Football Manager 2020 Feedback Thread

[Tyburn]

7 hours ago, Sanel said:

Because it's easy to create a ccc and the calculating of ccc's has always been broken, s.a. a goalkeeper that punches the ball back to a forward is seen as a ccc. Finishing however is beyond broken on every level, this is seen when Messi scores 20 goals a season as the AI doesn't do a good job at all at creating ccc's compared to the human player. It's a complicated mess. All of this doesn't replicate reality and makes the game very dull and boring.

This is relative, having a great time doesn't mean others are having it too. In the last two years the ME forces you to play a certain playstyle with certain instructions to achieve stable results. 

By the way you are explaining this all I wonder which team you play, because it seems like you don't play a lot and don't pay attention to others things around the game. See, most people who complain are people that like to invest time in FM to play a certain way they want and make a powerhouse out of a small club. Seeing the same attacks over and over again and seeing the same goals over and over because 1v1 are flawed is just boring to play for like 2-3 weeks. The last time I played was around new years and I didn't feel any satisfaction in what I was doing at all. Even testing out certain instructions to make it more enjoyable to watch didn't help as well, it gives the feeling that most instructions don't matter. 

By saying this I'm really looking forward to the next patch as I'd like to play some more FM during the spring, we will see..

I’ve stated how I’m playing the game in previous posts. I play for 6-8 hrs every other night in a network game. A journeyman career. Started at Nancy, Villa now Napoli. I’ve been playing since CM00/01. This should actually make no difference to the ME or my tactics, or my observations.

In FM19 I took Hampton season after season straight to winning the Champions League. This I grant you, as amusing as it was, was rather boring. Although 1v1 misses were not so prevalent last year. Which is the topic we’re discussing. I played the same way as everyone else last year, attacking, pressing, high lines, off side trap etc etc. I played, what I then realised from coming online, an OP 442 tactic.

In Fm20, for me, I haven’t been able to replicate this tactic effectively. I have however created a counter based tactic that, as I’ve said over and over again, minimises the issue of my ST’s constantly missing 1v1’s. Not just ccc’s. 1v1’s specifically.

The points you’ve raised I do not doubt. Messi only scoring 20 goals a season IS unrealistic. FM has always had elements to it that are just so hard to get right. But the fact FM. DOES get so much right and immersive and realistic is why we all love it so much and plough hours and hours into it. It’s because it gets so much right that when something is off it glares like the sun.

I’m sorry you’re not feeling it this year. I’ve only been trying to offer an insight into a problem people are facing and how it can, to a certain extent, be mitigated.

[Tyburn]

3 minutes ago, Svenc said:

Well, the game certainly makes a distinction, or tries to. E.g. not all 1vs1 are equal opportunity (or should be). We may have to do that distinction also to get to the root cause of things. There may be 1vs1 that are "bugged", whilst others less so. This has happened ca. FM 11ish in the past. The main coder upon researching had acknowledged and agreed that the keeper reach amonst other things from central assists (through balls bang throug the middle) was too large, which resulted in too many 1vs1s of that type being saved.

If you want to test that the game makes a distinction (and it does try to), do the following. Pick a side, line it up like this: Keeper -- LB -- LM  -- AML AMC AMC AMC AMR -- FWD FWD FWD. Give them all an attack Duty, tell every Player in the individual instructions to specifically man mark one of the opposition CBs.  This is nonsenical, of course.   But whilst it will produce lots of one on ones in actually big time space. The conversion ratio of those seems to hover around the 50% mark longer term over dozens of attempts. 

This, is, very interesting! Haha. How would you possibly ever get to a point to try something like this!? It’s a pity the ME creates these scenarios. Well, SHOWS us these scenarios. It just gives a false sense that 1v1’s are constantly being missed, when in fact it’s all about the quality of these 1v1’s. If the game could simply not show us these “bugged” 1v1’s, as much as it does, then perhaps people wouldn’t be getting so wound up about it all. 

This, I believe, must be what SI have acknowledged and be working on. 

I think in realising that this is possibly the issue however would hopefully dampen some of the frustrations, and perhaps enable us to adapt to it.

Very insightful.

[kosecki99]

so .... you who sincerely recommend me? .... to start a new game or wait for a new update. Is that having to wait for March for an update .....

Thanks....

[Freakiie]

My first golden generation this FM, still doesn't look quite as impressive as you'd think when you hear "Golden Generation".

[Filrom]

When will the 20.3 update be? I can’t play this "s..."!

[CaptainPlanet]

My staff settings are set for them to do opposition instructions, but when I start games there aren't any ever set and I either have to set them automatically or click on "ask assistant"

[KUBI]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb CaptainPlanet:

My staff settings are set for them to do opposition instructions, but when I start games there aren't any ever set and I either have to set them automatically or click on "ask assistant"

Please post this in the bugs forum.

[roykela]

3 minutes ago, CaptainPlanet said:

My staff settings are set for them to do opposition instructions, but when I start games there aren't any ever set and I either have to set them automatically or click on "ask assistant"

 

[JordanMilly]

1 hour ago, Freakiie said:

My first golden generation this FM, still doesn't look quite as impressive as you'd think when you hear "Golden Generation".

It depends on what team you're playing as, to be fair, given that this seems to be indicating that 3 of your youth could become solid players for the team, and another 3 could become half-decent rotational/back-up options.

[Freakiie]

17 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

It depends on what team you're playing as, to be fair, given that this seems to be indicating that 3 of your youth could become solid players for the team, and another 3 could become half-decent rotational/back-up options.

That's with first season PSV, where you already have a whole bunch of 4.5/5* rated talents in the youth. So seeing this being rated as a golden generation when their potential is suggested to be worse than what's already running around in your youth squad is a bit weird.

[Glen_Runciter]

I have to learn how to put this game down. All the yellow lines are headers that missed the goal.

Sure, it's Vanarama Regional, but from a player (#9) with Strength 12, Jumping Reach 14, and all the other relevant attributes around 10, you would expect some headers at least hitting the goal every once in a while.

 

edit: sorry, I didn't mean ALL of them were headers, that one from #7 outside the box obviously wasn't for example, but my target man won 17/19 headers, and most of them were lobbed over the goal.
He scored his one goal with his foot, ofc.

Edited February 2, 2020 by Glen_Runciter

[BarryTheLarry]

Can't believe I paid £40 for a crossing simulator.

[jc577]

I know SI are working hard on improving certain aspects of the ME, but I am so disappointed in the state of the game as it is. From my experience, the Beta is 90% similar to the FM19 ME which was one of the most boring editions I’ve played. I’m seeing a plethora of blocked cross and shots, teams defending ultra narrow etc. It’s so difficult to find space and play through the centre, but even on the odd occasion that you do, the finish is usually woeful. 
 

The official ME for FM2020 isn’t much better either. The only way I can describe it is pure chaos. I know long balls have been mentioned a million times on here but man they are SO frustrating. They become even more infuriating when defenders don’t mark properly, and no matter what roles/instructions you change, getting left 2v2 is a massive probability. Unfortunately, team instructions which are used to replicate a certain style of play are virtually redundant as the ME doesn’t seem to acknowledge them.

Genuinely, I have never been more disappointed with Football Manager. It is a game that I, and many others, love dearly but it’s currently an embarrassment to its former prestige. I feel as if I’ve paid £40 for an incomplete product, and I don’t know if it ever will be. 

[Tiger666]

19 hours ago, Tiger666 said:

Far too many set piece goals. Started a new season and a full half of the goals in my games so far have been from set pieces. Just tonked Liverpool 6-1 which I'd normally be delighted with as it shows I know what I'm doing and have built a great tactic but 4 of the goals were from corners. It cheapens it.

Very next game

 

[FMSD0]

I had some positive things to say about the beta a few weeks ago, however the negatives overweigh them now by far. I'm done for now as I don't really feel in control of the game anymore. My impression is that this game doesn't make a lot of sense at all once random stuff kicks in, so I have to take a few steps back now. No one should be satisfied with the current state as improvement is badly needed. 

[Nicenoise]

How much time, i, beeing a customer, supposed to wait till you fix 1x1? 

Whom should i contact if i want a refund?

Edited February 2, 2020 by Nicenoise

[anagain]

What defines where the widgets are on the match screen pitch view?

I have a number of widgets on my pitch and they annoyingly tend to move about. Some overlap, and I have wondered if that is why they move. I play on 110% zoom so it's a case of overlapping some for what I want.

Anyone recommend the best way to get them to stick? Can I recommend that SI introduce some save option for widget placing?

[Novem9]

I think scout's report about next opposite team could be more usability if you turn this for 180 degrees.

I mean for now it looks like 

but after turn its better usability to coordinate this for tactic window

Better to see your LB and opposite RW, your LW and opposite RB, etc

 

[Tiger666]

1 hour ago, anagain said:

What defines where the widgets are on the match screen pitch view?

I have a number of widgets on my pitch and they annoyingly tend to move about. Some overlap, and I have wondered if that is why they move. I play on 110% zoom so it's a case of overlapping some for what I want.

Anyone recommend the best way to get them to stick? Can I recommend that SI introduce some save option for widget placing?

It's been in the game for years. I reported it (again) two months ago. It never received a response.

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Tiger666

[RobertPage]

In terms of questions and answers in the press conference, this one is probably the worst. 

[ExeChris]

So I've been playing the Beta virtually since it came out, and while the 1 on 1s seem a bit better, there isn't a massive improvement.  Truth is I'm just a bit bored with it now and with my 20 plus of playing it off and on, with my virtual addiction for the past 7-8 years (there I've admitted it) that is really saying something.

And it isn't just to do with the fact that I let a FIVE goal lead slip to draw in my last game.  Yes, 5-0 up after 62 minutes and drew 5-5.

The other team didn't (noticeably) change formation or do anything different or bring on anyone who turned the game, they just started looking like they would score with every attack.  It's the randomness that gets me; I don't expect every game to be the same, but if I play really well and dominate against a mid-table 4-2-3-1 team, why would I look toothless against a similar quality side a week later when we are both playing the same systems?

Is it because I didn't do a certain shout at a certain time?  Who knows, but now I'm worried that I should be doing shouts, but only a couple of them seem to, I was going to say effect the players, but give the "green" reaction, as usually there is no noticeable change in performance.

It's just the uncontrollable aspect of it all.  Whatever tactics I dream up, the passages of play seem very similar.  It's incredibly rare to see a chance created or a goal and say 'yes, that's how I wanted them to work it'.  It's generally a ball through to my pacey striker who can score a decent amount of 1 on 1s.

And how much into the minutiae do I need to go?  I mean I see these guys on YouTube saying "Oh I couldn't play him in this position as his Bravery is only 12 so I'll play this player as his is 14"?  Perhaps this isn't the game for me any more, or perhaps I need to play FMT(?), as I don't see the appeal of spending hours setting up a tactic and picking a team when I have to consider ten different attributes for each position, plus how the positions interact with each other, plus the oppositions form, tactical set up and mentality, plus my mentality, plus weather conditions, plus morale (does any one else use any other team talk than "Have Faith"?), plus fitness levels etc etc.  When do we say FM has become too complicated?  Could it have become too complicated already?

I'm in my late 40s, have a FT job plus overtime, a wife and 2 teenage kids who seal themselves in their rooms as long as the WiFi is working.  I don't need to spend (I nearly typed waste) hours of my downtime on a game that I appear to have very little control over.  Maybe my two penneth has turned into more like four or five penneth, and this has turned into a general grumble about my life rather than FM, but whether I like it or not, FM is a major part of my life and it is frustrating to say the least.  It appears I have as much control over the direction of this post as I do the tactics of my team and I apologise for that, but in a nutshell, if I win I want to feel responsible, at the moment I don't.  When the 5th goal went in against me earlier in the 89th minute I just shrugged and wondered if we could hold out for a point.  Years ago I would have raged, but now I feel like it was just going to happen whatever.  

Apologies for the length of this post and it's disappearing off in odd directions, I'm off to subject myself to 3 hours more FM, early start tomorrow for work...

[glenjamin]

31 minutes ago, RobertPage said:

In terms of questions and answers in the press conference, this one is probably the worst. 

It's been asked in every edition since press conferences began and each time I've refused to comment. Stupid question that should be removed or changed. 

[Freakiie]

25 minutes ago, RobertPage said:

In terms of questions and answers in the press conference, this one is probably the worst. 

Not sure, I've seen some really terrible questions regarding overall team performance.

- Your team is doing way better than expected, but how sad are you about missing out on the title? Well I don't think we ever were in a position to challenge for the title, nor was my team that was predicted to finish 8th supposed to be challenging for the title so.... iunno, I'm actually really, really happy that we're second place?

Or the classic 6 games into the season, 1 point behind CL places with you having a game in hand "How do you feel about your team under performing, seeing how you are not challenging for CL qualification?"

The one that really irks me though, is the question regarding cup draws where the game always compares your reputation to the reputation of the team(s) drawn and just goes "Oh your rep is higher, so this is an easy draw!" or vice versa. What you drew another team from the top division in the second round of the cup, while you could've drawn some fourth division club? Well your rep is higher, so you must be really happy with this easy draw right! It just irks me that I know why the game does this and that you could easily have it make sense by looking at the avg reputation or something, but no, for years now you can get drawn into the CL group of death only to have the press con casually go "oh this group looks easy, you must be happy!"

[autohoratio]

2 hours ago, anagain said:

What defines where the widgets are on the match screen pitch view?

I have a number of widgets on my pitch and they annoyingly tend to move about. Some overlap, and I have wondered if that is why they move. I play on 110% zoom so it's a case of overlapping some for what I want.

Anyone recommend the best way to get them to stick? Can I recommend that SI introduce some save option for widget placing?

I reported this bug in FM19 and again for this year's version, I think it was in FM18 as well. Really annoying, and I haven't had a response from SI about it either.

[autohoratio]

52 minutes ago, RobertPage said:

In terms of questions and answers in the press conference, this one is probably the worst. 

I still have no idea what the "We're lead to believe you're more of a suit-and-tie manager than a tracksuit manager favouring a more cerebral approach" question you get at the first press conference of the savegame is supposed to mean...

[JordanMilly]

@iMan - Please don't post false information to a genuine question.

@Nicenoise - The latest statement from staff is that they're not looking to roll out an update to the beta patch, but instead a full patch, and that will be done when it is ready. Whilst there is usually a patch at the beginning of March after all of the transfers in the latest window have concluded (since some countries have an open window through to the end of February), SI have not said that there won't be a patch before then.

 

[Novem9]

1 час назад, glenjamin сказал:

It's been asked in every edition since press conferences began and each time I've refused to comment. Stupid question that should be removed or changed. 

I more tired about question about some player from my team and my style. Yeah you added improved tactical-style feature I got it, but its not a good idea to spam by question for pay customer's attention like this
Sometimes there are happening THREE questions in a row about THREE players and my style in one prematch session. I think this is very rarely question IRL.

Btw if SI have a crisis of ideas for media questions so ask us (community members) and people give you some good questions with answers

Edited February 2, 2020 by Novem9

[Glen_Runciter]

You are all wrong, the worst question is without a doubt is when you sign a player on trial, and they ask you if you're gonna keep him.
Every. Time.

[Novem9]

1 минуту назад, Glen_Runciter сказал:

You are all wrong, the worst question is without a doubt is when you sign a player on trial, and they ask you if you're gonna keep him.
Every. Time.

Wait wait what about you need to use substitution but player which you want to change scored 2 goals and you dont want to change him just because you dont want to see this question about hat-trick  

[Braincomplexa]

Screen flow still doesn't work as intended when choosing visit "at completion", how many years has it been? Almost as if this feature has been forgotten, a pity because it can add so much immersion to the game for me. 

[Maldini's Heir]

This has to be the most crushing game I have ever played.

Nearly every thing that happens in the game ends in disappointment. There's just not joy to be found anywhere.

As the ball drops to Chiesa at the back post and there's a goal mouth scramble, will I get a last minute winner?

No chance. I'll hit the post. I knew before it even happened. That would be a joyful moment. Games must end in disappointment.

Losing 2:0 to Lazio break forward and 1 v 1 and......Cutrone hits the post and Lazio counter to break me with a 3:0.

It's your tactics! (that made my player miss an open goal and hit the post).

After a crushing series of games where my team has missed countless chances, drawing 0:0 or losing when I've had more shots, I then play some small team in the Champions League. 

36 shots on goal - what could've been an enjoyable 5:0 win (just for the laugh you know, joy) - ends in a frustrating 1:0. I won. But who wants to win 1:0 having had 36 shots on goal?

In fact who wants to spend their time watching their team miss chance after chance. There is another way you know. Just don't have the team create chances. Same outcome. Same difficulty. Hmm question. It must be something to do with my tactics. But there's nothing to learn from missing 35 chances. 

Who wants to play a game that always ends in disappointment, even if you win?

I nearly made it through a season without restarts but as I got towards the end of my second season, 10 points clear at the top, the game thought - Do you know what would be a fun thing to experience?  The crushing disappointment that Kevin Keegan felt in 95/96. Yes, I'd pay to experience that. So the points just start dropping off. The last minute equalisers, the back to back "one of those days" - until the game had chipped away at my lead and my hope.

REEEEEEEESSSSSTAAAAARRRRTTTT and the pain goes away. If only Keegan could've done that.

Without fail a re-start leads to a different result. I think of the 50 or so games I've re-started, I've won something like 45 immediately after re-starting. 

It seems in fact every game I lose it because of "incidents" - the missed open goal, the mistake at the back.....

Actually here's a thing - BTW the first part is a rant that doesn't require any explanation, this is a genuine question....here I'll include a nice sub-heading so people can go straight to this question:

^^^^^^
RANT

˅˅˅˅˅˅

QUESTION

Does anyone notice that the computer team generally has a completely different experience to the human team?

There's all sorts of incidents that occur that only impact the human.

For example:

• the auld throw in leading to counter attack shtick, seems to overwhelmingly favour the CPU - it's always my players throwing the ball to the CPU never the other way round;
• the CPU gets by far and way the most "lucky breaks" benefiting from the human hitting the post, having goals cleared off the line, having disallowed goals, conceding last minute goals (v last minute misses from the human), 5 shots = 5 goals/35 shots = 1 goal etc,   
• twice I have had my GK keeper tackled, but I have never tackled the CPU computer - never experienced that joy (like so many others).

I signed Zaniolo after he scored 12 goals for Roma. Of course he's only scored 1 goal for me! Of course.

My wife asked me why do I bother?

She cuts to the core of me. 

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Maldini's Heir

[Bakiano]

I have lost count on how many times I gave up playing this FM and start again, thinking I just need a little tweak and it will be better. But it doesn't get better! It is always the same. In public beta all I see are set pieces. Watching on extended mode and 80% of highlights are set pieces. 

 

And oh my God, those beatiful goals from outside the box. Whenever I see, player has a little open space to shoot, I know the result. It is a wonder goal. Players can't score from 1 on 1 chance with the GK, but when  there is a volley or half volley shot, that's 99% a goal. 

It's strange that Miles doesn't tweet stats how many players are playing FM in exact moment anymore.

And for the end,  blocked crosses. That was thing from FM19 as I recall and here we are again. Wide player has space, has time, has players in the box and what he does in that situation? He waits the defender so he can make a blocked cross or he just pass a backward pass.

 

Cheers!

[Lucas]

@Lord Rowell I've removed your post as its not adding anything to the thread and is antagonising in nature. If you have any feedback on the game it's welcome in the thread, pot shot moans at members and mods definitely not.

[Lord Rowell]

6 minutes ago, Lucas said:

@Lord Rowell I've removed your post as its not adding anything to the thread and is antagonising in nature. If you have any feedback on the game it's welcome in the thread, pot shot moans at members and mods definitely not.

That's up to you. There were no complaints about members at all in my post and I'm very disappointed you misrepresent in this way. 

[Lucas]

4 minutes ago, Lord Rowell said:

That's up to you. There were no complaints about members at all in my post and I'm very disappointed you misrepresent in this way. 

It's not misrepresenting, you were criticising moderation which is trying to keep the thread on topic. Which again, you're failing to do and haven't added anything with regard to feedback on the game. 

If you have any, as I said that's welcome in the thread.

Thanks.

[Maldini's Heir]

49 minutes ago, Bakiano said:

And oh my God, those beatiful goals from outside the box. Whenever I see, player has a little open space to shoot, I know the result. It is a wonder goal. Players can't score from 1 on 1 chance with the GK, but when  there is a volley or half volley shot, that's 99% a goal. 

It really takes some talent to kill all joy of wonder goals.

Having seen your striker miss the simplest 1v1 and you then see your midfielder scores a volley from 35 yards for the 6th time of the season.....and you just shrug your shoulders in despair.... 

[Lord Rowell]

3 minutes ago, Lucas said:

It's not misrepresenting, you were criticising moderation which is trying to keep the thread on topic. Which again, you're failing to do and haven't added anything with regard to feedback on the game. 

If you have any, as I said that's welcome in the thread.

Thanks.

I did criticise moderation you're right. Your response implied I criticised members which is untrue, in fact I praised the discussion by members. 

As aforementioned, up to you if you want to delete it's your forum. Just wasn't happy about the implicaion re members. 

Happy to leave it at that.

[dangngo6]

3 hours ago, Bakiano said:

I have lost count on how many times I gave up playing this FM and start again, thinking I just need a little tweak and it will be better. But it doesn't get better! It is always the same. In public beta all I see are set pieces. Watching on extended mode and 80% of highlights are set pieces. 

 

And oh my God, those beatiful goals from outside the box. Whenever I see, player has a little open space to shoot, I know the result. It is a wonder goal. Players can't score from 1 on 1 chance with the GK, but when  there is a volley or half volley shot, that's 99% a goal. 

It's strange that Miles doesn't tweet stats how many players are playing FM in exact moment anymore.

And for the end,  blocked crosses. That was thing from FM19 as I recall and here we are again. Wide player has space, has time, has players in the box and what he does in that situation? He waits the defender so he can make a blocked cross or he just pass a backward pass.

 

Cheers!

see, they try to fix it but just make it worse, now fm 2019 flashback lol. Just change the engine already please

[Tyburn]

10 hours ago, Maldini's Heir said:

This has to be the most crushing game I have ever played.

Nearly every thing that happens in the game ends in disappointment. There's just not joy to be found anywhere.

As the ball drops to Chiesa at the back post and there's a goal mouth scramble, will I get a last minute winner?

No chance. I'll hit the post. I knew before it even happened. That would be a joyful moment. Games must end in disappointment.

Losing 2:0 to Lazio break forward and 1 v 1 and......Cutrone hits the post and Lazio counter to break me with a 3:0.

It's your tactics! (that made my player miss an open goal and hit the post).

After a crushing series of games where my team has missed countless chances, drawing 0:0 or losing when I've had more shots, I then play some small team in the Champions League. 

36 shots on goal - what could've been an enjoyable 5:0 win (just for the laugh you know, joy) - ends in a frustrating 1:0. I won. But who wants to win 1:0 having had 36 shots on goal?

In fact who wants to spend their time watching their team miss chance after chance. There is another way you know. Just don't have the team create chances. Same outcome. Same difficulty. Hmm question. It must be something to do with my tactics. But there's nothing to learn from missing 35 chances. 

Who wants to play a game that always ends in disappointment, even if you win?

I nearly made it through a season without restarts but as I got towards the end of my second season, 10 points clear at the top, the game thought - Do you know what would be a fun thing to experience?  The crushing disappointment that Kevin Keegan felt in 95/96. Yes, I'd pay to experience that. So the points just start dropping off. The last minute equalisers, the back to back "one of those days" - until the game had chipped away at my lead and my hope.

REEEEEEEESSSSSTAAAAARRRRTTTT and the pain goes away. If only Keegan could've done that.

Without fail a re-start leads to a different result. I think of the 50 or so games I've re-started, I've won something like 45 immediately after re-starting. 

It seems in fact every game I lose it because of "incidents" - the missed open goal, the mistake at the back.....

Actually here's a thing - BTW the first part is a rant that doesn't require any explanation, this is a genuine question....here I'll include a nice sub-heading so people can go straight to this question:

^^^^^^
RANT

˅˅˅˅˅˅

QUESTION

Does anyone notice that the computer team generally has a completely different experience to the human team?

There's all sorts of incidents that occur that only impact the human.

For example:

• the auld throw in leading to counter attack shtick, seems to overwhelmingly favour the CPU - it's always my players throwing the ball to the CPU never the other way round;
• the CPU gets by far and way the most "lucky breaks" benefiting from the human hitting the post, having goals cleared off the line, having disallowed goals, conceding last minute goals (v last minute misses from the human), 5 shots = 5 goals/35 shots = 1 goal etc,   
• twice I have had my GK keeper tackled, but I have never tackled the CPU computer - never experienced that joy (like so many others).

I signed Zaniolo after he scored 12 goals for Roma. Of course he's only scored 1 goal for me! Of course.

My wife asked me why do I bother?

She cuts to the core of me. 

 

It’s your tactics

[Steve8066]

On 30/01/2020 at 00:30, Nick_CB said:

Look

 

EDIT: Can someone please tell me if this is a bug?

on the 2nd pic, it looks like you have it set to not show the matches. On the right next to the season date etc. where is the filter button which allows you to change this? is it removed because of 1 of your other responsibility settings?

[Maldini's Heir]

This game is just a wind up. Nothing else to say.

My striker, Piatek, has just won striker of the year despite missing endless 1v1s. It was just announced after I had another 0:0 because my team missed all of their chances. 

Everything that happens is a wind up. When you lose and the game asks you how well one of your players played. It's all one big wind up.

[ferrarinseb]

I often thought myself why the game has Instant result button in skins. But the state of FM is making me to hit that instead of Match. 

[FMLegend1983]

2 hours ago, sidslayer said:

It’s your tactics

Are you the new Dagenham Dave? 

[darthlemon]

I played some of the public beta when it first became available.

Got tired of conceding/scoring multiple set pieces in every single game.

Take some time off from FM.

Come back and concede from a corner within 20 mins of my first game back.

Rinse. Repeat.

 

 

[LOVEFMyeah]

21 hours ago, Nicenoise said:

How much time, i, beeing a customer, supposed to wait till you fix 1x1? 

Whom should i contact if i want a refund?

 

17 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

@iMan - Please don't post false information to a genuine question.

@Nicenoise - The latest statement from staff is that they're not looking to roll out an update to the beta patch, but instead a full patch, and that will be done when it is ready. Whilst there is usually a patch at the beginning of March after all of the transfers in the latest window have concluded (since some countries have an open window through to the end of February), SI have not said that there won't be a patch before then.

 

Hi,

It is now 03/02/2020 ant the game remains unplayable.

The game was released on 19/11/2019........

I want to be reimbursed quickly.

Certainly, i won't be waiting for the March patch to play.

Edited February 3, 2020 by LOVEFMyeah

[Tyburn]

1 hour ago, FMLegend1983 said:

Are you the new Dagenham Dave? 

It was a joke. 

[Kirariuk]

Hi guys, we are less than a month now from the March patch. is it possible to receive some kind of update if we can expect a pacht before the one in March ??? I think it would be useful to do it because until the final pacht in March we can release feedback and help you better in the final pacht. Like nail brock are several days that not from various announcements would be welcome if we were released some statement thanks.

[rdbayly]

My final thoughts on FM20 are this:

In my view, the direction in which the match engine has been taken is seriously damaging this franchise. Whether you consume tactical advice via these forums, streams, videos or guides; there is a truth to face about the football DNA that we are presented with. Irrespective of your tactical instructions:

• Passing is too direct
• Decisions are taken too quickly
• Dribbles are absurdly over-represented and successful
• AI teams remain too negative
• Central play remains virtually dead
• Defensive headers are weak and suicidal
• Chances from set pieces are too prevalent
• Goals from penalty box pinball and rebounds are too prevalent
• Goals from long range are too readily converted
• Big chance conversion remain appalling

I think this year, more than any other, FM20 does a particularly poor job of representing the inherent strengths and weaknesses of the two systems facing off against each other on match day. You would think that what unfolds in front of you would highlight one team exploiting certain tactical flaws in the other's set up (e.g. controlling or overloading space where a formation is weak). Instead we see a collection of (what feels like) disconnected highlights of set piece goals and 30 yard screamers. The whole experience feels divorced from the user's influence.

I feel that those who favour a more measured and precise style of play (that can operate in tight spaces) are immediately alienated by the above, seemingly, hard-coded player behaviour. FM21 will be the first edition of the game in years I will not pre-order. I cannot sit through these repetitive, illogically presented passages of play any more.

Loving FM17 though 

Edited February 3, 2020 by rdbayly

[esca]

Please consider an update for this public beta before the full update release, so that we as user/buyer can test and confirm that all the bugs reported have been fixed. 

[danstam]

When the loan manager accepts a loan bid, saying he feels it meets his valuation, what does this mean precisely? I'm assuming it means the team is of sufficient quality relative to the youngster. He seems to highly rate my youth as he just loaned out most of my U23 squad!