knap Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 @stian Arsenal range is P90-P100. However it should play like the FM21 version, tempo passing role duties are the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, knap said: @stian Arsenal range is P90-P100. However it should play like the FM21 version, tempo passing role duties are the same @knapOkey, will try it! Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosejak Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Anyone else struggling for consistent tactics this year? Struggling to get a good home/subtop and away/underdog tactic that continues to work throughout a season! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 @bluenosejak Try the PREACHIN just posted by LV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosejak Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, knap said: @bluenosejak Try the PREACHIN just posted by LV. Cheers mate will give it ago. Would this be used for home or away or can it be used for both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVercetti Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, bluenosejak said: Cheers mate will give it ago. Would this be used for home or away or can it be used for both? It gives a full guide above 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosejak Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, LVercetti said: It gives a full guide above Cheers dude, will give it ago! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 ME 22.3 DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4132 P104 ME22.3DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnap4312P104.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nijak05 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 @knap regarding Newcastle and a home and away tactic. i have only played a couple of games but would kashmir 433 the 104p for home games And then the preachin hb for awaygames - or do you have better idea? Haven’t played since fm18 where I had a lot of succes with your Argus tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 @nijak05 Since FM 18 would say that you really need to be canny in the transfer market and bring in "FM" players. I used to mostly use Spurs for making tactics, but they are diabolical in FM 22. Tactics have not changed that much over the years and ARGUS tactics are still available and BEOWULF dates back to FM 16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreindeker Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Are there any tactics you've done this ME that are explicitly AWAY/Underdog ones? All 7 of the games I've lost so far this season have been away from home and the team absolutely annihilate teams using PARIS 4231/Preaching 451 at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 @Kreindeker Which team/what level? I assume PARIS Home PREACHIN Away. 2 Factors work against you when away 1)Home advantage and against a lesser team over confidence.. LVercetti has carried out a number of tests with lesser clubs and there are Brentford tests for underdogs. Also a tactic like GOODBYE 4141 may be useful away. Even with Lpool the draws and loses are all basically away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreindeker Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, knap said: @Kreindeker Which team/what level? I assume PARIS Home PREACHIN Away. 2 Factors work against you when away 1)Home advantage and against a lesser team over confidence.. LVercetti has carried out a number of tests with lesser clubs and there are Brentford tests for underdogs. Also a tactic like GOODBYE 4141 may be useful away. Even with Lpool the draws and loses are all basically away from home. One with Newcastle and one with Stockport, so both good teams within their own leagues and with players that fit the tactics, and yes usually that way around although if we concede a couple I usually reach for PARIS to try to fix it I wouldn't even ask normally but it's just such a drop off (to the point we're having 10 or more shots on target at home and then 1 or 2 away) that I assumed they'd changed the ME somehow And that does make sense, thank you. With regard to the overconfidence, is that something you can correct if you say "don't be complacent" or whatever in team talks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 @Kreindeker Over confidence is down to managing, which is why I preferred FMT. Do you handle press team talks and training yourself? Is this 2nd season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 @knapI am Newcastle half way through 3rd season and challenging with good young squad in champs league too have won prem last year. I need the 433 ? To keep with my strikers Lucca isak and sesko plus Anthony St max as back up . what would you say is your best 433 ? I'm not quite elite yet need champs league title and prem again for that . Little help ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 @marksmithlfc1234 The last posted KASHMIR 4123 is the best test league tested tactic. This indicates that you do need the right players to fit the roles. The 433 P101 may be better if you don't have the right players for roles. If you have a SS player and wingers then ECHOES 41212 If you haver strikers that can play in the AMR/L Position then PARIS and PREACHIN become options Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 KASHMIR 4123 Test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 7 часов назад, Kreindeker сказал: Are there any tactics you've done this ME that are explicitly AWAY/Underdog ones? All 7 of the games I've lost so far this season have been away from home and the team absolutely annihilate teams using PARIS 4231/Preaching 451 at home I used tons of tactics (not starting new saves, not testing tactics on favorites and underdogs, but just loading them into my save) and I think that in FM 22 in this ME the most effective tactics are narrow, with 3 ST or 1 AMC and 2 ST. With them, you will score as many goals as 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, but when playing in defense, they just turn off the opponent's effectiveness in attack by 50-70%. The best option for me is 3-4-1-2 with AMC and 2 ST. I claim to win Serie A with Parma immediately after winning Serie B after half the season without transfers. So you may to try 4-3-3 with DM and 3 ST, 3-4-3 with 3 ST, and 3-4-1-2. Edited January 13, 2022 by Dersturmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKorr Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Dersturmer said: I used tons of tactics (not starting new saves, not testing tactics on favorites and underdogs, but just loading them into my save) and I think that in FM 22 in this ME the most effective tactics are narrow, with 3 ST or 1 AMC and 2 ST. With them, you will score as many goals as 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, but when playing in defense, they just turn off the opponent's effectiveness in attack by 50-70%. The best option for me is 3-4-1-2 with AMC and 2 ST. I claim to win Serie A with Parma immediately after winning Serie B after half the season without transfers. So you may to try 4-3-3 with DM and 3 ST, 3-4-3 with 3 ST, and 3-4-1-2. I concur, the 3412 has been the best formation for me as well. A very simple trick I have found is to man mark the opposition's wingers with your wing backs and you can really shut them down. Knap's best tactic so far IMO has been the 3412BETA100P with the wide center backs and the man marking setting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonseller Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, GKorr said: I concur, the 3412 has been the best formation for me as well. A very simple trick I have found is to man mark the opposition's wingers with your wing backs and you can really shut them down. Knap's best tactic so far IMO has been the 3412BETA100P with the wide center backs and the man marking setting. I've had success with the 22.3 3412 with my underdog side, was wondering if anyone was using the old beta version with WCBs, how'd you get on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKorr Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, avonseller said: I've had success with the 22.3 3412 with my underdog side, was wondering if anyone was using the old beta version with WCBs, how'd you get on? I started a save with Fiorentina and I retired it after going undefeated for almost two seasons, needed a new challenge. These are some conclusions from that save: - ALWAYS play the games. Huge difference in results on holiday mode (much worse) - The man marking setting is broken good. Always mark the opposition wingers with your wing backs. If facing a 442 or similar, mark the MR/L, if facing a formation with WBs only, mark them. You really cut the opposition in two. - Kalulu as a WCB and Alvarez as a SS are insanely good. Especially Alvarez easily got avg ratings of 7.80+ as a SS. No idea why that broken - The WCBs created overloads constantly and it was easy to create crossing chances. - Tall and slow strikers work like a charm. Lucca was brought in a third striker and he ended up being my top goal scorer - With a good CB as a libero (Milenkovic in fiorentina) your defence becomes practically immune to passes over the top. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonseller Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, GKorr said: I started a save with Fiorentina and I retired it after going undefeated for almost two seasons, needed a new challenge. These are some conclusions from that save: - ALWAYS play the games. Huge difference in results on holiday mode (much worse) - The man marking setting is broken good. Always mark the opposition wingers with your wing backs. If facing a 442 or similar, mark the MR/L, if facing a formation with WBs only, mark them. You really cut the opposition in two. - Kalulu as a WCB and Alvarez as a SS are insanely good. Especially Alvarez easily got avg ratings of 7.80+ as a SS. No idea why that broken - The WCBs created overloads constantly and it was easy to create crossing chances. - Tall and slow strikers work like a charm. Lucca was brought in a third striker and he ended up being my top goal scorer - With a good CB as a libero (Milenkovic in fiorentina) your defence becomes practically immune to passes over the top. I used it in the beta, was a little bit leaky though my defense was slow back then so probably the reason. Maybe @knap can update the tactic now if possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @avonseller Current test with a Beta ARGUS 3412 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonseller Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, knap said: @avonseller Current test with a Beta ARGUS 3412 Looks like the WCB dream is still alive, CWBs are pretty hit and miss I think so maybe changing them to WBs could work better Edited January 14, 2022 by avonseller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 13 hours ago, GKorr said: I started a save with Fiorentina and I retired it after going undefeated for almost two seasons, needed a new challenge. These are some conclusions from that save: - ALWAYS play the games. Huge difference in results on holiday mode (much worse) - The man marking setting is broken good. Always mark the opposition wingers with your wing backs. If facing a 442 or similar, mark the MR/L, if facing a formation with WBs only, mark them. You really cut the opposition in two. - Kalulu as a WCB and Alvarez as a SS are insanely good. Especially Alvarez easily got avg ratings of 7.80+ as a SS. No idea why that broken - The WCBs created overloads constantly and it was easy to create crossing chances. - Tall and slow strikers work like a charm. Lucca was brought in a third striker and he ended up being my top goal scorer - With a good CB as a libero (Milenkovic in fiorentina) your defence becomes practically immune to passes over the top. What Alvarez mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 16 hours ago, knap said: @marksmithlfc1234 The last posted KASHMIR 4123 is the best test league tested tactic. This indicates that you do need the right players to fit the roles. The 433 P101 may be better if you don't have the right players for roles. If you have a SS player and wingers then ECHOES 41212 If you haver strikers that can play in the AMR/L Position then PARIS and PREACHIN become options Do you think i can use a top tier tactic now the elite ones like Kashmir433 with this squad ? at Newcastle ! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @marksmithlfc1234 Brentford test was good at P72 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, knap said: @marksmithlfc1234 Brentford test was good at P72 Ok will give it a go thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotsarikos Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 @knap Hi mate. Happy New Year. Let me ask in Kashmir 433 (P123) which mentality do you use? Because in the very attacking one I concede a lot of goals. Could you please advise how this could be handled against stronger and weaker teams? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon1904 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 17 horas atrás, GKorr disse: I started a save with Fiorentina and I retired it after going undefeated for almost two seasons, needed a new challenge. These are some conclusions from that save: - ALWAYS play the games. Huge difference in results on holiday mode (much worse) - The man marking setting is broken good. Always mark the opposition wingers with your wing backs. If facing a 442 or similar, mark the MR/L, if facing a formation with WBs only, mark them. You really cut the opposition in two. - Kalulu as a WCB and Alvarez as a SS are insanely good. Especially Alvarez easily got avg ratings of 7.80+ as a SS. No idea why that broken - The WCBs created overloads constantly and it was easy to create crossing chances. - Tall and slow strikers work like a charm. Lucca was brought in a third striker and he ended up being my top goal scorer - With a good CB as a libero (Milenkovic in fiorentina) your defence becomes practically immune to passes over the top. Whith beta argus ? do you use with positive or attacking mentality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @Kotsarikos Can use the post above by LVercetti in respect of PRACHIN 451. Basically Positive and add DM drop to SUS if necessary. There is a list of tweaks to go more defensive in OP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonseller Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 @knap any progress on the WCB tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKorr Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, gooders11 said: What Alvarez mate? Julian Alvarez from River Plate, a 5M signing 1 hour ago, demon1904 said: Whith beta argus ? do you use with positive or attacking mentality? I am referring to the one that was originally uploaded by Knap, with the attacking mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 This would be top 3 ATB using MU/Brentford test Last years tactic without tweaks ME22.3ME21.7ARGUSknap352THP85P230(89-76=165).fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @avonseller Just changed BPD for WCB based on above 352 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 @knap Hi. Which tactic is the best for Spurs at the moment?, tried 4123 Kashmir, i would say it works ok, but struggle against the best teams, even with some decent transfers in i am struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 ME 22.3 ARGUS 352 WCB P102 + P71 = P173 ME22.3ARGUSknap352WCBP102+71=173.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @stian The Spurs squad are terrible for FM. I would try and replace most of the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, knap said: @stian The Spurs squad are terrible for FM. I would try and replace most of the squad @knap Ok, i have bought some decent players. Any tips ? Or just try to make kashmir work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @stian You need to have Kane and 10 other quality transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, knap said: @stian You need to have Kane and 10 other quality transfers. @knap Ok then. Anyways, i would also like to try a championship team - you think the ME 22.3 ARGUS 352 WCB P102 + P71 = P173 will work there? Looks promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @stian Tactics should work in most leagues, but I can't really test that theory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, knap said: @stian Tactics should work in most leagues, but I can't really test that theory @knapOk, thanks. And last question. The Kashmir tactic, i downloaded the KashmirKnap433(123), that's the one that got you 99P with arsenal, and good tests with brentford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @stiale P99 Tactic. Base test as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 ME 22.3 ARGUS 3412 P88=P77=P165 ME22.3ARGUSknap3412P88+77=165.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Test Results are now sortable Thanks to the Prof Edited January 14, 2022 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 ME 22.3 ARGUS 343 P103-P65=P168 ME22.3ARGUSknap343P103-P65=P168.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 ME 22.3 ARGUS 343 F9 P95-P78=P173 ME22.3ARGUSknap343F9P95-P78=P173.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkobets Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, knap said: @stiale P99 Tactic. Base test as well is it that Very Attacking version? or where the link? thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 @rkobets I've added another link as the original appears to be corrupted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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