2 defender (one far and one not far from my forward)and my forward receipt the ball and run like mbappé at the world cup (maybe not so fast and not for so long but that reminds me a good souvenir and yes i'm french) and when he enters the surface he shot a powerful and beautiful goal on the other side and the goal jump but can do nothing this 4 goals reminds me of goals from the england premiereship but my best player is 54 ca so i don't really understand because with the other tactics i have scored good freekics and some good shots sometimes from 20 meters but not so much than usual but not not to the point of those four goals in 2 matchs i know you haven't change nothing but i was so amazed by those goals that i feel the need to write it maybe it's a new bug who knows sorry for the long read and excuse me again for my english if you want more information about my team to give me a better advice just ask i'm not always here because i play most of the time but i answer the fastest i can good read 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 hours ago, crew2 said: @knap Using Sicilian as Liverpool could Mane play on the left or would he have to be retrained? In general do you usually retrain players who play as inside forwards to the ML/MR positions? Meaning: Using the Sicilian 4222, with the ML has inside foot in order for me to provide more through ball? So as MR should be left footed to give the same cut inside and then release a through ball effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 A few test results puts the order as follows FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101 FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 FM 20 ARGUS 352 FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 FM 20 SICILIAN 4222 P98 FM 20 FM 20 WULF 4141 FM 20 SYMPATHY 442 FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 BEOWULF 442 P107 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 SM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221 OXFORD BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Edited Thursday a 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) If looking for the most offensive tactic then try BEOWULF 442 A combination of attack defence then try WULF 4132 A good defensive balanced option Sicilian 4222 A good defensive option try WULF 4141 If Favourite for a match try BEOWULF 442 or Tequila Sunrise If underdog for a match try WULF 4132 or Sicilian 4222 or Wulf 4141 Good tactics for sub top Sympathy V1 or 442 or Wulf 4132 Good tactics for underdog try Sicilian 4222 od ULWF 4141 Advise should apply to all levels. Additional options is to change DL to suit your players or use other mentalities like positive to add more control. Edited December 14, 2019 by knap 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, knap said: A few test results puts the order as follows FM 20.2 SICILIAN 4222 P101 FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 FM 20 ARGUS 352 FM 20 WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 FM 20 SICILIAN 4222 P98 FM 20 FM 20 WULF 4141 FM 20 SYMPATHY 442 FM 20 TEQUILA SUNRISE FM 20 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 BEOWULF 442 P107 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 SM 20.2 PILGRIMAGE 41221 OXFORD BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Edited Thursday a Nice, thanks. Using P112Wulf4132 while waiting for recommended list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I'm also wondering when I holiday a full season in FMT with your tactics @knap, I Always get slightly weaker results than you? I win the league with Liverpool or city, or finish close second, Always with 84-91 points, but in your tactics and screenshot you mostly get over 100 points. Is that because I'm holidaying and you play the games and sometimes "game manage" them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmastrich Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Llainen said: having the usual 1billion shots every game scores 1 goal.... every tactic this year Can someone please explain why these tactics seems to work amazingly with everyone else? But with my Fenerbache teamits utter useless? This is a serious question so please help so maybe i can try do something:P Its not just you mate. Exactly the same for me. Mystery at the moment?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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