knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @erzet17 Sid you say you used it France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Tactic tested: BEOWULF442WafKnapP107. Patch 20.2.4 (beta). ACMilan season(1) 2035/20036. Strikers are useless. 1 of 16 UCL. 1st round Italy Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan0404 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, knap said: @Ewan0404 FMT full Fat or Beta? Full fat as in just the game as is atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, knap said: @erzet17 Sid you say you used it France. 'in 20.2.3 tested BOEWULF442P107 (France 2026-2030) great results' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @erzet17 Both tactics had same result when tested by FM Base. I still believe the RNG is a lot higher in 20.2.3 than on previous MEs, which can create bad runs. Using fmrte would tend to eliminate this element more than a normal save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @Ewan0404 I would try beta. Otherwise send me your game and I will have a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyt11 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 hours ago, knap said: @mickyt11 Are you on FMT Full Fat or Beta? Using the full version 20.2.3. I think Man United suit a 4231. Is there a decent working one here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabest Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, knap said: @dabest FM Base have tested tactics in the Beta and have indicated Beowulf 442 P107 is performing better in beta than 20.2.3. If you have a tactic working in a save I would carry on using it in Beta or stick to 20.2.3. At this stage I would not say any tactics I've looked at would be better than existing tactics. Thanks From your testing in the beta, would you say 4-4-2 is still the way to go? I've been trying 1 striker with no success so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan0404 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, knap said: @Ewan0404 I would try beta. Otherwise send me your game and I will have a look. How do you try beta? And if so do you need to start a new save? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 What is RNG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Using FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmf I usually use IR but this time I played the match out. Stonewalled the great Liverpool & Klopp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabest Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: What is RNG? Might be wrong but I think it's something to do with randomness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme RNG is just the luck factor. The idea of long test runs is to eliminate that aspect from the testing. The problem can be having bad luck at the beginning can skew a season of results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @Ewan0404 Beta is right click on steam FM 20 then properties far tab and opt into beta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @dabest Best tested 4231 is Parisienne walkways IF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan0404 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, knap said: @Ewan0404 Beta is right click on steam FM 20 then properties far tab and opt into beta I may be silly but what actually is the beta once the games out? What difference does it make? Is it just the beta versions of the match engine updates coming out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ewan0404 said: I may be silly but what actually is the beta once the games out? What difference does it make? Is it just the beta versions of the match engine updates coming out? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadclear Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Anyone playing beta on Touch? I can only get it to work on Full game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Not on touch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan0404 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: @Ewan0404 Beta is right click on steam FM 20 then properties far tab and opt into beta What tactic do you recommend for me on the beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morewiz Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 What is the best tactic today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinho26 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 @knap wich tactic is more consistent defensively? WulfP101 or sympathy p108, in an sub top team like Sporting Portugal appointed to be 3rd in Portugal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 @Ewan0404 Were you not using your own tactic? I would try that first in the Beta as the beta is a different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Using Wulf 442 DL 101 ECFA , I was wondering is it more effective to have right foot - right mid and left foot - left mid, or more opposite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Probably Wulf Usually right on right but depends on how thay olay within team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukigepard Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I've found Venom&Faith442 p100 to also be okay in the beta, about the same as Beowulf p107, but Venom&Faith p100 is showing to be pretty solid against same level teams and stronger teams also. All round tactic for now. Tried to tweak it little by little, as i tend to do with all knap tactics over the years to try to make them even more efficent, no luck tho. Two CF(s) seem to be working weird, you can score more goals, but also for some reason concede more than with 2 AF's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagaddin Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) My experience with tactics so far in the beta.. Underdog (Wrexham- Wimbledon- Aston villa- Daco Getica) : Leipzig> Venom> Beowulf> Scillian .. not working tactics for me: Wulf 4-1-3-2(inconsistant) and Argus (inconsistant, conceded much but may be my players were not good for it) Subtop (Oulou- Honka- Viitrolul) : Beowulf> Venom> Wulf4-1-3-2> Preachin blues 4-1-4-1> Leipzig .. not working tactics: Parisian (inconsistant), Preachin blues 4-5-1(conceded much) and Scillian (lots of draws where i need to win) Any better suggestion other than the aforementioned tactics? playing Watford and CSKA moscow next Edited January 22, 2020 by tagaddin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBianchin Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 i'm using simpathyforthedevil in the beta and is working like a charm, only exception for the two strikers, can't make them work. Now i'm trying to tweak to change that. The defence is very reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukigepard Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, dBianchin said: i'm using simpathyforthedevil in the beta and is working like a charm, only exception for the two strikers, can't make them work. Now i'm trying to tweak to change that. The defence is very reliable. Maybe they are cut out too much (besides the usual beta engine problems), i'd recommend to try them as CFs(s) or CFs(a) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108 (predicted 19th) Edited January 22, 2020 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, knap said: Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108 (predicted 19th) great results, looking good! With Norwich, so it is a underdog tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 It was the high tempo version. Is there any tactics that anyone would like tested in the Beta? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, knap said: It was the high tempo version. Is there any tactics that anyone would like tested in the Beta? Pure 442 formations like FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA Edited January 22, 2020 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Venom Wulf and Beowulf have been tested and still working in Beta. As not tested by me I will see if I can get the results. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Hey Knap - what would you say is the best 4231 or similar for Newcastle? Struggled with some other tactics. Also, noob question but how do I check what version of the game I'm running, either 20.1 etc etc? Sorry quite new to fm. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, RossGib900 said: Also, noob question but how do I check what version of the game I'm running, either 20.1 etc etc? Sorry quite new to fm. Thanks Click on FM/Click About Football Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: Click on FM/Click About Football Manager. Thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawka Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 hours ago, knap said: Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108 (predicted 19th) Have you played Full games or IR/Holiday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp4rtak22 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) зачем тестировать, когда едешь в отпуск?вы играете результаты как-то хуже online translation: why test when you go on vacation? do you play the results somehow worse Edited January 22, 2020 by KUBI added online translation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvin0131 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 7 hours ago, knap said: Beta independent test Sympathy VOL2P108 (predicted 19th) @knap where is the tactic ??? pls help thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffdekker Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) @knap SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL 4132 P108 Works in beta? Edited January 22, 2020 by jeffers89 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan0404 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 20 hours ago, knap said: @Ewan0404 Were you not using your own tactic? I would try that first in the Beta as the beta is a different. I was and its still not working. What's the best tactic you have for the beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 The P108 above was used with Norwich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Norwich tactic at 2.18ppg FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 FMT I used Beowulf 4132 P106(FM19 P112) with Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 il y a 28 minutes, knap a dit : Norwich tactic at 2.18ppg FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf 45 Ko · 9 downloads Look very good on beta, tested it few games, tactic no clear at all, and a lot of CCC created and easy wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Venom P101 was 1.84ppg with Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypandy44 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 When's the next update? I stopped playing a month ago when every tactic bombed after some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 I would imagine after the transfer window closes and DB is updated 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Wulf 442 DL P101 test is 1.68ppg and Beowulf p107 at 1.67ppg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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