tada250 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Is it normal that the opponent has the possession in all games ? (60-40% in average) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 @tada250 FM 0.2.3 or Beta ? What level of team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tada250 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Beta and Man CIty. I made test with Sicilian, sympathy and wulf, always the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 FM 20.2.3 was about 54% and I would say it has dropped in Beta. I am not using a posted tactic but with Lpool it is 50% average over a season using positive, which would normally give more possession. If using attacking and more standard passing I can see this dropping further. I do not have results of possession from any testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) @knap - whats the best tactic on the BETA for a team predicted to finish 8th in the premier league? Edited January 24, 2020 by MrGreen555 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 @MrGreen555 Tactics appear to be testing better in Beta, so I would still use the sub top list in google docs. The tactics above are all 19 or 20 for sub top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Tactic tested: ARGUS343IFP104FA, MCity season (2036/2037), patch 20.2.4 (beta). 3 losess - all competitions.. Great results. FM20.2.3ARGUSknap343IFP104FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akustik Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) Il y a 14 heures, knap a dit : Recommended Beta Tactics Sicilian P101 Positive/Attacking Sympathy VOL2 P108 PL Win Norwich Wulf 442 DL P101 1.68ppg (20,20,19) Beowulf 442 P107 1.67 ppg (20,20,19) Wulf 442 DL Balanced ppg 1.58 (19,20,18) For the 442/s tactic, ML need to be left footed and MR right footed ? Edited January 25, 2020 by Akustik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 @Akustik Usually left on left but heck cut in ppms. You can test in a match by changing over and see what works best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 @erzet17 Unlucky,, One of my favourite tactics last year with Spurs, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What do you think about defending in wide areas of the pitch, when playing in 442 formations? Here's an example of leaving some free area for wide opposition players, just before losing two goals from crosses. Against some world class wingers, like Jadon Sancho it could be very costly. Maybe assigning specific player marking for my ML and MR, to avoid exposing my wide defenders on 1vs1 against pacey dribblers? Played with 20.2.3Wulf442DLKnap101ECFA. Borussia Dortmund v Real Madrid 2-2.pkm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 @HelmutN Never really worked that well in testing, although I do know it used with some tactics. It is worth trying and reporting back. However, trying to cover defensive holes can weaken the attacking side of tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 20.2.4: Doing pretty fine with English 6th tier Blyth Spartans and FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA. FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmfFM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFASUS.fmf Edited January 25, 2020 by Dreambuilder 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme Did that takeover lead to the sack for no good reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I wasn't sacked. I walked away from both jobs. Took another job in one save, and flat out resigned and waited for decent job opening in the other save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 ^ Only way to stop this lunacy is with FMRTE using the Future Transfers option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 I don't really see the point of introducing features that have the potential to spoil saves. I am not sure that would even be realistic, but then I'm use to Levy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knap fan Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 how is the Lookaway and wulf 4132 p106 in the beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 @Knap fan The P106 is up for testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 @harisnuriakhlaq FM 20.2.3 BLUE MATTER 4213 FM20.2.32BLUEMATTER4213P99.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloneman Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Dreambuilder said: 20.2.4: Doing pretty fine with English 6th tier Blyth Spartans and FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA. FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmf 44.82 kB · 42 downloads FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFASUS.fmf 44.84 kB · 35 downloads Home and Away tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, cloneman said: Home and Away tactics? Yes same tactic. Using mostly Positive mentality at home and mostly balanced away. Note to that I've strengthened the team alot with some good free transfers aswell. Fast strikers and centerbacks mainly. Edited January 26, 2020 by Dreambuilder 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 10 hours ago, knap said: @harisnuriakhlaq FM 20.2.3 BLUE MATTER 4213 FM20.2.32BLUEMATTER4213P99.fmf 43.47 kB · 42 downloads Awesome formation. Leaking alotta goals according to the screenshot tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Narrow tactics are swimming against the tide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erzet17 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Tactic tested: Sympathyforthedevilknapzaipvol2p108. MCity season (2037/2038), patch 20.2.4(beta). Defensive 5/5 - Ofensive 4.5/5. In my opinion TOP1. FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero80 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Hello Knap, i am sorry for my English. I found the klopp's tactic in the game. If I write the missions, would you create a tactic accordingly. Thank you from now. From right to left... SK, CWB(S)-BPD(D)-DC(D)-CWB(S), DLP(S)-BBM, IF(A)-AM(A)-IF(A), PF(A) ----- Attacking Flexibl 4-2-3-1 Edited January 26, 2020 by calimero80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukigepard Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, erzet17 said: Tactic tested: Sympathyforthedevilknapzaipvol2p108. MCity season (2037/2038), patch 20.2.4(beta). Defensive 5/5 - Ofensive 4.5/5. In my opinion TOP1. FM20.2.3SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipVOL2P108FACC.fmf 45.03 kB · 12 downloads Try it with just wingers on attack instead of inverted wings, seems to make it better on offensive on beta Edited January 26, 2020 by vukigepard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hope set piece defending is sorted out in the next patch. over 60% of my goals are conceded from them regardless of the quality of players, it's really pissing me off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 @vukigepard Have you any results with winger option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 What 4231 tactic do you recommend Knap? I'm Everton in the second season with some very good players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf0u Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Agreed, i'm also looking for a good 4231 / 4312 / 433 (3 Midfielders 2 wingers 1 striker) , pretty bored of 442 formations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukigepard Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, knap said: @vukigepard Have you any results with winger option? Yep, used it in every champions league game, my squad in 2023 as Red Star Belgrade is quite strong tho, attribute wise, but still behind Liverpool, Barca, Real Madrid, somewhere around Napoli/Atletico Madrid level. Sorry for messy ss, had problems logging in through computer for some strange reason. Luka Jović top goal scorer with 9 goals 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCArsenal Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, raf0u said: Agreed, i'm also looking for a good 4231 / 4312 / 433 (3 Midfielders 2 wingers 1 striker) , pretty bored of 442 formations Same here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricrpor Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 24/01/2020 at 14:37, knap said: @garyhorton333 As posted by Tagaddin = A good overall summary Just some thoughts on the new ME so far, correct me if iam wrong.. 1- Players have better one vs one scoring chance yet one vs one opportunities are much less frequent now. 2- Players have slightly better targeting no longer shoot directly at the defenders as they used to pre-beta however this issue is not completely resolved. 3- Long balls over the defense moderately decreased, higher DL now is safer to play. 4- Ridiculous matches with you dominating possession and plenty of CCC yet you still lose 1-0 still exists. 5- Penalties still f***** up almost over 80% of shoutouts are lost despite having better players, penalties during matches are wasted more than 2/3 of time. 6- Penalties again are stupidly easily awarded with indirect freekicks, the ai just throws the ball into the box and the refree awards the penalty. 7- Long throws still dangerous even with a player with poor LT attribute. 8- Direct free kicks score less frequently than before. 9- Narrow gameplay is more rewarding and lower mentality now performs better than before. 10- Long shots are much less accurate now. 11- Pass into space not as effective as it were pre-beta Generally a slightly better and less frustrating ME so far. Edited Tuesday at 03:34 by tagaddin Its really impossible to understand how after so many years of the game we still have so many stupid issues on ME 1.number of yellow and red cards completely stupid and unbalance punishing always more human players 2. games of completely domination and losing 1:0 only happens to human players 3. Too many chances created vs scoring 4. possession seems many times unrealistic due to all other stats 5. too many disallowed goals and vast majority to human players 6. mentality changes seems to have in the majority cases the opposite effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 @Dicko1878 Parisienne Walkways is the best tested 4231 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, knap said: @Dicko1878 Parisienne Walkways is the best tested 4231 Will it work on the beta patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 442DLP101CFA Jeez. 10 goals, and it's only HT. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 @Dicko1878 Only a few tactics have been tested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) @FCArsenal Other formations 41221, 4231, 451, 4123, 352. 343, 4213, 343IF 4231(2DMs) Edited January 26, 2020 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 @calimero80 Best way would be to change the roles from Parisienne Walkways and see how it works. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme What was final score? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morewiz Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 hace 19 minutos, Heywood JaBlowme dijo: Where is this tactic? Could you put it around here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, morewiz said: Where is this tactic? Could you put it around here? FM20.2.3Wulf442DLKnapP101ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme 14-0 Win but no 10,0 rating for a striker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Martinez should have gotten a 10.0. Silva would have scored more but I pulled him at HT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podolek Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme its a beta or 20.2.3 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Beta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 As much of an annihilation as that match was, the Wulf442P107 has been more consistent for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 FM 20.2 Tactics TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPEDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW http://bit.ly/knaptactics Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc) Sub Top 5-10 in League Sub Mid 11-15 Underdog the rest Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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