gazzahutc Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, jonnysnipe said: Hmmmm good point may look at switching wingers round as well to keep them on their toes. Lets see what next season brings. By the way Almada had a decent season from AMR have sent pm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortunaSC Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Thank you @knap and @RDF Tactics had a great season using knap's fire and water and rdf's training schedules 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, jonnysnipe said: Hmmmm good point may look at switching wingers round as well to keep them on their toes. Lets see what next season brings. By the way Almada had a decent season from AMR what tactic are you playing him in ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: @OllyP Considerig no ME changes this did not work as well in the update. I did update it for 20.4.1 but FIRE 4312 may be more effective forhigh scoring in Fire 4312 do you change crossing to floated or leave it as it please @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Il y a 2 heures, OllyP a dit : Wow you were right about Fire 4312, first game! Where is the 4312 fire version please ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Josifovski said: Hi Knap, I don’t understand what you mean with “back at score”. Is it if you are loosing 0-1 and just have tied the game? What about when it’s a draw, 0-0? What shout do you use? How often do you use shouts? Is it whenever possible? Shouts during 1st half: - Demand More // Draw // Minute: 25' - 30' (once) - Show Some Passion // Lossing (once) - Praise // Win by 2 or more goals (once) Shouts during 2nd half: Same as above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyP Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, pinardier8282 said: Where is the 4312 fire version please ? ID 1415 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny648 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Is there a strong AML/R Inside Forward tactic this year? No corner exploits either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjpalmer1984 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Could be on for a record here. Last three matches have been double figure scorelines. I know their teams aren't the best. I'm using the 5.4.1 FireAndWater 4321 as my base. I'm still trying to find good tweaks for consistent away performances. Currently playing with match to match small tweaks like cross type, work into box, switching player positions. As a few posts have eluded to it may be hard to switch entire formations between home/away due to cohesion. Also OIs, playing with these, too. I'm Man Utd and England so I'll be quitting both and taking jobs at smaller clubs to really understand what does and doesn't work. As a pointer this tactic in another save has got Sheff Utd to 2nd place first and second season. 2nd season was by goal difference to Liverpool (91pts). Lys Mousset was deadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etelpmoc Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 07.03.2020 at 19:35, knap said: FM 20.4.0 Venom & Faith 442 vol 2 p104 fa cc !!!!FM20.4.0Venom&Faith442KnapVOL2P104FACC.fmf 45 kB · 1.180 downloads Any tweaks for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Having finished season with Wolves in 3rd place in Prem using 4312Fire with floated crosses and Fire and water 4321 . I want a new tactic to push us on for next season? Should i stick with this tactic or is there something else i can use . I would love 3 striker tactic but not sure of it woukd do the trick for 2nd season? Anyone ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Fire and Water with floated crosses and DLP with more direct passing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 FM 20.4.1 BEOWULF 434 P101 EC FA !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BE1WULF424KnapP101ECFA.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClairvoyanT Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 14 dakika önce, RDF Tactics said: Fire and Water with floated crosses and DLP with more direct passing can you share link for this tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 @marksmithlfc1234 The 4312 can use 3 strikers and may be more stable than the Kashmir 433 tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raaalvas Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, pinardier8282 said: What tactic dude? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny648 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just finished my 4th season with Sunderland, Won League 1 first season, got promoted via play-offs second season, finished 6th in both my premier league seasons. In both the premier league seasons i havent been able to settle with a tactic, been changing things around when hitting sticky patches. Ive just finished the season so im looking to rebuild for next with a tactic that could hopefully break into the top 4, ideally with 4 at the back. Any suggestions, i will give the whole season to the one tactics given i dont get sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinardier8282 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 il y a 16 minutes, raaalvas a dit : What tactic dude? FM 20.3 TEAFOR FOR ONE 4411p100CC with positive mentality 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @RDF Tactics what sort of strikers work with float crosses ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @RDF Tactics you think tactics would work better with IWB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPricey Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @knap Hi mate, i've gone back to FM19 because I had a fun save on there and couldn't find one i wanted to do on FM20. I'm using "PILGRIMAGE 4141 P106 ALLCUPS NO LOSS (Newcastle PL and FA Cup Win)" The actual tactic seems good but I haven't been able to get any of my strikers to score consistently/much at all with the formation. Can you give me any tips on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 @JayPricey These were top FM 19 Tactics. There were a few high scoring Salah tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: @RDF Tactics what sort of strikers work with float crosses ?? physical with decent height. i noticed bravery and teamwork is a bonus 23 minutes ago, adlyd90 said: @RDF Tactics you think tactics would work better with IWB? i think it depends on the set up. if you have many midfielders then no. it works good when your team is expected to be low in numbers in midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: i think it depends on the set up. if you have many midfielders then no. it works good when your team is expected to be low in numbers in midfield I mean fire and water tactics ... In fact, there is one midfielder and IWB in the middle of the field to support him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hey @RDF Tactics I am strarting to use your training principles and schedules. I keep getting feedback that I should finish players individual training as it is no longer a weakness (attriubutes beg to differ!) or because they are unhappy with it. Do you get this? I am feeling like just ignoring it as they are only a month into it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @RDF Tactics what happend to your Spurs save mate? I saw that you tweaked one AM to another Striker. You think it's more effective than the original formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I'm really struggling chaps. Potentially facing the first relegation of my FM career. I've started a Boro career with the aim of being full HGC. Promoted first year... second season has been a struggle, admittedly my team isn't top drawer. Please help save my season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelbm87 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 hi friends, whats the best tactic for FCBarcelona in first year? out pique busquets, jordi alba, vidal, suarez and rakitic. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Sutton Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 hours ago, knap said: @jonnysnipe 424 New - still think 4312 will give highest scoring. !!!!!!!FM20.4.1BE1WULF424KnapP101ECFA.fmf 44.9 kB · 72 downloads What the hell is this tactic LOL! 1st game using it........ well 1st 37 mins..... 5-0 against my close rivals for the league 1 promotion race. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygoto Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Hi Knap, Do you have an idea to contest AEGIS tactic from Guru ? Edited April 24, 2020 by Zygoto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zygoto said: Hi Knap, Do you have an idea to contest AEGIS tactic from Guru ? Have you notice something in left back on AEGIS tactic? Knap has been added a fault PI on him "sit narrower". Well, "sit narrower" exist in AEGIS tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygoto Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Thanks for reply, but wich tactic is better for win against ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Adam Sutton said: What the hell is this tactic LOL! 1st game using it........ well 1st 37 mins..... 5-0 against my close rivals for the league 1 promotion race. You Oxford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Sutton Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, adlyd90 said: You Oxford? LOL York CITY of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Adam Sutton said: LOL York CITY of course Well Of course, I'm Oxford and that result obviously did not happen and is a fake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Sutton Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rober82 said: Well Of course, I'm Oxford and that result obviously did not happen and is a fake wait to you get to 2022 York City will be Kings 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 23/04/2020 at 14:43, pukpuk64 said: Hi @knap and @RDF Tactics I would like to have your opinion. I'm doing a long game with a friend, he's using a sort of Beowulf 424 but results are insane. Just to know, our teams are good (average are around 150-170), lot of regens. We only play match, no IR. Don't worry about team name we changed, nothing else is changed. It's in French but players role are not the same as your tactic. Central Defenders are not in Defense but Cover, Wingers are support. Total of opportunities are between 4 and 8 per match, which is insane. A lot of goals come from throw ins/free kicks/corners (30%) and from long ball behind defenders and face to face (40%). I put the last year standing, when he changes his formation, he only makes one draw (3 defeats and 7 draws before). Only 1 defeat in one year, all cups win. This year, 1 draw in 13 match in this capture but the game is now in April and it's 24 wins and 3 draws for him, +57 goals. Around 190 opportunitys for the team, against 130 for me (RDF 4312), 100 for Real Madrid... With English national team, it's a carnage. He won Euro and World Cup with huge results. By my side, I play with RDF 4312, I'm currently 3rd with a lot of "steal games" (more possession, more shots, more opportunities). Face to face games is around 80% for him, and never win away against this 442. If this 424 is played with IR, it is totally not the same (65% victory, 20% draw, 15% defeat). Don't hesitate to tell me why this 424 is working so well when we play with, which tactic could be better and what to do when you play against ! If you could :-) Regards Chonga 424 31 mars.fmf 47.4 kB · 106 downloads Anyone else used this tactic? If so, how have you fared so far please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, adlyd90 said: I mean fire and water tactics ... In fact, there is one midfielder and IWB in the middle of the field to support him. yeah but you also have two AMs so in some scenarios, you can have 5 players in the middle 1 hour ago, Sith Lord said: Hey @RDF Tactics I am strarting to use your training principles and schedules. I keep getting feedback that I should finish players individual training as it is no longer a weakness (attriubutes beg to differ!) or because they are unhappy with it. Do you get this? I am feeling like just ignoring it as they are only a month into it. yeah i get that message but i ignore it...remember, that is only advice from your assistant. he gives advice on many things, but we just ignore them haha we're the better judges at certain things, you can see the players attribute so its up to you when you feel its no longer a weakness 1 hour ago, solounamigo said: @RDF Tactics what happend to your Spurs save mate? I saw that you tweaked one AM to another Striker. You think it's more effective than the original formation? haha i still have the save but stop posting, i have to remember there is other people in this thread and it isn't mine lol need to stop spamming. But for me it became more effective simply because the AI was used to me playing with 1 ST...Knap has a fire and water with 2 STs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlyd90 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: yeah but you also have two AMs so in some scenarios, you can have 5 players in the middle But these AMs are offensive and do not support the midfielder but the striker in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychedelicbeast Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 23 hours ago, knap said: @psychedelicbeast Sicilian 42211 Norwich P82 or a 4411 Belated thanks Knap! Managed to avoid relegation. Onwards and upwards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, adlyd90 said: But these AMs are offensive and do not support the midfielder but the striker in my opinion they very much support the midfielder. Which is why i think "comes deep for ball" is a GOOD trait for one of your AMs. But when your opponent has the ball, your AMs do try and come back to support midfielder to win the ball back this guy is the perfect example...come deep for ball has been very good for him. he can create alongside your playmaker, so the responsibility of creating from midfield isn't just on your DLP. His AVG is 7.39 in the league but the "come deep for ball" is supposed to be a bad trait for this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 @MrGreen555 I would try Sicilian 42211 Norwich P82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseNine Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, kevinSw6 said: Anyone else used this tactic? If so, how have you fared so far please? Did some tests on my "every new season, try a new team and a new tactic" journey at FC Porto in 2022-2023 season. didn't make big transfers. Plug and Play mode. Even if the Portugal League is not a good test environment, results are a bit funny. PS: I cut the results when I tried something different at the start of season + during 2022 world cup friendlies. The things I noticed: - Nice attacking tactic but have problems in defence. - Left striker scoring too much even if his stats are ****, being good option to sell him on decent amount of $. Testing on a top league could be better to get the exact results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnysnipe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Still think 424 with the right tweaking is the best attacking tactic go create most CCCs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinSw6 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, FalseNine said: Did some tests on my "every new season, try a new team and a new tactic" journey at FC Porto in 2022-2023 season. didn't make big transfers. Plug and Play mode. Even if the Portugal League is not a good test environment, results are a bit funny. PS: I cut the results when I tried something different at the start of season + during 2022 world cup friendlies. The things I noticed: - Nice attacking tactic but have problems in defence. - Left striker scoring too much even if his stats are ****, being good option to sell him on decent amount of $. Testing on a top league could be better to get the exact results. Cheers mate.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 FM 20.4.1 BEOWULD 442 IW P105 EC !!!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULFKnapIWP105EC.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnysnipe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, kevinSw6 said: Cheers mate.. This is a good tactic from early results.... 3 home games 8-0, 6-0 and 9-0 and 3 away games 3-0, 4-0 and 4-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIgMacAndFries Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I know you probably get bored with these types of questions but is there a certain underdog tactic I could use in Europe to stop me getting smashed. I completely dominate the league with a fire and water 4321 but as i'm a Danish team I struggle in Europe due to teams like City, Liverpool etc having much higher quality teams atm and I'm looking for a tactic that can maybe help get a few decent results in the Champions League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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