FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***

[kevhamster]

9 minutes ago, dimpster said:

Hi Kev!

I live in Spain now, so been trying to follow the thread and see who delivers here... (Had my eye on that Lenovo IdeaPad you recommend - but no delivery to Spain...)

How does this one look?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0877LFKR2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Cheers,

Paul

Very nice.  Decent price too.

I'd go for that.

[Junaid1999]

10 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

If the one at £600 is too much of a stretch, then this would be my next suggestion within the price range: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9085538

It'll process the game at a reasonable rate, and the integrated graphics, based on my own experience with the previous generation of the Ryzen 5 processor, manages the 3D match engine on FM21 at mostly medium settings.  Should also be able to run Minecraft as well (although again not at max settings).

Brilliant, thank you so much for your help! 

I think I’ll pay £600 and go for this one:

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html 

It definitely seems worth the price and I should be able to run FM on the highest settings. 

Many thanks for your help. 

 

[MrDelDante]

Could anyone tell me if my PC will be OK to run the game at a decent speed this year? I had FM20 and even with 1 league and a small database my performance speed was only 1 star. My 10 year old laptop ran it at a blistering pace but my graphics card was naff. Since then I've upgraded my drive to a SSD which has sped the PC up quite a bit.

AMD A6-6310 APU with AMD Radeon R4 Graphics 1.8ghz

8MB RAM

64 bit Windows 10

[MarcyBhoy22]

Last question Kev I promise, before I purchase this do you reckon out of all the laptops you have come across this would be the best I could get for around that money (give or take)?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/hp-pavillion-15-ec1009na-nvidia-gtx-1660-ti-16gb-15.6-fhd-amd-ryzen-7-4800h-gaming-laptop-lt-04y-hp.html

 

Cheers again

[kevhamster]

6 minutes ago, MrDelDante said:

Could anyone tell me if my PC will be OK to run the game at a decent speed this year? I had FM20 and even with 1 league and a small database my performance speed was only 1 star. My 10 year old laptop ran it at a blistering pace but my graphics card was naff. Since then I've upgraded my drive to a SSD which has sped the PC up quite a bit.

AMD A6-6310 APU with AMD Radeon R4 Graphics 1.8ghz

8MB RAM

64 bit Windows 10

Your issue with this computer is the processor.  It's very slow by current standards, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest it may not be great with the 3D graphics either,

FM21 should run a little faster than FM20 did, as feedback from many (and also based on my own experience), FM21 does seem to process quicker than FM20 did.  But you're not going to have a decent speed on a machine with this processor.

[kevhamster]

9 minutes ago, MarcyBhoy22 said:

Last question Kev I promise, before I purchase this do you reckon out of all the laptops you have come across this would be the best I could get for around that money (give or take)?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/hp-pavillion-15-ec1009na-nvidia-gtx-1660-ti-16gb-15.6-fhd-amd-ryzen-7-4800h-gaming-laptop-lt-04y-hp.html

 

Cheers again

Looking around, I don't think you'll currently find it any cheaper.  Excellent spec too.

[Viddek]

Hello everybody,

 

I only use the FM in 2D modus. 

 

Currently, I'm thinking about the new Apple MacBooks with M1 and 16GB Ram. Do you think that it will run? 

[Chris_FM]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

You honestly won't get anything worthwhile at under £400.00.

The best I can currently find under £500.00 is this: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9085538 (see my post above )

Thanks

[kevhamster]

7 minutes ago, Viddek said:

Hello everybody,

 

I only use the FM in 2D modus. 

 

Currently, I'm thinking about the new Apple MacBooks with M1 and 16GB Ram. Do you think that it will run? 

Impossible to say at the moment as so little is known about them.  It's a new chip architecture, so performance and software compatibility is a complete unknown right now.

[MrDelDante]

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Your issue with this computer is the processor.  It's very slow by current standards, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest it may not be great with the 3D graphics either,

FM21 should run a little faster than FM20 did, as feedback from many (and also based on my own experience), FM21 does seem to process quicker than FM20 did.  But you're not going to have a decent speed on a machine with this processor.

I only play it in 2D anyway so graphics aren't really an issue, just the speed when you crack on through the weeks. Takes a good while to progress and load the data.

[kevhamster]

10 minutes ago, MrDelDante said:

I only play it in 2D anyway so graphics aren't really an issue, just the speed when you crack on through the weeks. Takes a good while to progress and load the data.

FM21 does appear to be quicker, but your processor is from 2014 and was classed as an entry-level model back then.  So, regardless of 3D or 2D, it's going to take a while to progress through the weeks in-game.

[Shanaway1]

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/a315-42-4/ Hi @Smurf what do you think of this one?

[kevhamster]

24 minutes ago, Shanaway1 said:

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/a315-42-4/ Hi @Smurf what do you think of this one?

For the price, it's OK. Won't be amazingly quick, but it'll run the game. 

You'll probably need to set the 3D graphics to medium and fiddle with various settings from there to get a smooth performance during matches. 

[Shanaway1]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

For the price, it's OK. Won't be amazingly quick, but it'll run the game. 

You'll probably need to set the 3D graphics to medium and fiddle with various settings from there to get a smooth performance during matches. 

Thanks for getting back to me so quick. Is there anything better on the site you can see for under £400? The one you had recommended me previously is sold out

[kevhamster]

18 minutes ago, Shanaway1 said:

Thanks for getting back to me so quick. Is there anything better on the site you can see for under £400? The one you had recommended me previously is sold out

 

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/da0600sa/ - this one looks the strongest bet to me under £400.00.  The main drawback is the graphical capabilities of the machine, meaning you'll need to have the graphic settings quite low if you're playing in 3D.  CPU should process between matches quite reasonably though.

There isn't a lot to recommend in the sub-£400 category being entirely honest.  Nothing in that price range is going to be brilliant.

 

 

[Shanaway1]

35 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

 

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/da0600sa/ - this one looks the strongest bet to me under £400.00.  The main drawback is the graphical capabilities of the machine, meaning you'll need to have the graphic settings quite low if you're playing in 3D.  CPU should process between matches quite reasonably though.

There isn't a lot to recommend in the sub-£400 category being entirely honest.  Nothing in that price range is going to be brilliant.

 

 

Thanks. I know it's not going to be the best laptop but it will do me. Just ordered it.

[kserasera]

19 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Yes, excellent spec.

hi Kev, for the hp pavilion  I ended up going for the 8gb ram instead of 16 gb ram. Is this likely to be an issue or shouldnt be a problem still ? At the most i think i would just be listening to music while playing fm on the machine. 

Edited November 14, 2020 by kserasera

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, kserasera said:

hi Kev, for the hp pavilion  I ended up going for the 8gb ram instead of 16 gb ram. Is this likely to be an issue or shouldnt be a problem still ? At the most i think i would just be listening to music while playing fm on the machine. 

Shouldn't really cause any issues. 

[SCG88]

hi guys i wonder if any of you can help me ou here.

ive been buying the game forever, since the CM years, but im afraid this new minimum specs will have me pass this year as i cant afford a new laptop right now.

i have an HP Pavilion with  an i5core 1.7ghz and 4 ram with around 300g free space. Graphics is decent, an NVIDIA GForce820 M and its still the old windows 8.1.

Last years game was not running that fast but it went well if i used a medium database and i dont know if the change for 4ram minimum will kill the experience for me and if its worth the buy. Latter in 2021 i would probably add more ram has the laptop can expand up to 16gs for what i saw but any of you have any idea or a similar experience with the beta with a laptop of 4g ram? Is it working fine for you or it´s just unplayable?

Thanks so much for the feedback!

[kevhamster]

29 minutes ago, SCG88 said:

hi guys i wonder if any of you can help me ou here.

ive been buying the game forever, since the CM years, but im afraid this new minimum specs will have me pass this year as i cant afford a new laptop right now.

i have an HP Pavilion with  an i5core 1.7ghz and 4 ram with around 300g free space. Graphics is decent, an NVIDIA GForce820 M and its still the old windows 8.1.

Last years game was not running that fast but it went well if i used a medium database and i dont know if the change for 4ram minimum will kill the experience for me and if its worth the buy. Latter in 2021 i would probably add more ram has the laptop can expand up to 16gs for what i saw but any of you have any idea or a similar experience with the beta with a laptop of 4g ram? Is it working fine for you or it´s just unplayable?

Thanks so much for the feedback!

The bottleneck is more likely to be your CPU than your RAM. 

My suggestion would be to download the demo once it's out and see how it runs on your computer. 

[SCG88]

so they are still dropping out the demo this year? 

Didn´t know that. That will be helpful yeah. The cpu is the same of last year and i saw few changes on the min specs on that subject. It wasn´t as smooth as i would like but i know im not up to date so i could live with that. its the change of min spec with the ram that was mostly worrying me.

[Chris_FM]

22 hours ago, kevhamster said:

You honestly won't get anything worthwhile at under £400.00.

The best I can currently find under £500.00 is this: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9085538 (see my post above )

Hi Kev. Sorry to trouble you again. I was wondering, if I went up from the £500 budget, would I find anything significantly worth paying the extra for?

I don't want to spend fortunes, but equally, I don't want to go in with a strict budget and miss out on something worth paying for. Like I said, no idea what price bracket I should be looking at, but don't mind going up a bit for something really good value... if that makes sense! Cheers.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, SCG88 said:

so they are still dropping out the demo this year? 

Didn´t know that. That will be helpful yeah. The cpu is the same of last year and i saw few changes on the min specs on that subject. It wasn´t as smooth as i would like but i know im not up to date so i could live with that. its the change of min spec with the ram that was mostly worrying me.

Yep, there will be a demo out around the same time as the full retail release.  Apparently can be a day or 2 after, but I'd definitely recommend trying it before buying, especially if you're not in a position to buy a new computer.

[kevhamster]

49 minutes ago, Chris_FM said:

Hi Kev. Sorry to trouble you again. I was wondering, if I went up from the £500 budget, would I find anything significantly worth paying the extra for?

I don't want to spend fortunes, but equally, I don't want to go in with a strict budget and miss out on something worth paying for. Like I said, no idea what price bracket I should be looking at, but don't mind going up a bit for something really good value... if that makes sense! Cheers.

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html is a cracking deal at the moment.  Excellent CPU and a dedicated graphics card which will enable the 3D graphics at max settings.  It's £599.99, but definitely a worthy upgrade over the ones priced under £500.

 

[Dan2610]

My 7 year old HP Pavilion is struggling with the game so maybe time for an upgrade. It’s never let me down so I’m leaning towards HP again, and found this one. Opinions? Any other better suggestions for a similar price range.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14s-dq1505sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10203392-pdt.html

[kevhamster]

6 minutes ago, Dan2610 said:

My 7 year old HP Pavilion is struggling with the game so maybe time for an upgrade. It’s never let me down so I’m leaning towards HP again, and found this one. Opinions? Any other better suggestions for a similar price range.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14s-dq1505sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10203392-pdt.html

I'd avoid that. The base clock speed is below the minimum on the FM system requirements.  That's not to say the game won't work, but the CPU will get throttled under load so you could well end up with less than ideal performance. 

What else will you be using the computer for? 

[Dan2610]

9 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

I'd avoid that. The base clock speed is below the minimum on the FM system requirements.  That's not to say the game won't work, but the CPU will get throttled under load so you could well end up with less than ideal performance. 

What else will you be using the computer for? 

Not much else other than FM and general internet usage. The laptop won’t be required for work purposes.

[kevhamster]

2 minutes ago, Dan2610 said:

Not much else other than FM and general internet usage. The laptop won’t be required for work purposes.

OK, and do you play in 2D or 3D?

Also, will you only consider HP laptops or are you open to others as well? 

[Dan2610]

4 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

OK, and do you play in 2D or 3D?

Also, will you only consider HP laptops or are you open to others as well? 

I’ve only ever played 2D and I have replays in 3D. I’m open for any really, just looking for the best value for money for around £600.

 

[kevhamster]

8 minutes ago, Dan2610 said:

I’ve only ever played 2D and I have replays in 3D. I’m open for any really, just looking for the best value for money for around £600.

 

I'd go for this one if you're not bothered too much about 3D - it will still handle the 3D replays with no issue (probably not at max settings, but medium is likely).

Best CPU at the price point at the moment (that I can find at least): https://www.box.co.uk/1E6Z9EAABU-HP-14s-fq0000na_2956544.html

[Dan2610]

4 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

I'd go for this one if you're not bothered too much about 3D - it will still handle the 3D replays with no issue (probably not at max settings, but medium is likely).

Best CPU at the price point at the moment (that I can find at least): https://www.box.co.uk/1E6Z9EAABU-HP-14s-fq0000na_2956544.html

Thanks very much for your help!

[Dan2610]

6 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

I'd go for this one if you're not bothered too much about 3D - it will still handle the 3D replays with no issue (probably not at max settings, but medium is likely).

Best CPU at the price point at the moment (that I can find at least): https://www.box.co.uk/1E6Z9EAABU-HP-14s-fq0000na_2956544.html

Out of interest if I did want to move to 3D, is there anything else you’d suggest?

[DCBeast]

Hi guys,

I am all set to purchase a 14" laptop and have narrowed it down to these two options.

https://www.did.ie/asus-14-amd-ryzen-7-16gb-512gb-laptop-eclipse-gray-ga401iuhe001t-ga401iuhe001t-prd?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRqbpP8AX5759iHbEJ_Omm9suJB0YDZXNc-Z7nhnhVbbe6yt8CbvKsYaAjEpEALw_wcB#fo_c=1898&fo_k=ea1c61729f24b1bf192cc8f0f7d1f29e&fo_s=gplaie

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-rtx-2060-1-tb-ssd-10205673-pdt.html

I plan to use it mainly for FM gaming, some programming, and web browsing.

Which one would you recommend?

I would prefer not too spend €2000+ on a laptop but if it is worth the extra €500+ then I would go through with it. Or is it necessary?

[kevhamster]

3 minutes ago, Dan2610 said:

Out of interest if I did want to move to 3D, is there anything else you’d suggest?

This: https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html

CPU isn't quite as strong (although still very good), but the dedicated GTX 1050 graphics card will ensure smooth performance of the 3D graphics.

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, DCBeast said:

Hi guys,

I am all set to purchase a 14" laptop and have narrowed it down to these two options.

https://www.did.ie/asus-14-amd-ryzen-7-16gb-512gb-laptop-eclipse-gray-ga401iuhe001t-ga401iuhe001t-prd?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRqbpP8AX5759iHbEJ_Omm9suJB0YDZXNc-Z7nhnhVbbe6yt8CbvKsYaAjEpEALw_wcB#fo_c=1898&fo_k=ea1c61729f24b1bf192cc8f0f7d1f29e&fo_s=gplaie

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-rtx-2060-1-tb-ssd-10205673-pdt.html

I plan to use it mainly for FM gaming, some programming, and web browsing.

Which one would you recommend?

I would prefer not too spend €2000+ on a laptop but if it is worth the extra €500+ then I would go through with it. Or is it necessary?

Before I give my suggestion, any reason for going for a 14" model?

[DCBeast]

2 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Before I give my suggestion, any reason for going for a 14" model?

Just a personal preference really.

I do realise you pay more for the compatibility of a 14" but I've used15.6" screens for years and I feel they're too bulky and would prefer a 14".

 

[Smurf]

18 minutes ago, DCBeast said:

Hi guys,

I am all set to purchase a 14" laptop and have narrowed it down to these two options.

https://www.did.ie/asus-14-amd-ryzen-7-16gb-512gb-laptop-eclipse-gray-ga401iuhe001t-ga401iuhe001t-prd?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRqbpP8AX5759iHbEJ_Omm9suJB0YDZXNc-Z7nhnhVbbe6yt8CbvKsYaAjEpEALw_wcB#fo_c=1898&fo_k=ea1c61729f24b1bf192cc8f0f7d1f29e&fo_s=gplaie

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-rtx-2060-1-tb-ssd-10205673-pdt.html

I plan to use it mainly for FM gaming, some programming, and web browsing.

Which one would you recommend?

I would prefer not too spend €2000+ on a laptop but if it is worth the extra €500+ then I would go through with it. Or is it necessary?

This would be better 

Price: €1,439.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/FusionIV-pro-15/MUpvaXEYv5/

*this is also a thin and light laptop*

 

 

Edited November 14, 2020 by Smurf

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, DCBeast said:

Just a personal preference really.

I do realise you pay more for the compatibility of a 14" but I've used15.6" screens for years and I feel they're too bulky and would prefer a 14".

 

Fair enough.

Both have excellent processors - the one in Currys is a bit stronger, but they both rank closely on the notebookcheck benchmarks.

So, the main differences, and what's pushing the price up on the one in Currys, is the fact that one has a 1TB SSD and a dedicated graphics card.

I personally would be loathe to spend the price for the first one for a machine without a dedicated graphics card, but as you've alluded to either way you're paying quite a premium for having a 14" model.  

You could get the roughly the same processor Ryzen 7 processor with a graphics card, 16GB RAM and a 1TB HDD at PC Specialist for under 1300.

[Smurf]

15 minutes ago, DCBeast said:

Just a personal preference really.

I do realise you pay more for the compatibility of a 14" but I've used15.6" screens for years and I feel they're too bulky and would prefer a 14".

 

 

4 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Fair enough.

Both have excellent processors - the one in Currys is a bit stronger, but they both rank closely on the notebookcheck benchmarks.

So, the main differences, and what's pushing the price up on the one in Currys, is the fact that one has a 1TB SSD and a dedicated graphics card.

I personally would be loathe to spend the price for the first one for a machine without a dedicated graphics card, but as you've alluded to either way you're paying quite a premium for having a 14" model.  

You could get the roughly the same processor Ryzen 7 processor with a graphics card, 16GB RAM and a 1TB HDD at PC Specialist for under 1300.

That Currys one is very good - go for that!

Only other one perhaps https://www.box.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-Zephyrus-G14-GA401IV-HA120T-(LE_2894744.html 

Works out about the same price - but I'd go with the currys one in case of any issues/returns etc. would be easier.

[Red Horizon]

If I bought of a pc/tower (I already have a monitor, keyboard mouse) with around £650 what would you suggest getting?

[Smurf]

15 minutes ago, BusbyFergieJose said:

If I bought of a pc/tower (I already have a monitor, keyboard mouse) with around £650 what would you suggest getting?

Something like this 

Price: £649.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/dxsvnvuYmZ/

[Viddek]

On 13/11/2020 at 15:51, kevhamster said:

Impossible to say at the moment as so little is known about them.  It's a new chip architecture, so performance and software compatibility is a complete unknown right now.

Could you propose me a MacBook (not older than 2019) that you can recommend for Football Manager for the next years? 

 

Is this good enough? https://www.amazon.de/Apple-MacBook-16-GB-512-GB-Keyboard/dp/B08833J7GD/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=macbook+16gb&qid=1605372502&sr=8-3

 

Or do you have other recommendations?

 

 

[kevhamster]

4 minutes ago, Viddek said:

Could you propose me a MacBook (not older than 2019) that you can recommend for Football Manager for the next years? 

 

Is this good enough? https://www.amazon.de/Apple-MacBook-16-GB-512-GB-Keyboard/dp/B08833J7GD/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=macbook+16gb&qid=1605372502&sr=8-3

 

Or do you have other recommendations?

 

 

Well, my first recommendation is to forget MacBooks.... You're paying nearly 2,000 euros for a machine with no dedicated graphics card.  These machines are massively overpriced for the sort of hardware they're packing.  And, I have no idea how good the integrated graphics on these chips are, but Intel's record in this area is not exactly great.  The CPU itself meets the spec for FM21 though.

I mean, this is probably the best MacBook you can get currently.  But it would still be my personal recommendation to look at a Windows gaming laptop if you're thinking of dropping that kind of cash.

 

[Chris_FM]

4 hours ago, kevhamster said:

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html is a cracking deal at the moment.  Excellent CPU and a dedicated graphics card which will enable the 3D graphics at max settings.  It's £599.99, but definitely a worthy upgrade over the ones priced under £500.

 

Perfect, thanks Kev - that's exactly why I asked. Cheers, I'll take a look!

[Defensive]

I want to buy a new PC which i will mainly use to play FM21.

It will be with integrated graphics card Intel 630 or with a Geforce 1650.

Im a little worried about stuttering in the match engine or having to slow it down to very low settings because i am no expert in this. Could someone give me some advice if there is actually a great difference in these two or if both are okay? The first one obviously is cheaper but i dont want to regret it if i decide to buy the one with integrated Intel graphics card.

 

I play 3D but dont need necessarily 3D with highest option, medium would be okay, just not stuttering.

[kevhamster]

14 minutes ago, Defensive said:

I want to buy a new PC which i will mainly use to play FM21.

It will be with integrated graphics card Intel 630 or with a Geforce 1650.

Im a little worried about stuttering in the match engine or having to slow it down to very low settings because i am no expert in this. Could someone give me some advice if there is actually a great difference in these two or if both are okay? The first one obviously is cheaper but i dont want to regret it if i decide to buy the one with integrated Intel graphics card.

 

I play 3D but dont need necessarily 3D with highest option, medium would be okay, just not stuttering.

A geforce 1650 will be a huge upgrade over Intel integrated graphics. With the Integrated option, you are likely to need to restrict the settings to low. 

Let me know whether you were looking at desktop or laptop, and what your budget is and I'll see what I can find. 

Would also be good to mention what else you intend to do with the PC and any other games you'll be wanting to play, if any. 

Edited November 14, 2020 by kevhamster

[Viddek]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

Well, my first recommendation is to forget MacBooks.... You're paying nearly 2,000 euros for a machine with no dedicated graphics card.  These machines are massively overpriced for the sort of hardware they're packing.  And, I have no idea how good the integrated graphics on these chips are, but Intel's record in this area is not exactly great.  The CPU itself meets the spec for FM21 though.

I mean, this is probably the best MacBook you can get currently.  But it would still be my personal recommendation to look at a Windows gaming laptop if you're thinking of dropping that kind of cash.

 

The alternative for me is a Surface Book, because I hate noise, when I'm working or playing games. However, currently I'm using a Microsoft Surface Book 1st Gen with Geforce GTX 965M and 8GB Ram, but sometimes it lags...

[kevhamster]

17 minutes ago, Viddek said:

The alternative for me is a Surface Book, because I hate noise, when I'm working or playing games. However, currently I'm using a Microsoft Surface Book 1st Gen with Geforce GTX 965M and 8GB Ram, but sometimes it lags...

Well, I'll be honest I'm not sure what is going to be quieter than other models. Noise is almost unavoidable with computers due to the need to expel air to keep the temperature down, unless you're going for a desktop with liquid cooling. 

[Azrael]

Can someone suggest a decent laptop? My budget is around 1.5K euros

Thanks.

[kevhamster]

14 minutes ago, Azrael said:

Can someone suggest a decent laptop? My budget is around 1.5K euros

Thanks.

What else aside from FM will you be doing with it?