Dreambuilder Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) What are your experiences of taking your favourite formation (for example a great Knap 442) and then alter the roles to better suit the roles and strength of your players? Will the altered Knap tactic be ruined, or will it be even stronger from being better suited to my players strengths and roles? It feels like player quality is little more important than tactics. Giving this a try. Definitely raising my pulse alot more trying out something tactically myself for the first time.. When doing this I guess its very important to play a squad together and to max tactical familiarity in atleast like half a season before I can evaluate how good the tactic is working. Here I shamelesly took the Knap 19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFAFM20P97ALLCUPS53 (1st image) and adjusted the roles after my best players: (2nd image image. Thanks Knap!) Wish me luck, might need it... !!! Edited November 29, 2019 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I would suggest using FMT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) To test tactics I also use FMT, go on holiday and tick "Use current match tactics" and do not select a match plan. (leave it as default, unticked) I always test a tactic 2 seasons with Liverpool and 2 seasons with "Rupel boom" (predicted 14th in Belgium 3th division) It takes me no more than a good hour to have my test results... (and I abort the test earlier if I see something isn't working, during holidaying you can view the current league position of your team) Edited November 29, 2019 by DavyDepuydt1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazp1919 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I've just been doing this the last 6 games to good effect (may just be coincidence as only over 6 games) and won them all. Am using Knapps 451 but just changed roles to suit players over 2 different starting 11's. for example........ 1st 11 GK Lloris SK su RB Aarons WB at LB Rose WB at CB Sanchez BPD de CB Vertonghen BPD de DM Luis A de CM Fernandes MEZ at CM Ndombele AP at AMR Moura W at AML Son IW at ST Kane CF at 2nd 11 GK Lloris SK su RB Walker Peters WB at LB Davies WB at CB Foyth BPD de CB Dier BPD de DM Skipp DM de CM Alli MEZ at CM Zaniolo BBM sup AMR Lo Celso IW at AML Sessegnon W at ST Kane CF at I've not found a massive upturn in results, I had won the 6 games before i tried this anyway, but what it has done is have an effect on player ratings being higher and I am scoring more goals for it. I only have 6 league games left and champs league and FA cup fixtures but will keep trying this until the end of the season. Again, credit must go to knapp for his tactics, but i had too many players as square pegs in round holes. It seems round pegs in round holes does have a positive effect, for now at least. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Ye roles affects decisions IIRC, the better green role, the better decisions. Edited November 29, 2019 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Always considered a minor impact on decisions and attributes drive the positions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 The other aspect to test is training the roles in original tactic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 Lol first friendly game with completely untrained tactic familiarity went ridiculously well. They got a red in 2nd minute but still.. Again the tactic is thanks to Knap, I just changed the roles to suit the players best role.. Gonna try and see how long and well this can last into the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hliasp Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I Have super results by doing the same thing( give the best roles that fit my players) with the preset tactics.. for example with gegenpressing 4231 and 4141. Champions League winners with Olympiakos 3rd season... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hliasp said: I Have super results by doing the same thing( give the best roles that fit my players) with the preset tactics.. for example with gegenpressing 4231 and 4141. Champions League winners with Olympiakos 3rd season... Cool!! Really nice input, thanks! 2nd friendly game I'm now 3-0 in half time This is really fun and immersive, using the strengths of the players indeed! By preset, do you mean the game tactics or downloaded tactics? Edited November 29, 2019 by Dreambuilder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hliasp Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I Have super results by doing the same thing( give the best roles that fit my players) with the preset tactics.. for example with gegenpressing 4231 and 4141. Champions League winners with Olympiakos 3rd season... I meant the preset game tactics.. gegenpress, tiki taka etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazp1919 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 hours ago, dazp1919 said: I've just been doing this the last 6 games to good effect (may just be coincidence as only over 6 games) and won them all. Am using Knapps 451 but just changed roles to suit players over 2 different starting 11's. for example........ 1st 11 GK Lloris SK su RB Aarons WB at LB Rose WB at CB Sanchez BPD de CB Vertonghen BPD de DM Luis A de CM Fernandes MEZ at CM Ndombele AP at AMR Moura W at AML Son IW at ST Kane CF at 2nd 11 GK Lloris SK su RB Walker Peters WB at LB Davies WB at CB Foyth BPD de CB Dier BPD de DM Skipp DM de CM Alli MEZ at CM Zaniolo BBM sup AMR Lo Celso IW at AML Sessegnon W at ST Kane CF at I've not found a massive upturn in results, I had won the 6 games before i tried this anyway, but what it has done is have an effect on player ratings being higher and I am scoring more goals for it. I only have 6 league games left and champs league and FA cup fixtures but will keep trying this until the end of the season. Again, credit must go to knapp for his tactics, but i had too many players as square pegs in round holes. It seems round pegs in round holes does have a positive effect, for now at least. Annnnnnnnnddddddddd With this post I have completely jinxed myself!! 1 win in my last 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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