steve dewilde Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Knap, first thanks for all your great tactics. Apologizes in advance if already answered this kind of question but: Which tactics would you recommend for new man utd career save preferably a 4231 (Time or Beowulf?) and one more defensive (like a 41221 aka 433? or suggesting another one?) and finally who takes corners, still wingback for each side or best set piece taker? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 With MU I would use your preferred attacking formation. Taker will be set as part of routine if not I do not set them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoBet Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 hours ago, knap said: Use a tactic earlier than 19.2 19.1.5 for example...BUT defending set pieces for throw ins are exact the same as in 19.2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not seen many long throws issues when defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoBet Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 last question and i'll try to be more clear...i really appreciate your time In that defence structure i want to mark the player who recieve the short long throw.Particularly i want to bring more than one player to mark that throw in. Is there any suggestion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Second season at FCPorto, another year in great shape !! Great Knap, in the third season I will try the version without the F9 and use the AF. Edited January 8, 2019 by krugrockz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kelmi55 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, KoBet said: last question and i'll try to be more clear...i really appreciate your time In that defence structure i want to mark the player who recieve the short long throw.Particularly i want to bring more than one player to mark that throw in. Is there any suggestion? You can't do anything to defend against it. It is a match engine problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoBet Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, kelmi55 said: You can't do anything to defend against it. It is a match engine problem. However,it's not happening against all teams. So this is why im digging into that. For sure it's a match engine but there is a counter for this,an option,something... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Is this against AI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelmi55 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KoBet said: However,it's not happening against all teams. So this is why im digging into that. For sure it's a match engine but there is a counter for this,an option,something... My guess would be that the set-play needs to be played at exact location. If you can't prevent conceding throw in from that dangerous position you are screwed. AI does not use this throw in setup. Edited January 8, 2019 by kelmi55 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoBet Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, knap said: Is this against AI? against AI NOT...against other player in a lan-game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 They are using the same long throw set up as the tactic you are using. Never been reported as issue with other online players. You can try closing down corner in the corner set up, or man mark in throw in set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelmi55 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, KoBet said: against AI NOT...against other player in a lan-game If playing with friends, make an agreement to not to use it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoBet Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, knap said: They are using the same long throw set up as the tactic you are using. Never been reported as issue with other online players. You can try closing down corner in the corner set up, or man mark in throw in set up. i tried "mark man" instruction,but still noone marked that throw in!!! haha Nevermind...thanks for your time. keep up the good work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 If they are using short corner set up then use the close down Throw ins I cannot see any way to man mark the free players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelmi55 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, knap said: If they are using short corner set up then use the close down Throw ins I cannot see any way to man mark the free players. We have tried and there is nothing to do against the throw in setup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimusprimal82 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just posted this on the Discord so sorry to anyone who lurks in both zones for having to read my waffle twice - you may have spotted there are one or two Knap tactic threads so you may spot this in one or two others just to spread the love and help prevent people chewing their dogs face off having conceded yet another late goal! "Anyone using Knap's tactics with the later corner routines may want to bear this in mind, especially so when setting up an SUS as it's far more prevalent later in the game when the AI is going gung-ho. Been studying more and more how I concede goals - lots are direct free kicks, far too many worldy strikers, but otherwise I get alot of 2 on 1's, may of which are coming from my own set pieces it turns out; My guy misses his header unsurprisingly, ball breaks and notice AI has 3 guys up top against just ONE of my guys - glimmer of hope that maybe it'll be flagged as offside; Ruthlessly irritating AI knows what it's doing though - I'd argue he's interfering with play as a 2 on 1 but referees i guess! Rest is inevitable; Note that this example happened with mentality set to very defensive and all my SUS options turned on. Done some testing and it's consistent across mentalities and with different tactics. Doesn't always happen ofc - an ultra defensive AI is never leaving 3 attackers up the pitch, they don't seem to try it as much if you're multiple goals ahead either, but be wary and maybe - if leading - think about swapping your attacking corner routines for something more defensive. Haven't observed it with throws as yet, nor have I tried it with a top level team so maybe doesn't happen as much with them (although possibly they'd more ruthlessly exploit it?). Hope it helps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Half of the third season... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 FM 19.2.1 Tested with Spurs and Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM P109 Lpool P102 Spurs !FM19.2.1BEOWULF4231THKnapP109THP102.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Champions to 7 games of the end ... incredible third season, season made with the option, greater rotation in all games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Il y a 2 heures, knap a dit : FM 19.2.1 Tested with Spurs and Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM P109 Lpool P102 Spurs !FM19.2.1BEOWULF4231THKnapP109THP102.fmf What is TH? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyboadi Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, krugrockz said: Champions to 7 games of the end ... incredible third season, season made with the option, greater rotation in all games. impressive. which tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 31 minutos atrás, heyboadi disse: impressionante. qual tática? With this friend ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 End of the season ... incredible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) For you what is the best 4231 tactic you have created, or do you have a table of your all tactics? Thank you Edited January 11, 2019 by krugrockz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Not updated it recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Thanks Knap, but do you have a website where you can see the updates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 I was using MR L Forum but has stopped working. Have you joined MR L Discord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 No, can you give me access? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) FM 19.2 From Top dog to Under dog ARGUS Press 352 P105 Sub TIME343 Press P105BEOWULF Press 4231 P108 BEOWULF 4231 TH P109 TH P102 BEOWULF 4231 STD DL P102BEOWULF Press 424 P106 BEOWULF 424 IF Press P105 BEOWULF 442WF9 P108BEOWULF 442w P105 ARGUS 3421 IF P105 sub ARGUS 451 p110 sub ARGUS 41131 P108 ALL CUPS ROUTE 66 442 P106 sub STARGAZING Press P107 DARK SIDE 4231 P102 DARK SIDE 4411 P103 DARK SIDE 451 Positive P101 MU 07/08 442 P103BLUE MATTER Press 433 P109 sub + underBLUE MATTER Press 4312 p104 BLUE MATTER 4321 P109 ALL CUPS BLUE MATTER 4321 CF P108 ALL CUPS WOF 343 Press P103 ALLCUPS GOODBYE 3412 P103MIDSOMER Press 442 P104 ALL CUPS sub underBEOWULF Press 451 P100 ALL CUPS sub underMIDSOMER Press 4411 P105 ALL CUPS BEOWULF 442 IW STD DL P107 ALL CUPS BEOWULF AF P106 BEOWULF 442 PF P107 BEOWULF 442 PF P108 ALL CUPS BEOWULF 424 P112 ALL CUPS BEOWULF 4420 P112 ALL CUPS BEOWULF DEEP SICILIAN P105 BEOWULF DEEP SICILIAN STD DL P106 SICILIAN DEFENCE 442 DM P103 under WARPIGS 4312 P109 BEOWULF Press 4231 DM P107 BEOWULF 442 F9 P109 BEOWULF 442 IW P111 ALL CUPS BEOWULF 4411 IW P107 BEOWULF 4411 P105 TIME 4240 Positive P103 TIME 424 Press P107 TIME 3421 Press P103 TIME 4321 P108 ALL CUPS TIME 4231 Press P107 TIME 4231Positive P108 TIME 4231 Press DLPD P101 TIME 343 IF P105 ALL CUPS TIME 451 P103 under TIME 442 P110 under TIME 4411 P110 under VOLANTE 42211 P109 VOLANTE 4222 P110 under VOLANTE MEZ Press P103 under VOLANTE BBM Press P100 under BEOWULF 4411 NEWCASTLE P92 under PILGRIMAGE Flat 451 P105 PILGRIMAGE 451 P105 underVOLANTE Anchor 424 P105 underPILGRIMAGE VOLANTE 3403 P99 under Edited January 11, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 I will need to edit list for latest tactics. I will PM invitation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugrockz Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Thank you brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 PM sent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBP87 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, knap said: PM sent any chance you can send me an invite too Knap please? Edited January 12, 2019 by CBP87 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 https://discord.gg/WD2Ys3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemanja2306 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Knap, I'm think about starting a new save with Sevilla in Spain. Now, I was thinking about Beowulf 4231 Press for home/easy games and TIME 4231 Positive for away or more difficult games with maybe Beowulf 424 112P when I need a goal. Would this work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 You can try that combination. Be aware of the potential of the 424 as somebody tested the under dog capabilities, expected finish 18th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch74 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, nemanja2306 said: Knap, I'm think about starting a new save with Sevilla in Spain. Now, I was thinking about Beowulf 4231 Press for home/easy games and TIME 4231 Positive for away or more difficult games with maybe Beowulf 424 112P when I need a goal. Would this work? I use Beowulf 4321 press with Ajax both home and away. Maybe sometimes in tougher games I play the DLP as a defensive instead of support, but otherwise no changes. Granted, Spain is a harder league than Holland but I still managed comfortable away wins at PSV and Feyenoord with this formation. Also won big games at Bayern, Man City in the CL without changing the tactic, so worth a try... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg.aramis Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Could you guys test this tweak and let me know if it works for as it's been working wonderful for me? On the !FM19.2.1TIMEKnap4231PositiveP108.fmf change AM to Trequartista role and Striker to a F9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondCannon Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) For the tactic !FM19.2.1BEOWULFKnap 4231 P108.fmf I've used it with false 9 with great success however has anyone tried it with the complete forward role instead? Does anyone think it could be a viable option? Edited January 13, 2019 by DiamondCannon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutinio Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Hey knap wichi ar the best tactic for Fm 2019.1.1 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 There was a BEOWULF P110 for 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 is there any plans for a new 451?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilNUFC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 who takes corners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Either in routine or not set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandajoe Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Hi Knapp First time poster. It must get really boring responding to repeat questions and I want to give you credit for your engagement with your fans! I've read the entire thread and a few others and i'm really struggling to keep up with current best tactics in the current version of the game and where to find them. I'm playing a multiplayer game as Fulham, default squads with no first summer window. What would you recommend? Really want to try a SV and i notice not many of your tactics feature a TM (to make the most of Mitrovic). Cheers in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 On the basis somebody has won league 1st season with Fulham, then I would recommend that tactic. I tend to ignore roles for players and look at positions. TMs attract the ball and makes tactics too reliant on one player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicdrdave Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 12:07, knap said: https://discord.gg/WD2Ys3 Hi Knap, Any chance of a new link (This one has a expired). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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