knap Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 FM 20.4.1 Crusho 79bv tweak BEOWULF 4231 P103 ALLCUPS !111!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULF KnapCrusho4231P103ALLCUPS.fmf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Crusho79bv said: Tweaked BEOWULF into a 4231 that gives me crazy result Playing with FC Viitorul Constanta in Romanian First League first season and killing in Europe teams like Espaniol, Besiktas, Standard and Braga Possession 55-65% and 25-40 shots per game BEOWULF Tweak 4231.fmf 44.92 kB · 60 downloads Going to try this, any man marking etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sith Lord said: Going to try this, any man marking etc? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldinho Gaúcho 10 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) What is a good (fast-ish) game setup before starting a “holiday save” to see how the tactic plays out for a season? I’m kinda new to this... (on PC) ...so the season doesn’t take too long to holiday itself. - only load 1 league on minimal detail? Edited May 17, 2020 by Ronaldinho Gaúcho 10 more specific question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BuggieNights15 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 @Crusho79bv Well done sir Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutwale Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Won Serie A 1st season with Sassuolo using !!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1BEOWULF442WAFKnapVOL3POSP103ALLCUPS, thank you very much Knap:-) Edited May 17, 2020 by mutwale 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 FM 20.4.1 VENOM & FAITH 4411 VOL 3 P104 EC CC !!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1VENOM&FAITH4411KnapVOL3P104ECCC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 FM 20.4.1 TIME VOL 2 41221 OXFORD P103 ALL CUPS FM20.4.1TIMEKnapVOL241221OXSPP103ALLCUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BuggieNights15 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, knap said: FM 20.4.1 VENOM & FAITH 4411 VOL 3 P104 EC CC !!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1VENOM&FAITH4411KnapVOL3P104ECCC.fmf 45.01 kB · 18 downloads I was considering setting up fire & water exactly the same way a few minutes before you posted this :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Crusho79bv said: Tweaked BEOWULF into a 4231 that gives me crazy result Playing with FC Viitorul Constanta in Romanian First League first season and killing in Europe teams like Espaniol, Besiktas, Standard and Braga Possession 55-65% and 25-40 shots per game BEOWULF Tweak 4231.fmf 44.92 kB · 139 downloads Won 2 Bundesliga titles, a DFB Pokal and a Champions League so far using this with RB Leipzig for 2 seasons with a very small squad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 ore fa, Crusho79bv ha scritto: Tweaked BEOWULF into a 4231 that gives me crazy result Playing with FC Viitorul Constanta in Romanian First League first season and killing in Europe teams like Espaniol, Besiktas, Standard and Braga Possession 55-65% and 25-40 shots per game BEOWULF Tweak 4231.fmf 44 kb · 146 downloads Seems promising. Two questions: - have you played with IR or watching the games? - mentality stays always on attacking, even for the exploit you had away against stringer teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 FM 20.4.1 TIME 4321 TH P97 CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1TIME4321OXTHP97CC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aOnn1848 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 17/05/2020 at 00:22, knap said: FM 20.4.1 VENOM & FAITH 424 VOL 3 P108 EC CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1Venom&Faith424KnapVOL3P108ECCC.fmf 44.99 kB · 142 downloads Do you recommend this tactic or FM20.4.1BEOWULF424KnapP103ECCCFOR140. I am Newcastle i made some transfers and i want to use this formation but couldn't decide which one is better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Crusho79bv said: Tweaked BEOWULF into a 4231 that gives me crazy result Playing with FC Viitorul Constanta in Romanian First League first season and killing in Europe teams like Espaniol, Besiktas, Standard and Braga Possession 55-65% and 25-40 shots per game BEOWULF Tweak 4231.fmf 44.92 kB · 186 downloads I won EFL 2nd season with Bournemouth - 2 Season saved 2 times Edited May 18, 2020 by TA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, radetzky said: Seems promising. Two questions: - have you played with IR or watching the games? - mentality stays always on attacking, even for the exploit you had away against stringer teams? All games on 3D, i like to watch the games Mentality Attacking, if i`m up by 2 or 3 goals i go Positive mentality in the last 15-20 minutes Rotate players in the League and Cup to keep morale up Edited May 18, 2020 by Crusho79bv 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 hours ago, Ronaldinho Gaúcho 10 said: What is a good (fast-ish) game setup before starting a “holiday save” to see how the tactic plays out for a season? I’m kinda new to this... (on PC) ...so the season doesn’t take too long to holiday itself. - only load 1 league on minimal detail? Have you thought about Touch? Same match engine but less fluff so much quicker. I can holiday a season in about 20 mins. 1 division, small database. It is also good as it supports Instant Result which can give more realistic test results. You manage the squad and then just skip games. With holiday there may not be rotation or players getting unhappy which can affect the morale and performances. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, knap said: @radetzky I originally set them up for Ipad payers rather than having to copy a load of PIs. Optimus used to like them in LL as very simple. To an extent with a good team the player will just play their position, without fitting into a rigid tactic structure. Adding PIs is about trying to push a formation to the limits, which in some cases may only add a few pts to a season or stronger for underdogs. PIs can also be useful for toning down (and also emphasising) a players PPM e.g. shoot less to discourage players who shoot from distance, hold position to stop defensive players with gets forward etc. PPM have a big effect on the game and are hard to take into account when importing tactics created (and tested) with other teams and players. The other players PPMs may have contributed to a positive test so with different teams may not get the same results. Edited May 18, 2020 by eencae Wrote up instead of down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flohrinho Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, eencae said: PIs can also be useful for toning up (or emphasising) a players PPM e.g. shoot less to discourage players who shoot from distance, hold position to stop defensive players with gets forward etc. PPM have a big effect on the game and are hard to take into account when importing tactics created (and tested) with other teams and players. The other players PPMs may have contributed to a positive test so with different teams may not get the same results. I don't think they actually can. I remember one of the mods on here saying that there is a hierarchy to instructions which if I remember correctly goes like this. Tactic Settings < PIs < PPMs. Meaning every setting in tactics or PIs that is contrary to the PPM of the player gets overwritten by the PPM. The same goes for PIs overwriting tactic instructions. For example if you have your entire team on get stuck in but set one of your players to "ease of tackles" he will ease of in the tackling department unless he has the PPM dives into tackles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAE82 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, Flohrinho said: I don't think they actually can. I remember one of the mods on here saying that there is a hierarchy to instructions which if I remember correctly goes like this. Tactic Settings < PIs < PPMs. Meaning every setting in tactics or PIs that is contrary to the PPM of the player gets overwritten by the PPM. The same goes for PIs overwriting tactic instructions. For example if you have your entire team on get stuck in but set one of your players to "ease of tackles" he will ease of in the tackling department unless he has the PPM dives into tackles. I’ve always taken it to be like that based on this post by Herne. He was a very good moderator and seemed very knowledgeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flohrinho Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, eencae said: I’ve always taken it to be like that based on this post by Herne. He was a very good moderator and seemed very knowledgeable. Oh that's interesting. I always thought they are a hard overwrite but good to know that they at least help mitigate the effect of "shoots from distance" for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 FM 20.4.1 HOLY GHOST FIRE 442 POS P103 EC CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1HOLYGHOSTFIRE442KnapPOSP103ECCC.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 16/05/2020 at 17:35, knap said: The tactic used took off the man marking and higher scoring than the MM tactic This is tactic used. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1KASHMIRKnap433MMP106FACCCELTIC227GOALS.fmf 45.5 kB · 445 downloads Rober used IR same squad and tactic Does this mean you have removed the "mark specific position" from the wingbacks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 @Augustin1979 The WB Marking was part of the original tactics nd were not removed. The PF MM are more part of the MM following guide of disrupting AI passing and would reduce attacking potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, knap said: @Augustin1979 The WB Marking was part of the original tactics nd were not removed. The PF MM are more part of the MM following guide of disrupting AI passing and would reduce attacking potential. That's what I thought, thanks for clearing it up for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 12:43, knap said: FM 20.3.0 TEA FOR ONE 4222 VOL2 P100 ALL CUPS !!FM20.3.0Teafor One4222VOL2P100ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 532 downloads Tried this one in 20.4.1 @knap? This one gave me personally the best result ever in FM-series. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 @Dreambuilder Any screenshots of results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: @Dreambuilder Any screenshots of results See my earlier post some month or two ago ;-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 @Dreambuilder Are you not in lockdown with only FM to play! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, knap said: @Dreambuilder Are you not in lockdown with only FM to play! Hehe kind of yeah But I use to switch to some other game when I get bored, back and forth.. Now I got the urge to FM again! Edited May 18, 2020 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.F.C Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Il y a 4 heures, knap a dit : FM 20.4.1 HOLY GHOST FIRE 442 POS P103 EC CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1HOLYGHOSTFIRE442KnapPOSP103ECCC.fmf 45 Ko · 40 downloads Better than BeWulf positive ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby1987 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 hours ago, knap said: FM 20.4.1 HOLY GHOST FIRE 442 POS P103 EC CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1HOLYGHOSTFIRE442KnapPOSP103ECCC.fmf 45.02 kB · 57 downloads This is good, very good. Half a season with Barca, smashed it Just simming a season with Mallorca (Predicted 20th), no transfers made, April now and currently 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby1987 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nabby1987 said: This is good, very good. Half a season with Barca, smashed it Just simming a season with Mallorca (Predicted 20th), no transfers made, April now and currently 4th 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Nabby You use Man Marking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby1987 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 No, used as it was posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmet12390 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I'm playing fm 19 19.3.6 is the original original but did not keep it in tactics here which one do you think is the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.F.C Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hey @knap What's your best tactic using inside forwards this year ? Thanks ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickZombie Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 6 hours ago, knap said: FM 20.4.1 HOLY GHOST FIRE 442 POS P103 EC CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1HOLYGHOSTFIRE442KnapPOSP103ECCC.fmf 45.02 kB · 97 downloads @knapwhats the theory behind holy ghost line of tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 @QuickZombie Very high tempo short passing (442 is based on Venom), works well with Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 FM 20.4.1 HOLY GHOST FIRE 4321 OXFORD P103 EC CC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM20.4.1HOLYGHOSTFIRE4321OXP103ECCC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 FM 20.4 and 20.3 me 2040 Tactics (includes FM 20.2 Beta tactics and FM 20.2.4) TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW http://bit.ly/knaptactics Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog FOR SUS AT END OF GAME TRY - REGROUP AND HOLD SHAPE ROBER GUIDE TO CLUB SET UP New_Game_2 (1).pdf 322.53 kB · 27 downloads ROBER GUIDE TO MARKING FULL GUIDE ON FM SCOUT FULL TRAINING INFPRMATION ON FM SCOUT INCLUDING HOW TO SET UP AND ATTRIBUTE IMPROVEMENTS RDF TWEAKS CROSSING CONSIDERATIONS MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE FRENCH UNDERDOG TESTS C SHOuTS Demand More when we are winning by 1 goal. Show Some Passion when we are back at score. Praise when winning 2 or more goals. -- MRr Hough recommended shouts Use shouts Show Some Passion and Demand More. Also concentrate if leading by a few goals 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 @Dreambuilder Looks a very good recommendation, based on a Juve swason as well, so added to recommended tactics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazz88 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) @knap do you think that holy ghost fire tactics can be used for subtop-underdog teams ? Edited May 18, 2020 by zazz88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 @zazz88 I consider Spurs sub top. Not tested with any under dog teams. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendixkunert2 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 works fine with underdog teams. Bournemouth media prediction 15th (just tanked the final 5 games) Currently testing with QPR to make sure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evo1987 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, bendixkunert2 said: works fine with underdog teams. Bournemouth media prediction 15th (just tanked the final 5 games) Currently testing with QPR to make sure. Which tactic ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendixkunert2 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Evo1987 said: Which tactic ?? The Holy Ghost fire 4321 above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafamat Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Tactics are more than awesome, as usual. The game kinda knows that and this year is nearly impossible winning a championship for me. I'm managing Roma and I'll attach literally any games that I didn't win. It's impossible to achieve anything serious with this insane number of ridicolous draws, I've been long acquainted with Fm and I know when you got FMed, but I never saw something like this. We have also some of the better penalty takers in the league, scoring merely 50% of those. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omteloletom Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rafamat said: Tactics are more than awesome, as usual. The game kinda knows that and this year is nearly impossible winning a championship for me. I'm managing Roma and I'll attach literally any games that I didn't win. It's impossible to achieve anything serious with this insane number of ridicolous draws, I've been long acquainted with Fm and I know when you got FMed, but I never saw something like this. We have also some of the better penalty takers in the league, scoring merely 50% of those. which tactic ? anyway, anyone here playing draft ? I am still looking for the best tactic in my mini draft league ... Edited May 19, 2020 by omteloletom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro871 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Hi @knap, What's your best 4231 tactic? Thanks On 18/05/2020 at 07:10, TA said: I won EFL 2nd season with Bournemouth - 2 Season saved 2 times But the game status says that you cheated and used In-Game Editor.... Edited May 19, 2020 by Nitro871 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidford Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Nitro871 said: Hi @knap, What's your best 4231 tactic? Thanks But the game status says that you cheated and used In-Game Editor.... Wow didn't even know there was such a thing and just checked it out, why would you do that?!? I took out Brexit before starting my game which I suppose some could think it was cheating. Anyway I'm using knaps 23221 formation with spurs and going well at end of September 6 wins 1 draw in league, conceded last minute equaliser away to Zenith in CL and just lost 2-1 to pool in league cup but I threw out my second string and still could of got something so not disappointed. Hopefully get through another few months tonight and will post up results but so far it's a cracking one for teams with only one striker Edited May 19, 2020 by sidford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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